Trade Bill
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Thursday, 28 February 2019
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My Lords, this House has debated many issues during the passage of the Trade Bill, none more impo...
My Lords, first, I thank the Minister for her efforts to meet the requirements of the Motion in t...
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My Lords, like the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson, we welcome the Minister’s comments from the Dispat...
My Lords, as one of those who supported the amendment of the noble Baroness, Lady Smith, I thank ...
My Lords, with the indulgence of the House I should like to welcome the start of Report. A number...
I would like to ask one question of the Minister. I welcome the White Paper; it is full of commit...
As the noble Lord will be aware, the Government’s aim is to achieve a deal. As this House will al...
I understand that that is the Government’s aim, but it is also the case that the Government have ...
I understand the point that the noble Lord is making. As we have always said, we will seek to bal...
Before my noble friend sits down, I draw the attention of the House to Amendment 10, in my name a...
I thank my noble friend for his clarification. That is indeed true but I think he will also accep...
My noble friend will be aware that the Secretary of State for Agriculture promised, at the NFU Co...
I hope I have addressed that. Should no deal appear to be what is happening, they will be publish...
Moved by
Baroness Fairhead
1: Clause 1, page 2, line 13, after “direct” insert “princ...
My Lords, as this amendment touches on the GPA, I inform the House that the UK has formally recei...
My Lords, perhaps there is a report from the Constitution Committee that would answer the questio...
My Lords, the concept of retained direct principal EU legislation is that of EU legislation that ...
Moved by
Baroness Fairhead
2: Clause 2, page 2, line 41, after “direct” insert “princ...
Moved by
Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb
3: Clause 2, page 2, line 47, at end insert—
My Lords, I will also speak in support of Amendment 4, which I have put my name to.
I thank...
My Lords, I have put my name to Amendments 3 and 4 and speak in support of the noble Baroness, La...
My Lords, surely the point is that the Bill relates only to agreements in place before exit day. ...
The noble Lord is clearly prescient, because I am just about to cover the very point he raises. A...
I am delighted to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Henig, and thank her, the noble Baroness, Lady ...
My Lords, we now know for a fact that only a tiny fraction of those rolled-over trade agreements ...
I am grateful to the noble Lord for pointing out the distinction between whether chlorine washing...
It is a shame that processes do not allow interventions on interventions. When have I said that t...
I apologise and withdraw in that case.
I am grateful for that. The point I am making is that the EU, with full UK support, has had a con...
What else does the noble Lord have in mind in proposed new subsection (5B) when he uses the expre...
As the noble Lord will know, we have engaged in a number of legislative standards across all the ...
My Lords, we have had a very good debate on an important and long-lasting topic which we need to ...
My Lords, I appreciate the attention that this House has paid to the vitally important issue of s...
I have been looking at the continuity agreement reached with the Faroe Islands. I understand that...
My Lords, as I tried to explain, the Motions laid by the noble Lord, Lord Purvis, will be dealt w...
I may be able to help the noble Baroness. I am grateful for the response from the Government Whip...
My Lords, I thank the Minister for her response and her promise to bring this back at Third Readi...
Moved by
Lord Judge
3A: Clause 2, page 2, line 47, at end insert—
“( ) Regulati...
My Lords, this amendment has very little to do with trade as such, but it raises a constitutional...
My Lords, if the noble and learned Lord, Lord Judge, thought that his thinking was inadequate com...
My Lords, I have added my name to this amendment because I share the concern expressed by the nob...
My Lords, we should be very grateful to the Constitution Committee for drawing our attention to t...
My Lords, I do not need to add to the masterful laying out of the reasons for the amendment by th...
My Lords, I offer a footnote in support of noble and learned Lords and the points just made. It s...
My Lords, I suppose I ought to take some part in this discussion. I hope to do so briefly, becaus...
My Lords, I thank the noble and learned Lord, Lord Judge, and the noble Lords, Lord Pannick and L...
I am very grateful to the noble Baroness. Under the Pepper v Hart principle, what matters is not ...
I am happy to confirm that that is the case.
Can I press my noble friend a little further? Why does she not simply arrange for Amendment 3A to...
My Lords, there is a genuine difference of legal opinion here. My proposal is that we reflect on ...
I apologise for interrupting at this stage, but is my noble friend prepared to say on the record ...
