Transparency of Lobbying, Non-Party Campaigning and Trade Union Administration Bill
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Moved by
Lord Harries of Pentregarth
34: Clause 26, page 12, line 45, at end insert—<...
My Lords, before I focus on the first amendment—
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May I assist the noble and right reverend Lord, Lord Harries? We allow some latitude, of course, ...
I thank the noble Baroness very much.
Before I focus on the first amendment in this group, ...
My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Gardiner of Kimble, for the unfailing courtesy in...
Before the noble and learned Lord sits down, can he emphasise that the cost of production include...
Given that the definition I have quoted refers to “production of material”, I assume that that ma...
My Lords, I very much hope that the comments made by the noble and learned Lord, Lord Morris, wil...
My Lords, I have two amendments in this group. In preparing my notes, I had intended to say preci...
My Lords, my name is added to Amendments 34 and 40 in this group, which I support. To my mind, Cl...
My Lords, I support Amendment 35 in the names of my friend the noble and learned Lord, Lord Morri...
My Lords, first, I thank the noble and right reverend Lord, Lord Harries, for welcoming the amend...
My Lords, I join the noble and right reverend Lord, Lord Harries, in thanking the Government for ...
My Lords, first, I thank those who have contributed to this debate, in particular those who have ...
Surely the Minister accepts that if an organisation—say, the NSPCC—requires a leaflet to be put o...
My Lords, as I have indicated, we thought that the amendment that the noble Lord, Lord Wigley, ha...
I thank the noble and learned Lord. It is obvious to me that, in accordance with the definition o...
My Lords, I do not think that there is really all that much between our position and what has bee...
I am encouraged by that. I hope that, if I do not press my amendment, we will return to the matte...
That is indeed what I had in mind. Time may be short, but I think that we can have some useful en...
I have thought of a question while the Minister has been speaking, which is not in any way divers...
My Lords, I always know it to be dangerous when the noble Lord stands up and says he has been thi...
I thank all noble Lords who spoke in favour of my amendments and the other amendments to which my...
The noble and right reverend Lord indicated, when referring to what my noble friend Lord Horam ha...
I accept that there are certainly implications for what might happen at local level. However, I a...
Tabled by
Lord Morris of Aberavon
35: Clause 26, page 13, line 19, at end insert—
...My Lords, I welcome the promise of a discussion with Ministers before Third Reading and if a sati...
Moved by
Lord Phillips of Sudbury
36: Clause 26, page 13, line 19, at end insert—
...My Lords, first, I should like to say how good it is to see the other Lord Wallace—my noble frien...
I am grateful to my noble friend because I shared his confusion about that missive last night. I ...
I am grateful for that. My noble friend is lucky in having had a letter. When I finished the conv...
I am fortunate enough to have the original letter before me. I wonder what the noble Lord makes o...
My Lords, the noble and right reverend Lord, Lord Harries, is actually addressing a different iss...
I was minded to vote for the amendment, but, having read the letter twice now, does the noble Lor...
My Lords, that is, on the face of it, a compelling argument. However, I am trying to put it to th...
Which it has not done.
Which, of course, it has not done. I suspect the reason is that when the person I was speaking to...
I am very grateful. Of course, I was also minded to support my noble friend. However, time is at ...
My Lords, I am in a cleft stick; I have indeed got 15 minutes on the Clock, but my noble friend w...
Not only the Charity Commission opposes this amendment; the Electoral Commission does, too. Also,...
I certainly will. I am grateful for that point, because I was going to say that a review of this ...
It is a government amendment.
It is now a government amendment, so we are going to get it—and that is vital because we will lea...
My Lords, I am extremely well aware that the Charity Commission has given us a document to say th...
Before the noble and learned Lord sits down, I have a question about the e-mail from the Charity ...
The reason that that is a difficulty is because it cannot be relied upon to enforce the law. Ther...
Does the noble and learned Lord not accept that the Electoral Commission has come out exceedingly...
