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Lords committee stage first day. Clause 1 agreed to as amended. Clauses 2 to 11 agreed to. Schedules 1 and 2 agreed to.

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752 cc1108-1197 

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2013-14

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Home Office

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Legislative scrutiny: Immigration Bill. Human Rights Joint Committee eighth report with formal minutes.
Wednesday, 11 December 2013
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Immigration Bill 2013-14. Brought from the Commons.
Thursday, 30 January 2014
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Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee twenty-second report.
Wednesday, 12 February 2014
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Deposited Paper DEP2014-0359
Monday, 3 March 2014
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Proceeding contributions

Baroness Hamwee | 752 c1108 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

1: Clause 1, page 1, line 10, at end insert “and the Secreta...

Baroness Hamwee | 752 cc1108-1110 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 1, I shall speak also to Amendment 4. The group includes Amendments...


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Baroness O'Loan | 752 cc1109-1111 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish to speak to Amendments 5, 6 and 7 in my name, and in that of the noble Baroness,...

Archbishop of York | 752 cc1111-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there are some very welcome amendments to this Bill, and I will speak shortly to Amendm...

Lord Ramsbotham | 752 cc1112-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak particularly to Amendments 1 and 2 but also to Amendments 4, 5, 6, 7 and ...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 752 c1114 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hesitate to follow such a powerful speech and will speak only briefly because importa...

Earl of Listowel | 752 c1114 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am reminded in this debate of a conversation I had in Yarl’s Wood immigration removal...

Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 752 cc1114-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support everything that has been said by the noble Baroness, Lady Lister, the noble L...

Lord Avebury | 752 cc1115-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I agree with what my noble friend has just been saying, particularly about the failure ...

Lord Rosser | 752 cc1116-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will not at this stage make any comments relating to the extension of enforcement pow...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 752 cc1118-1120 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a welcome start to the Bill. Although we have strayed into some of the su...

Lord Rosser | 752 cc1120-1 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I might ask the Minister a question. The Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 752 c1121 (Link to this contribution)

I think that I have made it clear that the affirmative process is used where there is an opportun...

Lord Rosser | 752 c1121 (Link to this contribution)

Is the Minister saying that the provisions in Clause 1 about what the Government would regard as ...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 752 cc1121-2 (Link to this contribution)

No, the purpose of the changes is to make sure that people who are subject to removal leave volun...

Archbishop of York | 752 c1122 (Link to this contribution)

I still have not understood the Minister’s logic. I appreciate and want to commend the removal of...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 752 c1122 (Link to this contribution)

The purpose of the notice is not to put people under notice as to the exact timing of when they w...

Archbishop of York | 752 c1122 (Link to this contribution)

Is the Minister quite sure about that in the light of what the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham, said ...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 752 c1123 (Link to this contribution)

I can be certain that when people get a decision about the refusal of their right to remain they ...

Lord Rosser | 752 c1123 (Link to this contribution)

How long will those who have been told that they no longer have leave to remain be given to make ...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 752 c1123 (Link to this contribution)

It will be for them to make arrangements with UKVI on the basis of the notice that they have been...

Lord Ramsbotham | 752 c1123 (Link to this contribution)

Following what the most reverend Primate said, perhaps I may say how pleased I was to hear the us...

Baroness Hamwee | 752 cc1123-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the critique of what happens in practice from someone experienced as an inspector has c...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 752 c1124 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wallace of Tankerness

3: Clause 1, page 2, line 16, at end insert—

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Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 752 cc1124-6 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to move the amendment standing in the name of my noble friend Lord Taylor of Holbeach and ...

Baroness Hamwee | 752 cc1125-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I welcome these amendments. There is frequently talk in this House, and rightly so, abo...

Lord Ramsbotham | 752 c1127 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, pay tribute to government Amendments 10, 14 and 15; 10 because of the Independe...

Archbishop of York | 752 c1127 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, welcome this amendment. The noble and right reverend Lord, Lord Williams of Oys...

Lord Judd | 752 c1127 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment is certainly a move in the right direction, but the one anxiety I have i...

Lord Avebury | 752 cc1127-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, these amendments, which are all concerned with the detention and removal of children, e...

Earl of Listowel | 752 cc1129-1130 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Avebury, with whom I had the honour to ...

Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 752 c1130 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there are many things that show exactly what the heart of a nation is. One is the way i...

Baroness Hussein-Ece | 752 cc1130-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I associate myself with the comments that have just been made on this important area by...

Baroness Benjamin | 752 c1131 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I always say that childhood lasts a lifetime, and all children need the best start in l...

Lord Northbourne | 752 c1131 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am not entirely sure that this is an appropriate intervention; if not, I apologise an...

Lord Rosser | 752 c1132 (Link to this contribution)

We welcome the Government’s amendments, which lay down requirements in the Bill in relation to th...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 752 cc1132-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who have taken part in this debate. I acknowledge the ...

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 752 c1134 (Link to this contribution)

I believe it is time for the amendment to be agreed.

