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Financial Guidance and Claims Bill [HL]

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Wednesday, 19 July 2017, in the House of Lords, led by Baroness Buscombe. The answering member was Lord McKenzie of Luton.
Lords committee stage first day. Clause 1 agreed to. Schedules 1 and 2 agreed to. Clause 2 under consideration. Part 1 of 2.

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Reference

783 cc1642-1688 

Session

2017-19

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Committee stage

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Proceeding contributions

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 783 c1643 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord McKenzie of Luton

1: Clause 1, page 2, line 6, at end insert—

“( ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 783 cc1643-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 2 and 3. Amendment 1 is a probing amendment designed t...


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Baroness Coussins | 783 cc1644-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 1, and remind the Committee of the interest I declared at Second Re...

Viscount Trenchard | 783 c1645 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall also comment on Amendment 1, proposed by the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie. I am no...

Baroness Buscombe | 783 cc1645-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie, for tabling these amendments on the establishmen...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 783 c1647 (Link to this contribution)

I have looked at the amendment and listened carefully to what the Minister said. I agree very muc...

Baroness Buscombe | 783 c1648 (Link to this contribution)

I hope I have understood the noble Lord. Is he suggesting that we should include all of this in t...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 783 c1648 (Link to this contribution)

No, I am just trying to clarify for the noble Baroness. Is she saying that, in principle, she see...

Baroness Buscombe | 783 c1648 (Link to this contribution)

I accept what the noble Lord says but I am also saying that what is necessary is already either i...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 783 c1648 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for that reply and all other noble Lords who have participated in this debat...

Baroness Buscombe | 783 c1649 (Link to this contribution)

I again thank the noble Lord for these amendments. It is helpful to have on the record a little m...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 783 c1649 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for that further explanation—I think we are almost there. Only that big ques...

Baroness Buscombe | 783 c1649 (Link to this contribution)

That is a good question. I do not have the answer, so I will write to the noble Lord.

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 783 c1649 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for that. I think we have taken this as far as we can go this afternoon. I beg leav...

Baroness Altmann | 783 c1649 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Altmann

4: Clause 2, page 2, line 11, leave out “advice” and insert...

Baroness Altmann | 783 cc1649-1651 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment goes to the heart of the consumer experience of what we are trying to do...

Viscount Brookeborough | 783 c1651 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support this amendment. I was on the ad hoc Select Committee on Financial Exclusion, ...

Lord Kirkwood of Kirkhope | 783 c1651 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Viscount, Lord Brookeborough. I too served on the ...

Viscount Trenchard | 783 c1652 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend Lady Altmann has done us a great service by tabling her amendment and t...

Lord Haskel | 783 c1652 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I served on the ad hoc committee, and I would like to add one point. One thing that cam...

Earl of Listowel | 783 c1653 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hope the noble Baroness, Lady Altmann, will not mind my taking this opportunity, whic...

Baroness Kramer | 783 cc1653-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendments moved by the noble Baroness, Lady Altmann, are significant. They go to t...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 783 cc1655-6 (Link to this contribution)

Well, my Lords, what is in a name? I start by declaring my interests: I am a former chairman of S...

Lord Skelmersdale | 783 c1656 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before this debate concludes with, I hope, the wise words of my noble friend the Minist...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 783 c1657 (Link to this contribution)

I do not wish to prolong the debate, because we could continue this discussion outside if we wish...

Baroness Buscombe | 783 cc1657-8 (Link to this contribution)

I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in this helpful debate, and in particular my noble fr...

Baroness Kramer | 783 c1658 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may ask the Minister for some clarification. My question relates to a point raised by t...

Baroness Buscombe | 783 cc1659-1660 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness. Looking behind me, and in order to be absolutely right on this, I wou...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 783 c1660 (Link to this contribution)

I understand that a note has come at pace with its best advice. It might be sensible to ask for a...

Baroness Kramer | 783 c1661 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may add to that. Partly this is problematic because individuals receiving the debt advi...

Baroness Buscombe | 783 c1661 (Link to this contribution)

This turns on the question of what we mean by seamless. The point is that this body will be able ...

Lord Sharkey | 783 c1661 (Link to this contribution)

Is it not the case that, if you can give only debt advice, that advice will be defective if you c...

Baroness Buscombe | 783 cc1661-2 (Link to this contribution)

There is clearly an issue here. This question is being looked at, at the moment. As I explained b...

Baroness Altmann | 783 c1662 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend the Minister for her remarks and all noble Lords for their excellent cont...

Baroness Buscombe | 783 c1662 (Link to this contribution)

I am mindful of what my noble friend has said, and I hope that she is encouraged by my reference ...

Baroness Altmann | 783 c1663 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend for those remarks and I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 783 c1663 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

5: Clause 2, page 2, line 13, at end insert—

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Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 783 cc1663-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 5 I shall speak also to Amendment 42. Here I shall begin to put som...

