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Moved by
Viscount Hailsham
49: Before Clause 9, insert the following new Clause—
<...My Lords, I am afraid that I am in danger of repeating myself, in the sense that I now rise to mo...
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My Lords, this amendment also bears my name and the names of other noble Lords. I will focus my b...
My Lords, my name is also on this amendment, and I wish to speak briefly on the role that this Ch...
Will the Minister address one point when summarising? Has consideration has been given to the wor...
My Lords, I have great respect for all the proposers of this amendment. It makes me all the more ...
The noble Lord is giving us the speech he gave us in the Article 50 Bill, when it was indeed the ...
If the noble Lord waits until I have concluded my remarks, I think he will be better able to form...
My Lords, as an answer to what the noble Lord, Lord Howard, has just said, the noble Viscount, Lo...
My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Howard of Lympne, is absolutely right to draw our attention to the...
My Lords, my noble friend Lord Hailsham made an eloquent and powerful speech. If I had closed my ...
I am grateful to my noble friend for giving way—
It is Report.
It is a question, and my noble friend has not finished.
Are we learning the lessons of history? Sometimes it is very valuable to see what has happened in...
My Lords, I have listened very carefully to those noble Lords who have proposed this amendment bu...
My Lords, I have a couple of observations, one specific and the other more general. The specific ...
If my noble friend is right in every case, why did Gina Miller have to take action in the High Co...
My noble friend was not present at the time, as a number of us were, but if he is in any doubt wh...
I am sorry; it was later. My noble friend missed the boat by a few months. That was when the Hous...
They were a Labour Government.
Yes, sadly, they were a Labour Government, and my vote was not enough to enable them to survive. ...
The House of Commons is not in control of the legislative canvas—the Government are. This amendme...
I have never seen the word “canvas” in Erskine May—I do not know quite what my noble friend refer...
Surely if we in this House pass this amendment, the House of Commons can send it back, and no ser...
I hope all noble Lords were listening carefully to that. A lot of noble Lords were saying, “Hear,...
The constitutional position has changed radically with the Fixed-Term Parliaments Act. My noble f...
My noble friend knows perfectly well that the Fixed-Term Parliaments Act provides for a vote of n...
Noble Lords may get up only once, and the noble Lord has already done so.
The noble Countess has got up twice.
My Lords, the interventions reflect what we have known throughout the passage of this Bill—and, i...
My Lords, it had not been my intention to take part in this debate because I read in the newspape...
My Lords, I find myself torn between pragmatism and principle—the principle of parliamentary demo...
My Lords, if this amendment is passed, this day, 30 April, should be called hypocrisy day because...
We all know what the intention of the amendment is: not to improve Brexit but to impale it. What ...
Where is Francis Urquhart?
I am glad that the noble Lord is still awake. I take it as a compliment. In 2016, Mr Clegg said c...
My Lords, I am not a natural ditherer. I am very—perhaps overly—decisive. However, I did hesitate...
My Lords, as somebody who has not so far spoken in one of these debates, I want to make a brief c...
My Lords, I think we have now heard, especially if what has been said is true, that the House wil...
Minister!
My Lords, with all courtesy to the noble Lord, perhaps he would get the feeling of the House, whi...
My Lords, I thought this amendment was about Parliament having a say. It is unreasonable not to a...
I am grateful, but I am not surprised by the reception because this House is of course a cosy cab...
My Lords, I support this amendment. I feel that several of my noble friends have exaggerated its ...
My Lords, first, I thank all the contributors to this debate. It is right that we have taken the ...
My Lords, I ask the noble Lord to be careful. He is a Member of the European Parliament and knows...
I was a Member of the European Parliament, but I also know that the vote of the European Parliame...
Will the Government confirm also that that Motion will be amendable in both Houses?
I am not going to dictate what Parliament might want to do with that Motion or any other. Members...
Will the Minister answer the other question: will it be binding on the Government?
Of course it will be binding on the Government. If Parliament rejects the deal we have negotiated...
I ask the Minister to clarify one other point, which we did clarify in Committee: if Parliament r...
If Parliament rejects the agreement, there is nothing for us to legislate further on. It has been...
Returning to the point made by the noble Lord, Lord Wallace, I thought I heard David Davis sugges...
I have not seen David Davis’s comments but I am sure what he said was true and appropriate.
My Lords, I have a very strong sense that this House wants to move to an early decision. I confin...
Moved by
Lord Newby
50: Before Clause 9, insert the following new Clause—
“Parl...
My Lords, your Lordships’ House has just passed an amendment to the Bill that gives Parliament a ...
As the noble Lord mentioned my name, the Liberals were very reluctant to accept the result of the...
My Lords, the first referendum was a mandate to the Government to negotiate Brexit. At the end of...