I am unable to make that commitment.
May I respectfully ask what, in that case, would be the purpose of the meeting with the Minister ...
My understanding is that we have a clear legal position which is strongly believed, and the meeti...
If we can reach a mutual agreement on it, it is at least possible that the Government may decide ...
There will be other opportunities; perhaps we could have a meeting before the second day on Repor...
Provided it is understood that the resolution of this issue will abide or at least wait for a mee...
I have heard a very well-argued case—the first time I have heard the impact of that case. I can c...
I suggest that this matter cannot be brought back on the second day, because this is an amendment...
My Lords, we are in a very similar situation to where we were in an earlier debate. Clearly there...
I thank the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson, and I agree with that position.
My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson. I think that calling for a Division at...
Moved by
Baroness Henig
5: Clause 3, page 3, line 43, at end insert—
“(5A) A Mi...
My Lords, I hope that my amendment will prove a little more straightforward than the one we have ...
I am most grateful to my noble friend for giving way. I know that she is an expert in the subject...
I absolutely agree. That is precisely my concern: that there is an effective scrutiny process in ...
My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Henig, for tabling Amendment 5. It gives the House an ...
Before the Minister finishes, I do not think that she answered my noble friend’s question about c...
My Lords, the engagement we have with civic society, businesses and trade unions will be critical...
I have listened carefully to what the Minister said. She talked about a “running commentary”, and...
Moved by
Baroness Fairhead
6: After Clause 5, insert the following new Clause—
...
My Lords, this group includes Amendments 6 and 7. With the indulgence of the House, I shall speak...
Moved by
Baroness Neville-Rolfe
7: After Clause 5, leave out subsection (1)(b)
My Lords, I thank my noble friend the Minister for a useful meeting, and for responding to my ame...
My Lords, in Committee there were a number of amendments, including one in my name, which sought ...
I declare an interest as the UK co-chair of the UK-Japan 21st Century Group. My understanding of ...
That is helpful. However, my question to the Government remains as to what the status of the Bill...
My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lady Neville-Rolfe for Amendment 7, which brings reporting on f...
From my experience of the Scottish Parliament, there is nothing to prevent any UK Government subm...
That is a helpful interruption, but we would probably like to have a more formal process for hand...
I thank my noble friend for her very helpful assurances and have pleasure in withdrawing my amend...
Moved by
Baroness McIntosh of Pickering
8: After Clause 5, insert the following new C...
My Lords, as I mentioned earlier, since Committee the Government have published the very helpful ...
I emphasise how important this issue is. From my experience, the UK has arguably the finest legal...
My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lady McIntosh for presenting this amendment and for giving us t...
My Lords, I am most grateful to my noble friend for such a comprehensive response. I am sure some...
Moved by
Lord Lansley
9: After Clause 5, insert the following new Clause—
“Pref...
I am glad to have the opportunity to speak to Amendment 9 in my name and that of the noble Lord, ...
I rise briefly to support the amendment in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Lansley, which I have...
I thank the noble Lords, Lord Lansley and Lord Stevenson, for moving the amendment standing in th...
I am grateful to my noble friend the Minister and indeed to the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson, for t...
Moved by
Lord Lansley
10: After Clause 5, insert the following new Clause—
“The...
Amendment 10 stands in my name and that of the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson. In Committee, we did n...
I have a private joke with the former Minister, the noble Baroness, Lady Neville-Rolfe, that ther...
I thank my noble friend for moving the amendment. The noble Lord is right: my noble friend has ra...
I am grateful to my noble friend, and to the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson of Balmacara. This debate...
Moved by
Lord Lea of Crondall
11: After Clause 5, insert the following new Clause—
My Lords, last summer the House supported a proposition along the lines of retaining our membersh...
My Lords, the House has carried an amendment such as this before and has done so overwhelmingly. ...
My Lords, to follow what the noble Lord, Lord Monks, said, I was one of the noble Lords who led o...
My Lords, although the key point was made by the noble Lord, Lord Monks, that this might seem a l...
My Lords, I am conscious of the time, but I also want to ensure that noble Lords have an opportun...
My Lords, I thank the Minister for that reply. In fact, he did not answer all the questions on 4 ...
Moved by
Lord Stevenson of Balmacara
12: After Clause 5, insert the following new Cla...