Earl Attlee | 752 c1135 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is in order for the noble Lord, Lord Judd, to speak.

Lord Judd | 752 c1135 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to the Minister for his response to my observations on unaccompanied...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 752 c1135 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hear the noble Lord’s point and I think I understand what lies behind it. I was tryin...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 752 cc1135-6 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wallace of Tankerness

9: After Clause 1, insert the following new Claus...

Lord Avebury | 752 c1137 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Avebury

11: After Clause 1, insert the following new Clause—

“Sho...

Lord Avebury | 752 cc1137-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the Minister is aware, we have been concerned about the disgraceful conditions of th...

Archbishop of York | 752 c1138 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I stand again to support this wonderful amendment with its mover. What is going on here...

Lord Ramsbotham | 752 cc1138-1140 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment so ably moved by the noble Lord, Lord Avebury. When I took over...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 752 c1140 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I appreciate the concerns of my noble friend Lord Avebury, the comments of the noble Lo...

Lord Avebury | 752 c1140 (Link to this contribution)

It remains only for me to thank the most reverend Primate the Archbishop of York and the noble Lo...

Lord Rosser | 752 c1141 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Rosser

12: Clause 2, page 2, line 35, at end insert—

“(2) The enf...

Lord Rosser | 752 cc1141-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 12 provides for the enforcement powers provided for in Schedule 1 to be subje...

Archbishop of York | 752 c1142 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 12 provides what I believe to be a necessary safeguard to reassure the public...

Baroness Williams of Crosby | 752 cc1142-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak briefly on Amendment 12. I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Rosser, and t...

Lord Ramsbotham | 752 cc1143-4 (Link to this contribution)

I will speak to Amendment 13, in my name and that of the noble Lord, Lord Roberts.

I am ver...

Lord Avebury | 752 cc1144-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish to say a word or two in support of the amendment. Currently, the use of force by...

Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 752 c1145 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I repeat what I said earlier about the need for proper training and assessment of those...

Archbishop of York | 752 cc1145-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 13 of the noble Lords, Lord Roberts of Llandudno and Lord Ram...

Lord Mawhinney | 752 c1146 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will not take up much of your Lordships’ time because what I had wanted to say was sa...

Baroness Benjamin | 752 c1146 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, many noble Lords have mentioned training for immigration officers. What training do the...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 752 c1146 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it may be proper now to raise a point of detail on Amendment 12 in case the matter is t...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 752 cc1146-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a useful debate because it has enabled me to address a number of issues, ...

Lord Mawhinney | 752 c1148 (Link to this contribution)

I hope that my noble friend will excuse me because I readily acknowledge that he knows much more ...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 752 c1148 (Link to this contribution)

The use of force has to be reasonably exercised. In the case of search, that has to be reasonable...

Lord Mawhinney | 752 c1148 (Link to this contribution)

I assume from what my noble friend said that he will go on to define, as other noble Lords have a...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 752 c1148 (Link to this contribution)

I set out earlier detail on those people who are responsible for oversight in this matter. Indeed...

Baroness Williams of Crosby | 752 cc1148-9 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister concludes his extremely reasonable remarks, may I press him on one point? Tho...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 752 cc1149-1150 (Link to this contribution)

My noble friend Lady Williams of Crosby and the most reverend Primate the Archbishop of York join...

Lord Rosser | 752 c1150 (Link to this contribution)

Is the Minister still looking at what I understand is a code of practice—which the noble Lord, Lo...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 752 c1150 (Link to this contribution)

I think I can reassure the noble Lord, Lord Rosser, by the actions I took following the meeting t...

Lord Rosser | 752 cc1150-1 (Link to this contribution)

I am not entirely sure whether that means the code of practice will see the light of day in any s...

Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 752 c1151 (Link to this contribution)

Before my noble friend the Minister sits down, can he tell me how many employees of these compani...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 752 c1151 (Link to this contribution)

I did feel rather comfortable until the noble Lord suggested that I had not yet sat down. I canno...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 752 cc1151-3 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Taylor of Holbeach

14: Before Clause 3, insert the following new Clause...

Baroness Hamwee | 752 c1153 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

16: Before Clause 3, insert the following new Clause—

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Baroness Hamwee | 752 cc1153-5 (Link to this contribution)

In moving Amendment 16 I shall speak also to Amendments 20 and 21, and included in this group are...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 752 cc1154-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, although there are other speakers in this debate, I am rising early because I have a nu...

Lord Roberts of Llandudno | 752 c1158 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 17 and 19 about bail. The provisions in our amendments are m...

Lord Harries of Pentregarth | 752 cc1158-9 (Link to this contribution)

I, too, will speak to Amendment 17. When I was the Bishop of Oxford, I had something to do with C...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 752 cc1159-1160 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support these amendments. I should explain that at an earlier stage in my judicial ca...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 752 cc1160-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I cannot claim first-hand experience like other noble Lords, but I went to a meeting ch...

Lord Ramsbotham | 752 c1161 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak briefly on Amendments 17 and 19 in my name and that of the noble Lord, Lor...