With due respect to my noble friend, the first referendum was in 1975, overwhelmingly in favour o...
I point out to the noble Lord that in 1975 the European Union simply did not exist. He keeps comi...
My Lords, as I was saying, many noble Lords are opposed to referenda, and I have some sympathy wi...
The noble Lord referred to an initial decision. Could he point to any phase in the passing of the...
Well, during the referendum Bill, all sorts of things were said, including by many people that it...
This is a point of clarification. The noble Lord said that it was an advisory referendum in 2016,...
My Lords, I said that during the debate that was said. The truth is that, if you ask the people t...
Does the noble Lord remember that in 2008, when other people were not advocating a referendum and...
My Lords, that was in the completely different context of the Lisbon treaty. In previous debates ...
Will the noble Lord answer the question asked by my noble friend Lord Grocott? I understand that ...
Whatever the legal words, it would be politically binding, by which I mean that the Commons would...
The noble Lord just made an important point: there is no certainty that that would be granted. Wh...
It would be a matter for member states acting unanimously. Not surprisingly, those of us who migh...
Before the noble Lord sits down, could he tell us what the question would be in his referendum? W...
I suggest that the noble Lord reads the amendment.
My Lords, I am glad to support Amendment 50, to which I have added my name, which was moved so ef...
My Lords, I have put my name to this amendment. Although I have always maintained that the people...
I have listened very carefully to the noble Lord, but what would be the terms? We do not know for...
That is precisely the point that I am making. We certainly cannot be sure that, if the agreement ...
My Lords, I support the amendment. It is increasingly clear that the public want a vote on the fi...
My Lords, I strongly support the amendment and, along with many of my noble friends, I will vote ...
My Lords, I abstained on the last vote because I thought that many of the arguments against that ...
My Lords, this amendment is reckless. It is peculiarly reckless proposed in an unelected House. I...
Yes, it will. Rather, we should seek to understand the nature of this public discontent and the d...
I am grateful to my noble friend for giving way. Would he not concede that the political resentme...
Indeed it did, and what we saw in the vote at the referendum was an extremely disturbing expressi...
Does the noble Lord think that dissatisfaction with the EU has grown greater since the stance it ...
There is a great deal of national grumpiness, and when the British people get grumpy, they are a ...
My Lords, I will not go into the virtues of remaining in the European Union or leaving it, but si...
I shall speak briefly on two technical points. First, the noble Lord, Lord Green, asked whether w...
My Lords, would we still be members of the European Union for the period of the extension and the...
My Lords, I shall be brief, but I do not expect it to make me many friends. I cannot believe how ...
I am glad to see that the noble Lord is still awake. All I require now is his attention.
Mr...
My Lords, it may surprise people who follow anything that I say in this House—there do not need t...
I was, until I saw the mess the Government are making of these negotiations. My noble friend make...
I am really grateful to my noble friend for pointing out that, if circumstances change, there is ...
It is true that I do not pay £39 billion to the Liberal Democrats; that is going to be the cost o...
That £39 billion is a lot less, of course, than the amount we would need to pay in if we remained...
My Lords, when the noble Lord, Lord Newby, spoke to Amendment 50, he spoke about a spell. I say t...
My Lords, if there are those outside this House who, on the basis of the Division list this eveni...
My Lords, I shall keep my remarks very short. I believe that the noble Lord, Lord Newby, hinted a...
My Lords, we have heard the case that, having seen the terms of our withdrawal, Parliament should...
Why does my noble friend think that opinion will be less divided in October than it is today?
...It may or may not be, but that will be an issue for then. The issue for
My Lords, I do not know if the noble Countess, Lady Mar, is in her place but I note that the Comp...
The Minister is making his case by asking for clarification on what the question would be for rat...
I outlined what the Motion would be last time: it would be to accept the deal or not to accept th...
My Lords, it has been an extremely serious and good debate, and I thank all noble Lords who have ...
Moved by
Lord Monks
51: Clause 9, page 7, line 7, after “to” insert—
“(a) appro...
My Lords, it is time—indeed, over time—that Parliament exerted influence on the conduct of the ta...
My Lords, Parliament needs to know what the Government are trying to achieve in their negotiation...
My Lords, is it not quite clear that what the Government have to seek to do is restore self-gover...
My Lords, it is often said that imitation is the most sincere form of flattery, but I rather thin...
I was not really intending to get involved in this debate. However, the noble Lord, Lord Campbell...
My Lords, I am very glad to follow the noble Lord, Lord Hamilton of Epsom. He spoke in rather a d...
My Lords, in one way, it is difficult to imagine a more pertinent week for this amendment to arri...
My Lords, I begin by making it clear that Parliament has a critical role in scrutinising the Gove...
My Lords, I thank all those who took part in this debate, which has continued the theme of this a...
