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Immigration Bill

Debate on bills on Monday, 21 March 2016, in the House of Lords.
Lords report stage (third day, part two). Amendment 121, new clause disagreed to on division (111 to 148). Amendment 122, new clause disagreed to on division (60 to 136). Amendment 122A, new clause disagreed to on division (91 to 134 (tellers reported 134 votes, Clerks recorded 133 names)). Clauses 64, 67-68, 87, 89 and Schedules 11-12, amendments agreed to. Clause 80 amendment, request for leave to withdraw objected to. Amendment disagreed to on a show of voices. Amendment 145, new clause agreed to.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

769 cc2138-2220 

Session

2015-16

Department

Home Office

Legislative stage

Report stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber
Immigration Bill 2015-16. As amended in Grand Committee.
Tuesday, 9 February 2016
Bills
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord Hylton | 769 c2138 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Hylton

120: After Clause 63, insert the following new Clause—

“Fa...

Lord Hylton | 769 cc2138-2140 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the right reverend Prelate the Bishop of Southwark and the noble Baroness, Lady...


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Lord Alton of Liverpool | 769 cc2140-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my Amendment 122A, which my noble friend Lord Hylton has just referred to and to which ...

Viscount Hailsham | 769 c2141 (Link to this contribution)

Would the noble Lord clarify subsection (3) of the proposed new clause, where I see that the word...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 769 cc2141-2 (Link to this contribution)

I am happy to reassure the noble Viscount that it is the latter. That is why it does not use the ...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 769 c2142 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to support the amendment. I was going to talk about the human rights implication...

Earl of Sandwich | 769 c2142 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have one brief question for the Minister, who is going to rehearse the various stages...

Lord Green of Deddington | 769 c2143 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Hylton, has correctly anticipated the thrust of my response to his...

Bishop of Norwich | 769 cc2143-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak briefly in the absence of the right reverend Prelate the Bishop of Sout...

Lord Rosser | 769 cc2144-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 122A, since my name is associated with it. Some 2,000 refuge...

Baroness Hamwee | 769 c2145 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name is to the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Hylton. I prefer it to the am...

Lord Bates | 769 cc2145-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lords for enabling this debate. We have had another passionate debate...

Baroness Hamwee | 769 c2147 (Link to this contribution)

I may have missed it, but the noble Lord, Lord Hylton, asked the Minister whether he had an updat...

Lord Bates | 769 c2147 (Link to this contribution)

I do not have those updated numbers, but I will be happy to write to the noble Baroness. I mentio...

Lord Hylton | 769 cc2147-2150 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister. He gave me one more small crumb of comfort when he spoke...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 769 c2150 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Alton of Liverpool

121: After Clause 63, insert the following new Claus...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 769 cc2150-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, serendipity, or the way the dice fall, means that the House is having to hear rather mo...

Baroness Cox | 769 cc2154-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in Committee, I gave my reasons for supporting the amendment and why I have no doubt th...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 769 cc2155-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I spoke in support of this amendment in Committee, although as the noble Lord, Lord Alt...

Baroness Kennedy of the Shaws | 769 cc2157-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, none of us who is pressing this amendment invokes the word “genocide” too readily. For ...

Baroness Nicholson of Winterbourne | 769 cc2159-2162 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak this evening in the name of those who would undoubtedly qualify under this extr...

Archbishop of York | 769 cc2162-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have two concerns in relation to this issue, to which I will speak briefly. First, in...

Lord Pannick | 769 cc2163-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Alton, and other noble Lords who have spoken have made an overwhel...

Viscount Hailsham | 769 cc2164-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I find myself in great sympathy with what the noble Lord, Lord Pannick, has just said. ...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 769 cc2165-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it gives me great pleasure to applaud the noble Lord, Lord Alton, for bringing this ame...

Baroness Berridge | 769 cc2166-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the issues that the tablers of this amendment have raised are so important and urgent t...

Lord Brown of Eaton-under-Heywood | 769 cc2168-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support this amendment but think it right to note that it would involve two radical c...