Lord Judd | 752 cc1161-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, last Thursday in the Moses Room we were debating terrorism. In the context of that deba...

Baroness Williams of Crosby | 752 cc1162-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I very much agree with what has just been said by the noble Lord, Lord Judd, and what w...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 752 cc1163-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the contribution of my noble friend Lady Williams of Crosby is probably a good place to...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 752 c1165 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for addressing the amendment, but he will know that that was not th...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 752 c1166 (Link to this contribution)

I was about to go on to develop the theme based on the noble Baroness’s example. I cannot give an...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 752 c1166 (Link to this contribution)

I think the Minister has missed the point that I made. I was probing not what the exact examples ...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 752 cc1166-7 (Link to this contribution)

I hope that the examples I have given show that these are not trifling matters. Deterioration in ...

Baroness Hamwee | 752 c1167 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, other noble Lords have spoken very effectively about the impact of detention. I will ju...

Lord Rosser | 752 cc1168-1170 (Link to this contribution)

Clause 5 amends Schedule 2 to the Immigration Act 1971 to include persons who are “liable to be d...

Baroness Hamwee | 752 c1170 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, when I looked at Clause 5—“detained” or “liable to be detained”—the question that arose...

Earl Attlee | 752 cc1170-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Clause 5 amends paragraph 18 of Schedule 2 to the Immigration Act 1971 to include perso...

Baroness Hamwee | 752 c1174 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, with regard to Amendment 23, the Minister is of course right that there is a reference ...

Lord Rosser | 752 c1174 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I could add one or two comments. I thank the Minister for his reply and for the amount of...

Earl Attlee | 752 cc1174-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the main justification for Clause 5 is to avoid unnecessarily arresting people and to m...

Lord Rosser | 752 c1175 (Link to this contribution)

Presumably immigration officers would not want to check a person’s fingerprints unless they had s...

Earl Attlee | 752 c1175 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, they would not be able to check fingerprints unless they had some good reason to do so....

Lord Rosser | 752 c1175 (Link to this contribution)

I thought the Minister said that you cannot arrest someone who refuses unless there is some suspi...

Earl Attlee | 752 c1175 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there would indeed be an element of suspicion if someone declined to give their fingerp...

Baroness Hamwee | 752 c1175 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister include an explanation of the statutory basis on which new subsection (1A)(a) c...

Earl Attlee | 752 c1175 (Link to this contribution)

I will be delighted to write to the noble Baroness.

Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 752 c1176 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Hannay of Chiswick

26: Clause 11, page 8, line 30, at end insert—

Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 752 cc1176-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 26 covers ground similar to that covered by an amendment much later in the pr...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 752 c1178 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as a member of the Joint Committee on Human Rights, I speak in particular to Amendment ...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 752 cc1178-1181 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak to our Amendments 27 to 29, and to the question that the clause stand part of t...

Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 752 c1181 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish to support the arguments put forward by the noble Lord, Lord Hannay, by recallin...

Lord Lea of Crondall | 752 cc1181-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the first amendment in this group, in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Hannay...

Baroness Hamwee | 752 cc1183-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have Amendment 80 in this group. I was prompted to table it following the discussions...

Lord Tugendhat | 752 cc1184-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I very much agree with everything that the noble Lord, Lord Hannay, said and I am delig...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 752 cc1185-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I endorse what the noble Lord, Lord Tugendhat, just said and what the noble Lord, Lord ...

Bishop of St Albans | 752 cc1186-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if I may, I will just add a brief comment on precisely that amendment. Some years ago I...

Baroness Benjamin | 752 c1187 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendment 80, to which I have put my name, as I believe we need to f...

Baroness Williams of Crosby | 752 cc1187-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the hour is late and there is much to say, but I will be brief in my remarks. Let me be...

Lord Clement-Jones | 752 cc1189-1190 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall briefly add my support to both Amendment 26 and my noble friend’s Amendment 80....

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 752 cc1190-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been an important and interesting debate. It is really about appeals, but I un...

Lord Clement-Jones | 752 c1192 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps my noble and learned friend can tell us what the figures for Indian students are.

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 752 c1192 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, disappointingly the figures for India have gone down and there may be some historical b...

Lord Lea of Crondall | 752 c1193 (Link to this contribution)

Does this not demonstrate the value of having some independent statistics on what you might call ...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 752 c1193 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord is suggesting that these figures are anecdotal, but in respect of the countries I ...

Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 752 c1193 (Link to this contribution)

I honestly think that we had better call the day on this selective quotation of statistics. Why c...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 752 c1193 (Link to this contribution)

I did not seek to dismiss this as a statistical matter. I sought to put it into some kind of cont...

Baroness Hamwee | 752 cc1193-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I accept that and I knew that much of what I was seeking was already published. My amen...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 752 cc1194-6 (Link to this contribution)

My noble friend makes a valid point. We collectively need to think about how to tell a good story...

Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 752 cc1196-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will be very brief because the noble Lord, Lord Singh, and others who are involved in...

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