UK Parliament / Open data

Children and Families Bill

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Monday, 11 November 2013, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage tenth day. Clauses 74 and 75 agreed to. Schedule 4 agreed to as amended.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

749 cc187-250GC 

Session

2013-14

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords Grand Committee

Proceeding contributions

Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 749 c187GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if there is a Division in the Chamber while we are sitting, the Committee will adjourn ...

Lord Storey | 749 c187GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Storey

224: After Clause 73, insert the following new Clause—

“Pa...


Show all contributions (80)
Lord Storey | 749 cc187-8GC (Link to this contribution)

This is a model of how amendments can be dealt with. The ministerial team have gone to great leng...

Lord Nash | 749 c188GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it may be helpful to the Committee if, at this point, I outline the government amendmen...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 749 cc189-190GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am speaking to Amendment 224, to which we have added our names, and to Amendments 225...

Baroness Tyler of Enfield | 749 cc190-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak to Amendment 224, to which my name is attached. I will also make some comments ...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 749 cc191-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I add my congratulations to the Government on producing their amendment, which is a sig...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 749 cc192-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, no one can be anything but absolutely delighted at the government amendment. I, too, wa...

Earl of Listowel | 749 cc193-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will briefly follow what my noble friend has said in terms of the practical implement...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 749 c194GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I join in the praise for the Government on taking this issue very seriously indeed. The...

Lord Nash | 749 cc194-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friends Lord Storey and Lady Tyler, and the noble Baronesses, Lady Hug...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 749 c198GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will press the Minister on one thing. He has clearly not referred to governing bodies...

Lord Nash | 749 c198GC (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness, Lady Howe, has raised an important point. As she probably knows, school gover...

Lord Storey | 749 c198GC (Link to this contribution)

I beg leave to withdraw Amendment 224.

Baroness Massey of Darwen | 749 c198GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Massey of Darwen

231: After Clause 73, insert the following new Cla...

Baroness Massey of Darwen | 749 cc198-201GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I ask Members of the Committee to allow me to remain seated while I move my amendment b...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 749 cc201-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 232(Rev) and 233 as this might help with the subsequent deba...

Baroness Walmsley | 749 cc203-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Committee is about to hear from the Lib Dems because I was delighted to add my name...

Lord Cormack | 749 cc205-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am delighted to have been tempted into the Committee by the noble Baroness, Lady Mass...

Baroness Kidron | 749 cc207-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare my interest as a film maker because it is in that capacity that I have spent ...

Bishop of Oxford | 749 c209GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I also would like to speak briefly in support of Amendment 233, which was so ably and v...

Baroness Tyler of Enfield | 749 cc209-210GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, briefly, I lend my support to all three amendments. In their different ways they are de...

Lord Northbourne | 749 cc210-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my Amendment 57, which had a great deal of support earlier on in this Committee, was on...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 749 cc211-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I go back a long way on the whole business of citizenship, which is what I shall call i...

Baroness Perry of Southwark | 749 c212GC (Link to this contribution)

I am sure that we are all very happy to bring this fascinating discussion to a close, but I want ...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 749 c212GC (Link to this contribution)

Since the noble Baroness has just mentioned my name, I will say one sentence. I absolutely agree ...

Earl of Listowel | 749 cc212-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, following what has just been said, the strongest reason for making PSHE statutory has b...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 749 c213GC (Link to this contribution)

Can I come back briefly on that? The noble Earl has underlined the point we were making: addressi...

Lord Storey | 749 cc213-5GC (Link to this contribution)

First, I welcome the very clever amendment in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Massey. Someti...

Baroness Benjamin | 749 cc215-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, support these amendments and congratulate the noble Baroness, Lady Massey, on h...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 749 cc216-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hesitate to speak after such a powerful speech, but I want to make three brief points...

Lord Nash | 749 cc217-221GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we agree about so much here. Everything that noble Lords have mentioned is what a good ...

Lord Cormack | 749 c221GC (Link to this contribution)

Will my noble friend amplify that point? He very kindly said that he would be glad to convene a m...

Baroness Warnock | 749 c221GC (Link to this contribution)

Can the Minister answer the point made by my noble friend Lord Listowel about the ways in which t...

Lord Nash | 749 c222GC (Link to this contribution)

We have great concerns about the quality of teacher training in this country, which is one of the...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 749 c222GC (Link to this contribution)

I just want to correct what I believe to be a misunderstanding about what Amendment 232(Rev) says...

Earl of Listowel | 749 cc222-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend for raising the point about the training of teachers. ...

Lord Northbourne | 749 c223GC (Link to this contribution)

About a year ago, I wrote to the noble Lord’s predecessor, the noble Lord, Lord Hill, on this poi...