Lord Shinkwin | 769 c2169 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support this amendment and the excellent speeches made by other noble Lords, particul...

Lord Green of Deddington | 769 c2170 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the hour is very late. I shall be very brief. I find myself on this occasion in broad a...

Lord Farmer | 769 cc2170-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, will be brief. There can be no doubt that the noble Lords, Lord Alton and Lord ...

Lord Elton | 769 c2171 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, whether this amendment is carried or not, it must be clear to a Government who refer so...

Baroness Hamwee | 769 c2171 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have a couple of sentences on behalf of these Benches. This may be the first time tha...

Lord Rosser | 769 c2172 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, no one can fail to be concerned about and moved by the appalling position of those to w...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 769 c2172 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord is telling us that the Labour Party agrees in principle with the feelings behind t...

Lord Rosser | 769 c2172 (Link to this contribution)

I do not share the noble Lord’s view; I am setting out our view of the amendment and have referre...

Lord Keen of Elie | 769 c2173 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, no one could but be moved by the strength of feeling and concern that has been expresse...

Lord Keen of Elie | 769 c2173 (Link to this contribution)

I shall finish the sentence, if I may—to those who are defined as refugees. The two are entirely ...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 769 c2173 (Link to this contribution)

The noble and learned Lord said that he was going to give way at the end of the sentence. I detec...

Lord Keen of Elie | 769 c2174 (Link to this contribution)

I am obliged to the noble Lord. I was aware of that—and, of course, the distinction lies in inter...

Baroness Kennedy of the Shaws | 769 c2174 (Link to this contribution)

The Yazidi are in a different position, which is why I raised them particularly. They are perceiv...

Lord Keen of Elie | 769 c2174 (Link to this contribution)

I am obliged to the noble Baroness, but the reality is that under the refugee convention and the ...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 769 c2175 (Link to this contribution)

Will the noble and learned Lord point out where in the amendment it specifies anything about Yazi...

Lord Keen of Elie | 769 c2175 (Link to this contribution)

With respect to the noble Lord, it is nothing of the sort. On the last point, the Syrian vulnerab...

Lord Ashdown of Norton-sub-Hamdon | 769 c2175 (Link to this contribution)

I know the Minister is trying to make progress, but he said that the Syrian vulnerable persons sc...

Lord Keen of Elie | 769 cc2175-6 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord makes the point, and I accept that the scheme applies only to Syrians in the conte...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 769 c2176 (Link to this contribution)

My noble and learned friend is making quite heavy weather of the inadequacies of the amendment. C...

Lord Keen of Elie | 769 c2176 (Link to this contribution)

I believe that we are already doing all of that. This was addressed by my noble friend Lord Bates...

Lord Elton | 769 c2176 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before my noble and learned friend sits down, he has heard considerable argument in fav...

Lord Keen of Elie | 769 c2177 (Link to this contribution)

I am obliged to the noble Lord. Respectfully, it appears to me that the proper course of action i...

Lord Lea of Crondall | 769 c2177 (Link to this contribution)

Is the Minister saying that such a—

Lord Keen of Elie | 769 c2177 (Link to this contribution)

I have not given way.

In conclusion, this amendment does not even address the objective set...

Lord Lea of Crondall | 769 c2177 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister sits down, if such a Motion was put forward, would it have the Government’s s...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 769 c2177 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble and learned Lord, Lord Keen, ended on an interesting note, which the noble Lo...

Lord Keen of Elie | 769 c2177 (Link to this contribution)

If I may, with respect, correct the noble Lord, the Motion would not be required to be from the G...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 769 c2177 (Link to this contribution)

Would the noble and learned Lord like to remind me of the last time a Motion of that kind was tab...

Lord Keen of Elie | 769 c2177 (Link to this contribution)

I am not aware of the date when that was last done, but, as the noble Lord observed, it would be ...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 769 cc2177-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it seems that we are back into the circular arguments that we have been having. The las...