I understand that, but I do not understand why they have come out against it, because it must be ...
My Lords, my name is added to this amendment and I do support it, but I think that we have been s...
My Lords, I think that I shall go with the suggestion that we defer debate on this until Third Re...
Perhaps the House will allow me just a couple of minutes to put the opposing point of view to the...
I thank the noble and right reverend Lord for giving way. Does he not agree that to be caught by ...
The whole point of those provisions, which is where the sting is, is that you can campaign on and...
I am grateful to the noble and right reverend Lord for giving way, but he really cannot get away ...
Then why does the Charity Commission guidance—and I have read carefully both its main guidance an...
I am grateful to the noble and right reverend Lord and I apologise for intervening again, but doe...
My Lords, I take the point but it was important to state the argument because some people are und...
The NCVO has taken up—
My Lords, with the greatest respect, we are really getting beyond the guidance in the Companion r...
My Lords, I will take three minutes; I am not going into technicalities and I freely admit I am g...
My Lords, with due respect to the House, as I have not spoken on this, a number of the noble Lord...
My Lords, that being said, I will speak quickly and shortly to say that, while we absolutely unde...
My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lord Phillips for raising the important issue of charities and ...
I am sorry to intervene on the noble and learned Lord, but does he not agree that the test is onl...
My Lords, I can do no better than remind your Lordships of Clause 26, which states that,
“t...
Is my noble and learned friend saying, as a law officer of the Crown, that it is lawful for a cha...
My Lords, that has been the legal position since 2000. It is very rare that it would happen but, ...
My Lords, I am grateful to my noble and learned friend the Minister for the way in which he summe...
Moved by
Lord Wallace of Tankerness
37: Clause 26, page 13, line 20, at end insert—
Moved by
Lord Wallace of Tankerness
39: After Clause 26, insert the following new Cla...
My Lords, Amendment 39 relates to arrangements between third parties notified to the Electoral Co...
As my noble and learned friend Lord Wallace has said, I and the noble and right reverend Lord, Lo...
I, too, thank the noble and learned Lord, Lord Wallace, for the government amendment, which is a ...
My Lords, I intervene very briefly. I tabled an amendment on coalition working and I am very grat...
I, too, welcome the government amendments and repeat something that I have said on earlier occasi...
My Lords, I detect self-restraint in the House at the moment, and I know that we need to move on ...
My Lords, I rise briefly to support Amendment 39A and, in doing so, very much welcome Amendment 3...
My Lords, I expressed appreciation for those who have welcomed Amendment 39, not least my noble f...
Moved by
Lord Wallace of Tankerness
41: Schedule 3, page 57, line 9, leave out “other...
Moved by
Lord Harries of Pentregarth
45: Schedule 3, page 57, line 14, at end insert—...
My Lords, this amendment is very important for campaigning groups and charities, but I can move i...
My Lords, I strongly support the noble and right reverend Lord, Lord Harries, on this amendment. ...
My Lords, I have attended a number of meetings which the noble and right reverend Lord, Lord Harr...
My Lords, the inclusion of staffing costs is hugely burdensome for large and small campaigning or...
My Lords, I thank the noble and right reverend Lord, Lord Harries, for his amendment, because I, ...
I am disappointed with the noble and learned Lord’s reply. This was a very simple step that the G...
Moved by
Lord Wallace of Tankerness
46: Clause 27, page 14, line 42, leave out subsec...
My Lords, one of the aspects of the Bill that has received considerable attention and debate duri...
My Lords, before speaking to the amendment in my name, I thank the Government and the noble and l...
I have a separate amendment in this group. We all welcome the way in which my noble friend Lord W...
Will the noble Lord not agree with me that there would be more logic in having a figure that was ...
My noble friend is right. He and I have relatively recent experience of these things. The normal ...
My Lords, Amendment 46A in my name concerns the spending cap for England. First I would like, on ...
My Lords, I will add just a few words to what I said a few minutes ago. I fought 12 general elect...
