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Immigration Bill

Debate on bills on Monday, 7 April 2014, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Taylor of Holbeach.
Lords report stage third day. Bill, as amended, ordered to be printed (HL Bill 98).

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

753 cc1138-1212 

Session

2013-14

Department

Home Office

Legislative stage

Report stage

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee twenty-second report.
Wednesday, 12 February 2014
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Immigration Bill. Constitution Committee (HL) sixth report.
Wednesday, 5 March 2014
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Immigration Bill 2013-14. As amended in Committee.
Wednesday, 19 March 2014
Bills
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee twenty-third report.
Wednesday, 19 March 2014
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords

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Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee twenty-fourth report.
Friday, 28 March 2014
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Immigration Bill 2013-14. As amended on Report.
Monday, 7 April 2014
Bills
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2014-0722
Monday, 7 April 2014
Deposited papers
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 753 cc1138-1140 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Butler-Sloss

55A: Before Clause 64, insert the following new Clause...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 753 cc1140-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as your Lordships will see, I have formidable names supporting me on this amendment. I ...


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Lord McColl of Dulwich | 753 cc1143-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it was during a health debate seven years ago that I first drew attention to this appal...

Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 753 cc1146-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am proud and pleased to be a signatory to Amendments 55A and 62A, and I am grateful f...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 753 cc1148-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I had not intended to speak on this amendment and I find myself in a curious position i...

Baroness Hamwee | 753 cc1149-1150 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too applaud the determination of those who have brought this matter before the House ...

Lord Quirk | 753 cc1150-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, although I share some of the misgivings already expressed, including that of the noble ...

Lord Northbourne | 753 c1151 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am not an expert in this field but I have encountered this situation in the context o...

Lord Dubs | 753 cc1151-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment with great enthusiasm and want to comment briefly on an interes...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 753 c1152 (Link to this contribution)

I had not intended to speak but I was concerned to hear about some of the disturbing individual c...

Lord Cormack | 753 cc1152-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have clearly got to find a way forward. As my noble friend Lady Neville-Rolfe has ju...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 753 c1154 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment. Those who have listened to my noble and learned friend Lady Bu...

Earl of Sandwich | 753 c1154 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, on a final historical note, the noble Lord, Lord Cormack, probably remembers the late L...

Baroness Hussein-Ece | 753 cc1154-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall add a few words to this important debate. There cannot be many of us in your Lo...

Lord Avebury | 753 c1155 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will just pick up a point that my noble friend made about the difference in powers be...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 753 cc1155-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been interesting. This is not the first time that the House has discussed the ...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 753 cc1157-8 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry if that was the case. I was hoping that all noble Lords here would have seen it. A cop...

Lord McColl of Dulwich | 753 c1158 (Link to this contribution)

Will the noble Lord make clear why the advocates that he is proposing do not have a legal status?...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 753 c1158 (Link to this contribution)

That is a question that the modern slavery Bill will indeed be able to consider. The whole point ...

Lord Cormack | 753 c1158 (Link to this contribution)

Can my noble friend give the House a guarantee that there will be something on that on the face o...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 753 c1158 (Link to this contribution)

The Bill that is presented to Parliament is hardly likely to contain details of this measure beca...

Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 753 c1158 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, pilots are often very good places to start. But the noble Lord, Lord McColl, the noble ...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 753 c1158 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness is perhaps right to chide me, but we are seeking to get this matter right. It ...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 753 c1159 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for interrupting the Minister, but I happen to agree with him that the most important...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 753 c1159 (Link to this contribution)

They would advocate in exactly the same way as they do currently in Scotland. There is no statuto...

Lord Higgins | 753 c1160 (Link to this contribution)

I am extremely grateful to my noble friend. Coming to this rather from scratch, can I ask him to ...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 753 c1160 (Link to this contribution)

First of all, the amendment is to an Immigration Bill and is therefore confined to immigration, a...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 753 c1160 (Link to this contribution)

I am very sorry to be adding to the questions, but can the Minister explain how the trial is goin...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 753 cc1160-1 (Link to this contribution)

I think I gave an answer to that, did I not? It may not be necessary. It is not in Scotland, wher...

Lord Wright of Richmond | 753 c1161 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before the Minister sits down, may I raise an entirely separate administrative problem?...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 753 c1161 (Link to this contribution)

I assure noble Lords who have spoken in this debate that I will write to them personally about de...

Lord Cormack | 753 c1161 (Link to this contribution)

Before my noble friend sits down, he said that we will have details in a few days. Does this not ...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 753 c1162 (Link to this contribution)

No, we will not have information on the trials within a few days. We will have information about ...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 753 cc1162-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not doubt the good intentions of the Government. I should like to have seen that l...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 753 c1163 (Link to this contribution)

I do not wish to interrupt the noble and learned Baroness, but I made it quite clear that advocat...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 753 cc1163-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hesitate to disagree with the Minister, but where do the powers come from if there is...

Lord Pannick | 753 cc1164-8 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Pannick

56: Clause 64, page 51, line 29, leave out subsections (1) and ...

Lord Pannick | 753 cc1168-1170 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment stands in my name and in the names of the noble Baroness, Lady Smith of ...