Moved by
Lord Cormack
52: Clause 9, page 7, line 9, at end insert—
“( ) It is a...
My Lords, Amendment 52 is grouped with Amendment 62 and I will address most of my remarks to the ...
My Lords, I will speak in favour of Amendments 52 and 62. Given the strictures on repetition, I w...
What evidence does the noble Lord have that you get a better deal when you go back to the table t...
The noble Lord may be able to predict whether it will be better or worse, but any deal that is ac...
My Lords, I do not think that this is really about the European Union. This is about parliamentar...
Is the negotiation with the EU not somewhat unique, because you are negotiating with 27 different...
It is unusual to negotiate with 27 different countries, but I have negotiated with large numbers ...
My Lords, I am a great admirer of my noble friend Lord Reid and therefore, if he presses this to ...
With the leave of the House—and the noble Countess, Lady Mar, if she is in—I want to say somethin...
My noble friend makes a very good point, but all of those further eventualities would be so much ...
My Lords, it is always a pleasure to agree with people from the Labour Party. I certainly agree w...
My Lords, the case has been made that should Parliament fail to approve the Government’s withdraw...
I welcome the constructive nature of my noble friend’s criticism, if you follow me. I am not sure...
I thank noble Lords for their contributions to this debate. I remain as confident as I was debati...
My Lords, I have no intention of seeking to test the opinion of the House on Amendment 52 because...
I should say that the same argument applies to Amendment 62.
I do not know whether I am grateful for that or not, but I made it plain at the very beginning th...
Moved by
Lord Judge
52A: Clause 9, page 7, line 10, leave out subsection (2)
My Lords, I bring this amendment with support from all sides and wonder whether your Lordships wo...
My Lords, if Amendment 52A is agreed to, I cannot call Amendment 53 for reasons of pre-emption.
My Lords, Amendment 53 in this group is in my name and those of the noble Baronesses, Lady Hayter...
My Lords, I had not intended to speak in this debate, which is way above my pay grade, but in ans...
My Lords, I am a signatory to Amendment 53, as the noble Lord, Lord Lisvane, said, and I want to ...
My Lords, I start by thanking my noble friend Lord Rooker for reminding us of the work of Lord Re...
My Lords, let me start on a positive note. My noble friend Lord Callanan was indeed pleased to ad...
Before the Minister moves on, can she clarify what the answer is to the question asked from the O...
I listened with interest to that point, but I am not sure that I entirely agree with that constru...
Can we just agree that, as far as the noble Baroness and the Government Front Bench are concerned...
In short, yes—with this caveat. The Government regret that we are not able to be signatories to A...
My Lords, we have made some progress. If the use of this extraordinary power—extraordinary in the...
Moved by
Lord Lisvane
53: Clause 9, page 7, line 11, leave out “(including modifying ...
Moved by
Baroness Goldie
53A: Clause 9, page 7, line 13, after “taxation” insert “or ...
Moved by
Baroness Goldie
54A: Clause 9, page 7, line 15, after “offence,” insert—
...My Lords, before I call Amendment 55A I must inform noble Lords that there is an error in the Mar...
Moved by
Baroness Massey of Darwen
55A: Clause 9, page 7, line 17, at end insert—
...My Lords, together with many noble Lords, I have always fought for the rights of children, to pro...
My Lords, I congratulate my noble friend on having put the amendment before us. I am sure the Gov...
My Lords, we discussed two key aspects of protecting children’ rights post Brexit in Committee.
I support the amendment, to which I have added my name. I shall speak for no more than a minute, ...
My Lords, I simply want briefly to challenge the central plank of the case made by the noble Lord...
I was President of the Family Division. It is interesting that, as far as I know, in domestic fam...
My Lords, on these Benches we also support this important amendment. It is easy to lose contact w...
My Lords, I support the amendment in the names of the noble Baroness, Lady Massey, and other nobl...
My Lords, I briefly add my support for this amendment. It seems that much of the debate about EU ...
My Lords, this has been an important short debate. I congratulate my noble friend Lady Massey of ...
My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Massey, for raising the important issue of ch...
As one of those who was involved in the drafting of the Children Act, my recollection is that it ...
I defer to the noble and learned Baroness’s prowess in this area—I would not seek to usurp it for...
My Lords, I will not test the opinion of the House tonight, as I said earlier on. I simply thank ...
Moved by
Lord Wigley
57: After Clause 9, insert the following new Clause—
“Fail...
My Lords, the first objective of the proposed new clause is to test whether the Article 50 notice...
My Lords, for the reasons I have given before, the amendment restricts what we did on Amendment 4...
My Lords, I understand the intention of the noble Lord, Lord Wigley. He is concerned, as are many...
Do I take it from that that the Minister is not going to answer my question?
You can take it from that, yes.
I cannot give any false hope that I will reflect further on...