Lord Nash | 749 c223GC (Link to this contribution)

I can confirm that that is still the position.

Baroness Massey of Darwen | 749 cc223-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his responses and will come on to those later. Meanwhile, I si...

Earl of Listowel | 749 c224GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

The Earl of Listowel

234: After Clause 73, insert the following new Clause—<...

Earl of Listowel | 749 cc224-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendment would ensure that all care leavers, including young asylum seekers and mi...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 749 cc226-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name is added to this amendment. I would like to speak particularly about young peop...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 749 cc227-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish to speak briefly in support of the amendment, and I am very pleased that it has ...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 749 cc228-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support this amendment. Noble Lords will recall that I talked about a similar group o...

Bishop of Oxford | 749 c229GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is an important amendment. The Refugee Children’s Consortium, a coalition of more ...

Countess of Mar | 749 c229GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, for 21 years I was a lay member of the Immigration Appeal Tribunal. I used to hate it w...

Earl of Listowel | 749 c229GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I understand that the way adults in this situation are treated is to wait until there i...

Baroness Northover | 749 cc230-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Earl, Lord Listowel, the noble and learned Baroness, Lady Butler-Slos...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 749 c231GC (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for interrupting the noble Baroness. Can she give us the timing of the study in relat...

Baroness Northover | 749 cc231-2GC (Link to this contribution)

The report should come through in February. It will inform what the Government might or might not...

Baroness Butler-Sloss | 749 c232GC (Link to this contribution)

The Refugee Children’s Consortium and the Children’s Society do not think that trafficked childre...

Baroness Northover | 749 c232GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble and learned Baroness for that. I am sure that my colleagues here will take that...

Earl of Listowel | 749 c232GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for her sympathetic and careful response. I was particularly pleas...

Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 749 cc232-3GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hughes of Stretford

235: Before Clause 74, insert the following new...

Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 749 cc233-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendments 235 and 236 would simply place in the Bill the current permitted staff/child...

Earl of Listowel | 749 cc235-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am one of the Peers who is concerned about the government proposals to change the rat...

Baroness Walmsley | 749 c236GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, not for the first time the noble Earl, Lord Listowel, has hit the nail right on the hea...

Baroness Northover | 749 c236GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I can assure the noble Baroness, Lady Hughes, that as a mother I would never regard chi...

Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 749 c236GC (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness is correct. However, I would like her to acknowledge that we did not try to in...

Baroness Northover | 749 c237GC (Link to this contribution)

I think that the noble Baroness understands why it makes sense that they are there.

Noble L...

Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 749 cc237-8GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness for her response and the noble Earl, Lord Listowel, and the noble Baro...

Baroness Morgan of Ely | 749 c238GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Morgan of Ely

237: Clause 74, page 51, line 10, at beginning insert...

Baroness Morgan of Ely | 749 cc238-240GC (Link to this contribution)

I will speak, on behalf of my noble friends Lady Jones and Lady Hughes, to Amendments 237, 239 an...

Baroness Walmsley | 749 cc240-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have considerable concerns about this clause, which is why I have given notice of my ...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 749 cc241-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to ask the Minister how the vision and the application of this proposal will wor...

Earl of Listowel | 749 cc242-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I welcome the noble Baroness, Lady Morgan of Ely, to the Grand Committee. It is very he...

Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 749 c243GC (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister answer two questions given that the statement of policy intention talks about t...

Lord Nash | 749 cc243-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to speak to the group of amendments including Clause 74 stand part, Amendm...

Baroness Walmsley | 749 c244GC (Link to this contribution)

Can my noble friend the Minister answer my question about whether the assessment of the pilots wi...

Lord Nash | 749 cc244-6GC (Link to this contribution)

I will attempt to answer that question in a minute. All the organisations I mentioned are getting...

Baroness Walmsley | 749 c246GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before the noble Baroness, Lady Morgan, withdraws her amendment, as I assume she will, ...

Baroness Morgan of Ely | 749 cc246-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for addressing some of those issues. I would like to pick up on a ...

Earl of Listowel | 749 c247GC (Link to this contribution)

What would stop the Government from injecting funds into local authorities to enable them to buil...

Lord Nash | 749 c247GC (Link to this contribution)

I will take that away. My first thought would be that we have not got any money at the moment. Se...

Lord Nash | 749 cc247-8GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Nash

240A: Schedule 4, page 175, line 21, at end insert—

“( ) Reg...

Baroness Walmsley | 749 cc248-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is a probing amendment because we now have a very new and different Ofsted framewo...

Baroness Northover | 749 cc249-250GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the aim of this clause is to enable early years providers to request and pay for a rein...

Baroness Walmsley | 749 c250GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend for her reply. As I said at the outset, this is a probing debate. The Min...

Back to top