Baroness Pitkeathley | 753 c1169 (Link to this contribution)

I must tell your Lordships that if Amendment 56 is agreed to, I cannot call Amendments 56ZA to 56...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 753 c1169 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it may be helpful if I explain the terms of our amendment at this stage and then come b...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 753 c1169 (Link to this contribution)

Does that mean the Minister will accept that the word “independent” should be in his own amendmen...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 753 c1171 (Link to this contribution)

I have just referred to the “independent reviewer of terrorism legislation”. We see the person un...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 753 c1171 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish to speak to Amendments 56ZA to—

Lord Brown of Eaton-under-Heywood | 753 c1171 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name is on the amendment so I wish to speak to it.

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 753 cc1171-4 (Link to this contribution)

I also have an amendment in the group. I shall speak to Amendments 56ZA to 56ZD in this group. Th...

Lord Brown of Eaton-under-Heywood | 753 cc1173-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that Clause 64 is highly contentious and far from obviously a good idea is perfectly pl...

Baroness O'Loan | 753 cc1175-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I spoke on the first day in Committee but was unable to attend on the day this clause w...

Baroness Hamwee | 753 cc1177-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have Amendments 57A and 57B in this group and share the concerns that have been expre...

Baroness Kennedy of the Shaws | 753 cc1178-1180 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have made a number of speeches on this subject at different stages of the Bill and I ...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 753 cc1179-1182 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was not able to speak in Committee but, briefly, I will make a point that I think has...

Lord Paddick | 753 cc1182-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish to speak mainly to Amendment 56. I apologise to the House that I have not spoken...

Lord Sherbourne of Didsbury | 753 cc1184-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I intervene briefly to support government Amendment 56A and Clause 64 itself. I have fo...

Baroness Berridge | 753 cc1185-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare an interest as a trustee of the think tank British Future and as a member of ...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 753 cc1186-1190 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a powerful debate. I am speaking to the amendment that I have been please...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 753 c1188 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am sorry that the noble Baroness feels that my responses have been inadequate. It is ...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 753 c1188 (Link to this contribution)

At all times the Minister has sought to be courteous and to give as much information as possible....

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 753 cc1188-1191 (Link to this contribution)

I have written a report on every day of this Bill, and I will be writing about today’s debate to ...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 753 c1191 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may just finish my answer. I think that it will be helpful to the noble Baroness if I d...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 753 c1191 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt the Minister but I was not asking whether the independent reviewer would ...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 753 cc1191-2 (Link to this contribution)

I see the point that the noble Baroness is making. I see no reason why not. If it has security co...

Lord Avebury | 753 c1192 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to my noble friend. As he has gone into some detail on Professor Guy Goodwin-G...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 753 c1192 (Link to this contribution)

I will be happy to do that. However, I am conscious that noble Lords have been asking for answers...

Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 753 c1192 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry, but a few minutes ago the Minister said something about obligations under the Europea...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 753 cc1192-4 (Link to this contribution)

I was coming to this. I have been asked a lot of questions and I intend to answer them. The noble...

Lord Pannick | 753 cc1193-5 (Link to this contribution)

I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in this debate, particularly the Minister whose door has ...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 753 cc1195-9 (Link to this contribution)

Tabled by

Lord Taylor of Holbeach

56A: Clause 64, page 52, line 2, at end insert—

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Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 753 c1199 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if the Opposition were prepared to accept Amendment 56A, I should be prepared to move i...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 753 c1199 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am not sure whether the noble Lord has moved his amendment formally but, as the matte...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 753 c1199 (Link to this contribution)

The point that I was trying to make was that, if this were to form part of the substantive Bill, ...

Lord Marlesford | 753 c1199 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Marlesford

57D: After Clause 64, insert the following new Clause—

Lord Marlesford | 753 cc1199-1201 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment is a simple one. Its purpose is to ensure that Her Majesty’s Passport Of...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 753 c1200 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have very little to say on this, as it is not something on which I have a great deal ...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 753 cc1202-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness and, of course, I thank my noble friend Lord Marlesford. He ...

Lord Marlesford | 753 cc1203-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am most grateful to the Minister for what he has said. It does not answer my amendmen...

Lord Avebury | 753 c1204 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Avebury

57E: After Clause 64, insert the following new Clause—

“D...

Lord Avebury | 753 cc1204-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment deals with persons born abroad prior to 1983 who would have been British...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 753 cc1205-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am aware that my noble friend has long campaigned about the citizenship rights of chi...

Lord Avebury | 753 cc1206-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I recognise the Minister’s phrase about not being able to rectify all the wrongs of his...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 753 c1207 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Taylor of Holbeach

58: After Clause 68, insert the following new Clause...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 753 c1207 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Taylor of Holbeach

59: Clause 71, page 56, line 5, at end insert—

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 753 cc1207-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendments in this group are government amendments, responding to the parts of the ...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 753 c1208 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Taylor of Holbeach

60: Clause 71, page 56, line 6, at end insert “or (6...

Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 753 c1209 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Roberts of Llandudno

62: Clause 72, page 56, line 41, at end insert—

Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 753 cc1209-1210 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in speaking to the amendment I will remind noble Lords how it concerns the removals and...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 753 cc1210-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 62 seeks to amend Clause 72 which provides for the commencement provisions in...

Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 753 c1212 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for his response. He is always cheery and helpful, but he has not given me t...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 753 c1212 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Butler-Sloss

62A: Clause 73, page 57, line 7, after “58” insert “, ...

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