Lord Dubs | 769 c2179 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Dubs

122: After Clause 63, insert the following new Clause—

“Prot...

Lord Dubs | 769 cc2179-2182 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 122 is concerned with individuals who helped the British Army and general Bri...

Baroness Hamwee | 769 cc2182-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have added my name to the amendment. The whole of this Bill raises moral issues, and ...

Lord Ashdown of Norton-sub-Hamdon | 769 cc2183-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the hour is late and no doubt the House does not want to sit for too long. This is an i...

Viscount Hailsham | 769 cc2184-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if the amendment was simply in the terms expressed by the noble Lord, I would support i...

Lord Ashdown of Norton-sub-Hamdon | 769 c2185 (Link to this contribution)

The amendment does not apply to all those people. It applies to all those people who have served ...

Viscount Hailsham | 769 c2185 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord asked whether I support the Government’s policy regarding interpreters. I happen t...

Baroness Nicholson of Winterbourne | 769 c2185 (Link to this contribution)

In support of this amendment, I remind the House that Britain has been deficient in its treatment...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 769 cc2186-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there are some things that I think we can all agree on. I agree with the noble Lord, Lo...

Lord Ashdown of Norton-sub-Hamdon | 769 c2187 (Link to this contribution)

I said that, according to the figures I have, under the intimidation scheme the number of Afghan ...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 769 cc2187-8 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord is right on that. The point is that 600 Afghan locally employed staff have been re...

Lord Dubs | 769 c2188 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, what the Minister has said is quite complicated. There are a number of different scheme...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 769 c2188 (Link to this contribution)

They had to travel here to claim asylum. What they cannot do is claim asylum in foreign countries...

Lord Dubs | 769 c2188 (Link to this contribution)

They had to be given visas or something with which to come here. The amendment says that they hav...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 769 c2188 (Link to this contribution)

One of the reasons why we cannot accept the amendment—the red line, if you like—is that we do not...

Lord Dubs | 769 c2188 (Link to this contribution)

The hour is late but, as I remember it, the Bosnians were allowed to come here in order to be abl...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 769 c2188 (Link to this contribution)

I can certainly assure the noble Lord that, if he can produce examples of people who would appear...

Lord Dubs | 769 c2189 (Link to this contribution)

I appreciate that. I know of at least two who have been identified in Calais by members of an NGO...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 769 cc2189-2191 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Alton of Liverpool

122A: After Clause 63, insert the following new Clau...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 769 c2191 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we debated Amendment 122A some hours ago, when it was coupled with Amendment 122. It de...

Lord Bates | 769 c2191 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

123: Schedule 11, page 173, line 33, at end insert—

“( ) In...

Earl of Listowel | 769 c2191 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

The Earl of Listowel

123A: Schedule 11, page 174, line 27, leave out “condit...

Earl of Listowel | 769 cc2191-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 123B, 123C and 123D. I thank the noble Baronesses, Lad...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 769 cc2195-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support this group of amendments, to which I have added my name, for the reasons outl...

Bishop of Norwich | 769 cc2197-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the situation of most young adults in this country reveals why this group of amendments...

Baroness Hamwee | 769 c2198 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have added my name to these amendments and I was planning to say nothing more than th...

Lord Bates | 769 cc2198-2200 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Earl, Lord Listowel, for moving the amendment. He is one of the Membe...

Earl of Listowel | 769 c2200 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am most grateful to the Minister for his encouraging reply. I should have acknowledge...

Lord Bates | 769 c2200 (Link to this contribution)

I am happy to come back on that. Where it is not safe for the person to be returned because there...

Earl of Listowel | 769 c2200 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for that reply. Casting back to past Immigration Bills, it is not necessaril...

Lord Bates | 769 c2200 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

124: Schedule 11, page 180, line 41, after “made” insert “by the ...

Lord Bates | 769 c2201 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

126: Clause 64, page 57, line 3, leave out “or”

127: Clause...

Lord Bates | 769 c2201 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

128: Clause 67, page 58, line 3, leave out “first” and insert “tr...