Will the Minister please give an answer to the question posed by the noble Baroness?
I am not in a position to share confidential government legal advice on this matter.
Well, no doubt the House has taken good note of that comment and at some time in the future perha...
Moved by
Lord Dubs
59: After Clause 9, insert the following new Clause—
“Mainte...
My Lords, this is a very modest amendment. Its aim is to maintain after Brexit one of the main ex...
My Lords, my name is joined with that of the noble Lord, Lord Dubs, on this amendment. I think th...
My Lords, I, too, have put my name to the amendment. As the noble Lord, Lord Dubs, has pointed ou...
My Lords, I shall say just a few quick words as my name is also attached to this amendment. In es...
My Lords, my noble friend Lord Dubs, in moving this amendment, described it as a modest proposal....
I thank the noble Lord, Lord Dubs, for moving his amendment and giving us an opportunity to speak...
My Lords, I am grateful for the support of Members of the House for this amendment. In a curious ...
Moved by
The Earl of Clancarty
60: After Clause 9, insert the following new Clause—
My Lords, Amendment 60 seeks to maintain opportunities for young people to travel, work and study...
My Lords, I am very glad to support the amendment. The world is totally interdependent. Any futur...
My Lords, I was pleased to speak to a similar amendment in the name of the noble Earl, Lord Clanc...
My Lords, I support my noble friend Lord Clancarty on Amendment 60, and speak specifically on the...
My Lords, having not pressed my amendment on a very similar subject in Committee, I would like to...
My Lords, the noble Earl has done a great service in bringing this amendment back after a very go...
I thank the noble Earl, Lord Clancarty, for the opportunity to discuss these important issues yet...
My Lords, I thank noble Lords who have taken part in this brief debate and the Minister for his r...
Moved by
Lord Berkeley
61: After Clause 9, insert the following new Clause—
“Si...
My Lords, I am moving this amendment on behalf of my noble friend Lord Bradshaw, who could not be...
My Lords, I put my name to this amendment and back up what the noble Lord, Lord Berkeley, has sai...
My Lords, I rise briefly to support my noble friend and the noble Lord, Lord Bilimoria, on their ...
My Lords, the issue raised by the amendment is key to how we depart the EU. Indeed, the urgency o...
I thank the noble Baroness for her comments. Amendment 61, tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Bradsha...
My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who spoke in this short debate. Apart from the Ministe...
Moved by
Baroness Young of Old Scone
64: After Clause 9, insert the following new Cla...
My Lords, my noble friend Lord Judd and the noble Lords, Lord Tyler and Lord Lisvane, have also p...
My Lords, I support Amendment 64, which has been ably explained by my noble friend Lady Young. Sh...
My Lords, let me say that the Bill does not in any way alter the Government’s long-standing commi...
My Lords, the noble Baroness has referred to the fact that many matters will be minor and technic...
The noble Lord makes a perfectly valid point, with which I have some sympathy, but I am endeavour...
I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Jones of Whitchurch, and the noble Lord, Lord Judd, who have had...
Moved by
Baroness Smith of Newnham
65: After Clause 9, insert the following new Claus...
My Lords, the hour is late and many of our noble colleagues have already left. Your Lordships mig...
My Lords, the issues raised and, if I may say so, powerfully argued in her speech by the noble Ba...
My Lords, I spent this weekend with a couple whom I have known for a long time. She is German and...
My Lords, as has just been said, the price of the Government’s failure to accept the advice of th...
My Lords, I would have hoped that the noble Baronesses, Lady Ludford and Lady D’Souza, and my nob...
My Lords, let me make clear that the rights of EU citizens living in the UK are extremely importa...
I am grateful to the Minister for giving us a fairly thorough answer, but I find it a little diff...
Moved by
Baroness Burt of Solihull
68: After Clause 9, insert the following new Claus...
My Lords, Amendment 68 is in the names of the noble Baroness, Lady Kennedy of The Shaws, the nobl...
My Lords, EU family law provisions are tried and tested. There is a broad consensus that they wor...
I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Burt, for raising the important issue of child maintenance, whic...
My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for her comments, particularly what she said about the on...
Moved by
Lord Lisvane
86: Clause 17, page 14, line 14, leave out “the Minister consid...
My Lords, as this amendment is consequential on Amendment 31, which was agreed by your Lordships ...
Moved by
Lord Callanan
86A: Clause 17, page 14, line 19, at end insert—
“( ) No...
My Lords, in Committee many noble Lords raised valuable concerns regarding the use of the consequ...
My Lords, I recognise that the Government have moved on this issue, even though 10 years is the l...
Moved by
Lord Lisvane
87: Clause 17, page 14, line 22, leave out “the Minister consid...
My Lords, this amendment is also consequential to Amendment 31. I beg to move.