My Lords, when at these debates, I have always felt that not enough attention is paid to the real...
My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have contributed to this debate. I express particular appre...
Whether it is £9,000 or £19,000, my general point is that I have been unable to find anything in ...
My Lords, I do not think that there is an anomaly. One of the reasons for putting in the registra...
I was going to say that I would not add such an adjective. The noble and learned Lord will rememb...
My Lords, I was going to say that I was aware that the noble and learned Lord had also tabled an ...
The noble and learned Lord is correct; it was a mistake on my part, I should have said £12,000. T...
My Lords, we recognised the core expenditure that was needed in Scotland, Wales and Northern Irel...
Moved by
Lord Wallace of Tankerness
47: Clause 27, page 15, line 3, leave out from “s...
Moved by
Lord Wallace of Tankerness
49: Clause 28, page 15, line 29, leave out from “...
Moved by
Lord Tyler
52: Clause 28, page 16, line 22, leave out from “if” to end of li...
My Lords, this amendment, which I am moving on behalf of a number of noble Lords in different par...
I support the amendment for the reasons that the noble Lord has set out. Constituency limits have...
My Lords, an amendment that can produce a joint letter from the National Secular Society and the ...
My Lords, we also strongly support the amendment. It is not the provision’s intention that we hav...
My Lords, we have just had a discussion on constituency limits, and it was also covered extensive...
My Lords, I am rather disappointed by that. Throughout today’s debate and, indeed, on previous oc...
I beg to move that further consideration on Report be now adjourned. In moving this Motion, I sug...
Moved by
Lord Harries of Pentregarth
52A: Clause 28, page 16, line 31, leave out “0.0...
My Lords, Amendment 52A concerns constituency spending limits. It proposes that the spending limi...
My Lords, we have Amendment 62A in this group. In order that the notes in reply can be thrown awa...
My Lords, the noble and right reverend Lord, Lord Harries of Pentregarth, has tabled an amendment...
My Lords, I can well appreciate the noble and learned Lord’s answer to that. The issue that is co...
Moved by
Lord Wallace of Tankerness
53: Clause 28, page 16, leave out lines 34 to 45<...
Moved by
Lord Wallace of Tankerness
63: Clause 29, page 20, line 13, leave out ““the ...
Moved by
Lord Wallace of Tankerness
66: Clause 30, page 24, line 32, leave out “94B(4...
Moved by
Lord Gardiner of Kimble
68: Clause 31, page 24, line 39, at end insert—
<...My Lords, Clause 31 seeks to require registered third parties to identify members of their body, ...
My Lords, I will detain the House only for a moment to thank my noble friend and the Government v...
Moved by
Lord Wallace of Tankerness
69: Clause 31, page 25, line 2, after “(ia)” inse...
Moved by
Lord Wallace of Tankerness
74: Clause 32, page 25, line 34, leave out “Subje...
My Lords, these amendments address concerns raised by noble Lords in Committee and by campaigning...
My Lords, I welcome this group of amendments. I said at Second Reading that the Government and, i...
My Lords, I add my thanks to those of my noble friend Lord Tyler, particularly for Amendments 81 ...
My Lords, while I welcome the government amendments, I draw the attention of the House to the rep...
My Lords, I, too, welcome the amendments that have been put forward by the Government, as far as ...
My Lords, I acknowledge the welcome that has been expressed for these amendments, which lift a co...
Moved by
Lord Wallace of Tankerness
75: Clause 32, page 25, line 36, leave out “quali...
Moved by
Lord Wallace of Tankerness
98: After Clause 32, insert the following new Cla...
Moved by
Lord Wallace of Tankerness
99: Schedule 4, page 60, leave out lines 7 to 9
Moved by
Lord Wallace of Tankerness
108: Clause 33, page 33, line 28, leave out from ...
Moved by
Lord Wallace of Tankerness
117: After Clause 34, insert the following new Cl...
My Lords, government Amendment 117 would exclude personal expenses from being considered for the ...