Baroness Buscombe | 783 cc1666-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson, for his positive contributions so far on the Bi...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 783 c1667 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for her full response and recognise much of what she said about the work cur...

Baroness Drake | 783 c1667 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Drake

6: Clause 2, page 2, line 13, at end insert—

“that must...

Baroness Drake | 783 cc1667-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 28, 29, 30 and 32. I refer the Committee to my interes...

Baroness Coussins | 783 c1670 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 6, which I rather hope might prove uncontroversial. This is because...

Baroness Kramer | 783 c1670 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we support the amendments in this group. I start from the assumption that they are reme...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 783 c1670 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it may come as no surprise that we on the Front Bench support my noble friend Lady Drak...

Baroness Buscombe | 783 cc1670-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lords, Lord McKenzie and Lord Stevenson, and the noble Baroness, Lady...

Baroness Kramer | 783 c1672 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister take away and think through this issue? Their Lordships have been perfectly cor...

Baroness Buscombe | 783 c1673 (Link to this contribution)

I will certainly take the point away—it was well made. I assure the noble Baroness that this shou...

Lord Sharkey | 783 c1673 (Link to this contribution)

Many of the jobs we have created since 2010 are sole-trader jobs. Is it not the case that there i...

Baroness Buscombe | 783 c1673 (Link to this contribution)

As I just said, we will need to take back and clarify this point. My understanding is certainly t...

Baroness Drake | 783 c1673 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for her reply. We are in danger of breaking out into agreement, because I ag...

Lord Sharkey | 783 cc1673-4 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Sharkey

7: Clause 2, page 2, line 16, at end insert—

“( ) In rela...

Lord Sharkey | 783 cc1674-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 7, I shall speak also to Amendment 23. These amendments, in my name...

Viscount Trenchard | 783 cc1675-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have some sympathy with the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Sharkey, to intro...

Baroness Altmann | 783 c1676 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I echo the wise words of my noble friend Lord Trenchard and certainly support the spiri...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 783 cc1676-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we are not having much success with our amendments here on the other side. I had hoped ...

Earl of Listowel | 783 cc1679-1680 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, on cold calling, my mother suffered from dementia and, in the early stages, before we r...

Baroness Meacher | 783 c1680 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise for not having been present at Second Reading. I rise to express my support...

Bishop of Newcastle | 783 c1681 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, rise to speak in support of Amendment 41. I declare an interest as a vice-presi...

Lord Kirkwood of Kirkhope | 783 cc1681-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not want to delay this debate, which has been a very important one. This is the mo...

Baroness Buscombe | 783 cc1682-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I start by thanking all noble Lords, including the noble Baroness, Lady Kramer, the nob...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 783 c1683 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, every journey starts with a single step. We are not able to put in as an amendment the ...

Baroness Buscombe | 783 c1683 (Link to this contribution)

I hear what the noble Lord says, but I want to assure noble Lords that, as I said, the Government...

Baroness Buscombe | 783 c1683 (Link to this contribution)

Noble Lords may laugh, but I have the advantage of having been at the other Dispatch Box in oppos...

Baroness Kramer | 783 cc1683-5 (Link to this contribution)

I think the Minister may have misread noble Lords’ tone and intent. As everyone has said, there i...

Baroness Buscombe | 783 c1685 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I understand entirely and accept what the noble Baroness is saying. Indeed I understand...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 783 c1685 (Link to this contribution)

Can the noble Baroness particularise for us the Bills mentioned in the Queen’s Speech for the nex...

Baroness Buscombe | 783 c1685 (Link to this contribution)

No, I cannot do that at the moment and I think it is unfair to ask me to set out the Bills that c...

Baroness Kramer | 783 c1685 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry, but other than a Private Member’s Bill—I think even all the Private Member’s Bills ha...

Baroness Buscombe | 783 cc1685-6 (Link to this contribution)

I hear what the noble Baroness is saying, but I stick to what I said before: there may be opportu...

Lord Sharkey | 783 c1686 (Link to this contribution)

In view of what the Minister is saying about the measures in place to reduce cold calling, does s...

Baroness Buscombe | 783 cc1686-7 (Link to this contribution)

The Government take the threat of scams and the whole issue of cold calling very seriously. On th...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 783 c1687 (Link to this contribution)

I feel humbled if in any sense what I was saying was taken as a criticism of the wonderful work t...

Earl of Listowel | 783 c1687 (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Lord withdraws his amendment, I thank the Minister for her kind words to me. I g...

Baroness Buscombe | 783 c1687 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Earl. Of course, I take very seriously everything that noble Lords have said in...

Lord Sharkey | 783 cc1687-8 (Link to this contribution)

I start by thanking all noble Lords who have spoken in this debate. I think it is true that all s...

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