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Covert Human Intelligence Sources (Criminal Conduct) Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Tuesday, 1 December 2020, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage second day. Clause 1 under consideration.

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Reference

808 cc627-677 

Session

2019-21

Department

Home Office

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Procedure

Hybrid proceedings

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber
Legislative Scrutiny: Covert Human Intelligence Sources (Criminal Conduct) Bill. Human Rights Joint Committee tenth report with formal minutes.
Wednesday, 4 November 2020
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
House of Commons
Covert Human Intelligence Sources (Criminal Conduct) Bill 2019-21. Brought from the Commons.
Monday, 19 October 2020
Bills
House of Lords
Covert Human Intelligence Sources (Criminal Conduct) Bill. Constitution Committee (HL) nineteenth report.
Thursday, 19 November 2020
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2021-0074
Thursday, 28 January 2021
Deposited papers
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Baroness Whitaker | 808 cc627-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in speaking to Amendment 77, I should first declare that my daughter wrote on this subj...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 808 cc628-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Whitaker. I agree with everything s...


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Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 808 c629 (Link to this contribution)

I will speak to Amendments 12 and 61 in my name and that of the noble Baroness, Lady Kennedy of T...

Baroness Fookes | 808 c630 (Link to this contribution)

I understand that the noble Lord, Lord Judd, has withdrawn, so the next speaker will be the noble...

Lord Naseby | 808 c630 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in many ways, subsection (5) of Clause 1 could well be the most important part of the B...

Lord Blunkett | 808 cc630-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pity, although entirely understandable, that we had to break the debate last we...

Lord Thomas of Cwmgiedd | 808 cc632-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a great privilege to follow the noble Lord, Lord Blunkett, who has brought to bea...

Lord King of Bridgwater | 808 cc633-4 (Link to this contribution)

I am very pleased to follow the noble and learned Lord, who ended by saying that he wanted to ens...

Lord Campbell-Savours | 808 cc634-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will confine my remarks on this Bill to the thrust of Amendment 46. I declare an inte...

Lord Bach | 808 cc636-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a privilege to follow my noble friend Lord Campbell-Savours, whose expertise in t...

Lord Janvrin | 808 cc637-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the case for strengthening oversight as put forward in Amendments 46 and 73, ...

Lord Morris of Aberavon | 808 cc639-640 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 14. I was sorry that I was unable to attend Second Reading. I was s...

Lord Rooker | 808 cc640-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too regret the split in this debate and certainly hope that it does not happen again....

Baroness Chakrabarti | 808 cc641-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow so many distinguished Members of your Lordships’ House...

Lord Paddick | 808 cc643-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a lengthy and complex debate, and I blame the noble Lord, Lord Anderson o...

Lord Rosser | 808 cc644-8 (Link to this contribution)

Amendments 14 and 75 in my name and the name of my noble friend Lord Kennedy of Southwark provide...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 808 cc648-651 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords for contributing to what has been quite a lengthy debate on thi...

Lord Haskel | 808 c651 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have had six requests to speak after the Minister, from the noble Lords, Lord Hain an...

Lord Hain | 808 cc651-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for her typically courteous and thoughtful response, particularly ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 808 c652 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord knows how I operate, so he can be absolutely sure I would be happy to meet noble L...

Lord Blunkett | 808 c652 (Link to this contribution)

In the light of the answer the Minister has given, including her willingness to talk with my nobl...

Baroness Manningham-Buller | 808 c652 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am not going to repeat what I said in my speech, but I want to make three small point...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 808 c653 (Link to this contribution)

Try as I might, that was very difficult to hear. I think that the noble Baroness—I know that she ...

Lord Marlesford | 808 c653 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to make a point on Amendment 77 on journalistic sources, in the name of the nobl...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 808 c653 (Link to this contribution)

I think the only response to that is to thank my noble friend for taking the time to explain it t...

Baroness Whitaker | 808 c653 (Link to this contribution)

In thanking the noble Baroness for her characteristically thoughtful response and her offer to me...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 808 c653 (Link to this contribution)

I am very happy either to write to the noble Baroness and outline what I said in more detail or m...

Lord Paddick | 808 cc653-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for what she has said. I accept what she and the noble Baroness, L...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 808 c654 (Link to this contribution)

If I understand the point from the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, that the CHIS is authorised to commi...