My Lords, I simply give the amendment a warm welcome. We previously discussed this with the noble...
Moved by
Lord Gardiner of Kimble
118: After Clause 35, insert the following new Claus...
My Lords, government Amendment 118 requires that within 12 months of the Bill receiving Royal Ass...
I congratulate the Government on having brought this forward. It is really important, because so ...
My Lords, I will not trespass on the delicate field of remuneration; but I would like to congratu...
It is a great relief to be able to welcome an amendment without any qualification at all; but it ...
I very much welcome the initiative that my noble friends have taken on this. It is vastly prefera...
Briefly, I add my congratulations and thanks. Those who criticise—and I have been very critical o...
My Lords, we, too, warmly welcome this amendment and the fact that there will be a review, and th...
My Lords, I am most grateful for what has been a short but quite buoyant debate. It is important ...
Moved by
Lord Campbell-Savours
119: After Clause 35, insert the following new Clause—...
My Lords, in moving Amendment 119, I shall speak also to Amendment 119A. We had a long debate on ...
My Lords, I have added my name to this amendment because it is a very modest and necessary step t...
My Lords, my name is also on the amendment. I will make a slightly different point from those of ...
I feel deeply privileged to belong to such a broad church as is suggested by this amendment. I li...
My Lords, I have always believed that public life is a vocation. I greatly regret the decline in ...
I will finish in one second. As one of our colleagues pointed out, this does not confuse politica...
I have fought long and hard about the point the noble Lord has just made. The difficulty is this:...
Of course—I was going to say “my noble friend”, but he is my friend—the noble Lord may well be ri...
I am very grateful to my noble friend and I know that he shares with me the same objectives. I th...
Of course we are permitted to do that, but at the same time it is not unreasonable to talk about ...
My Lords, I apologise to the noble Lord, but I am very conscious of the Companion and I am very c...
I was just about to sit down anyhow.
My reason for having supported the noble Lord in Committee and again tonight is that if, like me,...
My Lords, I rise very briefly to support the amendment in the name of my noble friend Lord Campbe...
My Lords, I am sorry to be the sad spectre at the feast. I am grateful to my noble friend for the...
My Lords, perhaps I may reassure the noble Baroness, Lady Royall, that she is not the sole spectr...
My Lords, I shall push my amendment to the vote. I thank all those who contributed in a most pass...
Moved by
Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts
119ZA: After Clause 35, insert the following ...
My Lords, after the fireworks, we return to the meat and potatoes. This amendment returns us to a...
My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Hodgson, certainly raises a very important point, which I am glad ...
I am happy to have added my name to the amendment in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Hodgson, fo...
I am glad to add my name to the amendment. I was delighted to hear what my noble friend Lord Hora...
My Lords, this will be my shortest contribution through the whole length of this Bill, as I hope ...
My Lords, I am glad that the noble Lord, Lord Tyler, made that point about the Charity Commission...
My Lords, my noble friend Lord Hodgson tabled a similar amendment in Committee and brings forward...
My Lords, as it is 10.05 pm I shall be brief. I am very grateful to all those who have spoken in ...
Moved by
Lord Wallace of Tankerness
126: Clause 41, page 49, line 2, at end insert—
My Lords, this is the final group of amendments. There has been much discussion about the regulat...
My Lords, I warmly welcome this shorter regulatory period for the 2015 election, for the reasons ...
My Lords, following on immediately from what the noble and right reverend Lord was saying about t...
I did not actually respond to anything that my noble friend said, so there was no commitment. I s...
My Lords, I am grateful for that clarification but I very much hope that, having spoken to the El...
Moved by
Lord Wallace of Tankerness
127: Clause 41, page 49, line 6, at end insert—
Moved by
Lord Wallace of Tankerness
128: Clause 42, page 49, line 32, leave out “regu...
Moved by
Lord Wallace of Tankerness
135: Clause 43, page 50, line 43, at end insert—<...