Lord Bates | 769 c2201 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

136: Clause 68, page 59, line 1, after “to” insert “—(i)”

1...

Lord Teverson | 769 c2202 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Teverson

140B: After Clause 68, insert the following new Clause—

...

Lord Teverson | 769 c2202 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall not keep the House for a great deal of time. This is an issue which I believe t...

Baroness Hamwee | 769 c2202 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, at the previous stage my noble friend and I tabled an amendment that sought to change t...

Lord Green of Deddington | 769 c2203 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendment simply deletes a key requirement in a spousal visa. Noble Lords will reme...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 769 cc2203-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken on this amendment and I appreciate the knowledg...

Lord Teverson | 769 c2204 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for going through all of that. It is a difference of opinion on pr...

Lord Bates | 769 c2204 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

141: Schedule 12, page 186, line 15, at end insert—

“(1A) A...

Lord Bates | 769 cc2204-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I can be brief. These are three relatively small amendments, responding to the report f...

Lord Bates | 769 c2205 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

142: Schedule 12, page 186, line 16, after “containing” insert “a...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 769 c2205 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wallace of Saltaire

144B: Clause 80, page 65, line 7, at end insert—

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 769 cc2206-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the immigration skills charge is a major innovation in UK immigration policy and very d...

Lord Renfrew of Kaimsthorn | 769 c2207 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support this amendment in so far as it applies to the university sector and, indeed, ...

Baroness Warwick of Undercliffe | 769 cc2207-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak in favour of the amendment in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Wallace, to...

Baroness Hamwee | 769 cc2209-2210 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend filleted his remarks rather skilfully. I have been trying to do the sam...

Lord Green of Deddington | 769 c2210 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I very much agree with the thrust of the contribution of the noble Lord, Lord Wallace o...

Lord Bates | 769 c2210 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Wallace, for moving the amendment. We have to remember tha...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 769 c2210 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very interested to hear that. It was suggested to me in an email I had the other d...

Lord Bates | 769 cc2210-1 (Link to this contribution)

In that case, I will return to my speech and go through it in context. This is something addition...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 769 cc2211-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Minister has been able to provide some reassurance, but not yet very much, and I wo...

Lord Bates | 769 c2212 (Link to this contribution)

The picture I am trying to paint for the noble Lord is that we have listened very carefully, incl...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 769 c2212 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it might help the House if the Government could tell us when their response to the Migr...

Lord Bates | 769 c2213 (Link to this contribution)

With the leave of the House, I will just say that I have recounted our response to the Migration ...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 769 c2213 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, a quarter to one in the morning is not the ideal time to test the opinion of the House....

Lord Bates | 769 c2213 (Link to this contribution)

I should just say for the benefit of the record that I notice on the government Benches a signifi...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 769 c2213 (Link to this contribution)

There is a strong argument that the way to make legislation on important issues is not in the ear...

Lord Bates | 769 c2213 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

145: After Clause 84, insert the following new Clause—

“Dut...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 769 cc2213-4 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Lister of Burtersett

145A: After Clause 84, insert the following ne...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 769 cc2214-6 (Link to this contribution)

The amendment would: limit the fee that the Secretary of State may charge for the making of an ap...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 769 cc2216-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support what the noble Baroness, Lady Lister, has just said to the House. As she indi...

Lord Bates | 769 cc2217-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Lister, for her Amendment 145A. It is important that t...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 769 cc2218-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Alton, for persevering and staying up at this lat...

Lord Bates | 769 c2219 (Link to this contribution)

I will say only that, with the existing arrangements for waivers for those who are in particular ...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 769 c2219 (Link to this contribution)

According to Amnesty, the waiver is limited, but I will have to look into that. The Minister talk...

Lord Bates | 769 cc2219-2220 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

146: Clause 87, page 68, line 35, after “containing” insert “(whe...

Lord Bates | 769 c2220 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bates

152: Clause 89, page 70, line 2, at end insert—

“( ) But su...

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