Lord Dubs | 808 cc654-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for the way in which the Minister so helpfully explained the Government’s...

Lord Haskel | 808 c655 (Link to this contribution)

We now come to the group beginning with Amendment 16. I remind noble Lords that anyone wishing to...

Baroness Hamwee | 808 c655 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

16: Clause 1, page 2, line 16, leave out “the person believe...

Baroness Hamwee | 808 cc656-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend Lord Paddick and I have Amendments 16, 18, 20, 32 and 33 in this group,...

Lord Anderson of Ipswich | 808 cc657-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness for at least part of her journey, as she ...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 808 c658 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, and the noble Lord, Lord An...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 808 c659 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am pleased to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Jones of Moulsecoomb. I support and wil...

Lord Haskel | 808 c659 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Judd, has withdrawn so I call the noble Lord, Lord Thomas of Gresford.

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 808 cc659-660 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the first issue to consider is the identity of the person who grants the prior authoris...

Lord Haskel | 808 c660 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Cormack, and the noble and learned Lord, Lord Morris of Aberavon, have withd...

Lord Mann | 808 cc660-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to a number of these amendments simultaneously, using a different word to ...

Lord Thomas of Cwmgiedd | 808 c661 (Link to this contribution)

I can be very brief in support of Amendment 17 and its Scottish equivalent. The intention appears...

Lord Naseby | 808 c661 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I listened to my noble friend opposite and his detailed, and quite persuasive, contribu...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 808 cc661-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, during this sitting of the Committee, I have just discovered about the passing of Lord ...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 808 cc665-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have looked carefully at the amendments in this group. Amendment 16 moved by the nobl...

Lord Stewart of Dirleton | 808 cc667-670 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I may begin by discussing the question of the test of necessity and proportiona...

Baroness Fookes | 808 c670 (Link to this contribution)

I have received two requests to speak after the Minister, from the noble Lord, Lord Anderson of I...

Lord Anderson of Ipswich | 808 c670 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for his courteous and measured response, but can I press ...

Lord Stewart of Dirleton | 808 c671 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord for his supplementary question. I apologise for having ...

Baroness Fookes | 808 c671 (Link to this contribution)

I am not sure we want exchanges in this manner. Minister, are you complete or are you continuing?...

Lord Stewart of Dirleton | 808 c671 (Link to this contribution)

With your leave, I was about to indicate that I think it better in the circumstances—and where th...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 808 cc671-2 (Link to this contribution)

I want to make just a couple of points. I do not accept the noble and learned Lord’s point that, ...

Lord Stewart of Dirleton | 808 c672 (Link to this contribution)

I am obliged to the noble Lord for that final submission. We do, I acknowledge, need to address t...

Baroness Hamwee | 808 cc672-3 (Link to this contribution)

My noble friend Lord Paddick has been using his experience of the past—experience is, by definiti...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 808 c673 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we need to halt our proceedings before too long so that we can move on to the coronavir...

Baroness Fookes | 808 c673 (Link to this contribution)

We now come to the group beginning with Amendment 19A. I remind noble Lords that anyone wishing t...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 808 c673 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb

19A: Clause 1, page 2, leave out lines 22 and ...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 808 cc673-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have written a very long speech, so I hope I will not hold people up for too long.

Baroness Fookes | 808 c674 (Link to this contribution)

I understand that the noble Baroness, Lady McIntosh, has withdrawn, so I now call the noble Lord,...

Lord Naseby | 808 c674 (Link to this contribution)

I have two short comments. First, Amendment 21 sounds wonderful on the surface, but who will dete...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 808 c674 (Link to this contribution)

To be short, my Lords, I agree with the noble Baroness, Lady Jones. Matters as grave as criminal ...

Baroness Hamwee | 808 cc674-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am afraid that we have a number of amendments in this group. I have quite a lot of sy...

Lord Rosser | 808 cc675-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendments in this group would variously remove the power for the Secretary of Stat...

Lord Stewart of Dirleton | 808 c676 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, turning first to the order-making powers, addressed first by the noble Baroness, Lady J...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 808 cc676-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have contributed to this debate, even those who did not agr...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 808 c677 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to noble Lords for their assistance.

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