My Lords, after that brief pause for dramatic effect, we move on quickly. We have already begun t...
My Lords, this amendment is in the names of the noble Lords, Lord Stevenson and Lord Purvis, and ...
My Lords, I am very grateful to the noble Lords, Lord Hannay and Lord Stevenson, for working coll...
My Lords, I rise briefly simply to explain why I do not feel I can support the proposed new claus...
I thoroughly agree with my noble friend Lord Hailsham in his argument. I will add one thing. The ...
My Lords, at the heart of this is Parliament taking control. What has been a problem for the past...
My Lords, my perspective is that of a former negotiator. I do not think that a serious parliament...
My Lords, I will intervene very briefly. The proposers of this amendment put forward their argume...
My Lords, I thank the noble Lords, Lord Stevenson of Balmacara, Lord Purvis of Tweed and Lord Han...
I am most grateful to the Minister for that clarification. I think I heard her say that there wil...
My Lords, the chosen words of the Government are “outline approach”. On the noble Lord’s point, t...
The noble Lord, Lord Kerr, said very clearly that the power of having Parliament behind the Gover...
My Lords, I do not want to go into the world of semantics, but the preferred term is “outline app...
Does the Minister not accept that a Command Paper does not give the assurance to Parliament that ...
My Lords, I will come to that point later, which relates to the question that the noble Lord, Lor...
I will keep the Minister in suspense about what I am going to do, but not for long. I am grateful...
Does the noble Lord then accept that it is necessary to have some provision to deal with the situ...
Yes—but I do not have it. I challenge the Minister: if she is asserting that we are as close as s...
While my noble friend is proposing to make a comment, it is highly important that the question of...
My Lords, we have had very fruitful discussions and come quite a long way on this point. All I ca...
The Minister is certainly very brave to take on a former Lord Chancellor in his pomp. I agree wit...
Inspiration is not my line but there is no doubt at all that it is for the House to decide. The m...
I am grateful to the noble and learned Lord. I am getting inspiration in the form of a book from ...
My noble friend could retable the amendment. He should, really.
In short, the advice is confused, but I am going to think about it.
The noble Lord, Lord Tu...
Moved by
Lord Stevenson of Balmacara
13: After Clause 5, insert the following new Cla...
My Lords, the purpose of the amendment is to give the other place a chance to consider whether th...
My Lords, there is no doubt that we on these Benches support the free economic movement of goods ...
My Lords, for this House it is déjà vu all over again. We voted for a customs union in the withdr...
My Lords, I shall try to be as brief as the noble Lord, Lord Kerr. I too tabled an amendment earl...
My Lords, I know I am in a small minority in your Lordships’ House on this one, but I would like ...
I just want to correct the noble Viscount. We have been a member of the customs union with the Eu...
I do not disagree with the noble Lord—but the point I was making is that in the period since 1998...
My Lords, I support the amendment. I hope we will send back a clear message to the other place th...
My Lords, I would like clarification from those who tabled this amendment: they refer to “a” cust...
The situation the noble Baroness is describing will obtain if the Prime Minister’s deal goes thro...
The noble Lord has expressed sentiments that I have heard many times over the past three years fr...
I think what the noble Baroness is doing for the House is eruditely explaining the trade-offs tha...
The noble Baroness has just told your Lordships that the House was trying to protect manufacturin...
My Lords, at this hour, and given the debate, there will probably not be many Members of your Lor...
Follow that wonderful peroration! The Minister has been practising, I am sure. I congratulate him...
Moved by
Lord Stevenson of Balmacara
15: After Clause 5, insert the following new Cla...
My Lords, Amendment 15 deals with whether future trade agreements should have a chapter or separa...
I thank the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson of Balmacara, for tabling this amendment. I will make some...
I am very grateful to the Minister for her full response. I look forward to reading it in Hansard...
Moved by
Lord Tyler
18: After Clause 5, insert the following new Clause—
“Geogr...
My Lords, I am a co-signatory to this amendment. I will be exceedingly brief because of the late ...
My Lords, I wish to make a confession: when I was a Minister responsible for this area, I disobey...
My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Tyler, for tabling this amendment. I fear, however, that I...
My Lords, I have listened with great interest to what the Minister has said. There is a simple tr...