National Security Bill

Of course I will.

I am very grateful. I was waiting for that little phrase—I hoped it might come up. Some of us are...

I know from our time together in the Foreign Affairs Committee of not just the hon. Gentleman’s i...

The Parliamentary Security Director is particularly concerned about, for example, the all-party p...

The hon. Gentleman is right to refer to what we, as a House, need to do for our country to preser...

I understand that there will be a programme in Northern Ireland tomorrow night that confirms what...

I thank my hon. Friend for his incredibly important question. The Bill will cover aspects of host...

I do not think that anybody would question the Home Secretary’s commitment to the safety that she...

My right hon. Friend is absolutely right. That is why the Bill has been constructed in a sensitiv...

May I also pay tribute to the agencies? When I saw all those people on the Mall, I thought, “My g...

The hon. Lady is right that the protection of whistleblowers is vital. I will be frank: we need t...

I do not want to dwell too much on whistleblowers, but the Bill does not address the Official Sec...

I will answer the right hon. Gentleman’s question very specifically. He is right about the public...

I am grateful to the Secretary of State for taking a further intervention on this point. Three of...

Let me say for the assurance of all colleagues in the House: absolutely, we need to find the righ...

I am at a bit of a loss to understand why the Government have not brought forward reform of the 1...

The right hon. Gentleman will appreciate that, whether that is the view of the Law Commission or ...

I, too, am a little mystified at why the Home Secretary is not seeking to reform all the Official...

Without pre-empting the work that is taking place in Government right now, I want to give that as...

I am extremely grateful to my right hon. Friend; I know she wants to move on from this subject an...

I do not disagree at all with my right hon. and learned Friend. I see my former colleague and for...

Does my right hon. Friend agree that it is important that we address the role of big social media...

I thank my hon. Friend, who has been leading the way through the Digital, Culture, Media and Spor...

I thank the Secretary of State for all the work she is doing on this issue. On the foreign lobbyi...

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. He has touched on lobbying, as just one example, but we could...

I am listening carefully to what the Home Secretary is saying, but why is there not in the Bill t...

Our intention is to bring forward foreign agent registration and it will be brought forward in th...

I welcome my right hon. Friend’s commitment because the foreign influence registration scheme is ...

My hon. Friend makes an important point. These changes and measures are not straightforward. I ca...

I think I heard the right hon. Lady give us a commitment that the provisions will be introduced i...

That is exactly what I said.

While these considerations are important, we should also refle...

I am curious about the use of the word “prejudicial”, which I reread several times this morning, ...

Definitions are important, of course, but on a case-by-case basis much of the work will link to t...

This part of the Bill is particularly welcome because it recognises that individuals have a duty ...

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. In this specific case, the point about individuals with malig...

As we go about our often quite routine duties as Members of Parliament dealing with some quite br...

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. Other hon. Members who intervened earlier in this debate spok...

I have a quick question on that. What does the Secretary of State make of Confucius Institutes, a...

My hon. Friend makes an important point. With this whole culture, and it is a culture, of coverin...

On the disinformation point, we know that the Russian state and other states have used disinforma...

Importantly, this is where we need to join up both ends of the legislation. That is absolutely vi...

On foreign influences, why does the Bill cover someone who “intends” to have a negative impact? E...

At the end of the day, we are focused on individuals who are trying to do harm to our country. I ...

I am extremely grateful to the Home Secretary, who I know is trying to move to a peroration. On t...

My right hon. Friend makes an important point. Of course, that is the whole purpose of legislatio...

When my right hon. Friend and I were first elected, she will remember that terrorism prevention a...

I look forward to many debates with my hon. Friend on this issue. When it comes to TPIMs, there h...

I understand the point that my right hon. Friend is trying to make on this issue, but I urge her ...

I thank my hon. Friend for his intervention on this very point. This is an area of great interest...

I call the shadow Home Secretary.

6 pm

The Labour Opposition support the Second Reading of the Bill, and we support measures to protect ...

I thank the right hon. Lady for referring to those who keep us safe. Coming from Northern Ireland...

The hon. Member is absolutely right. The work done by those across our intelligence and security ...

As ever on these matters, the right hon. Lady is making a compelling speech. Given what she has s...

I say clearly that our national security needs to be taken seriously by everybody. It should not ...

Will the right hon. Lady condemn the WikiLeaks-type mass dumping of information in the public dom...

Yes, I strongly do, because some of the examples of such leaks that we have seen put agents’ live...

Notwithstanding what the right hon. Lady just said, would she and her party support a narrowly an...

The hon. and learned Lady makes a really important point. In its consideration of these issues, t...

The right hon. Lady makes an important point about the foreign agents registration scheme. Will s...

I would certainly be happy to have further discussions through the usual channels about the way i...

With all due regard to my hon. Friend the Member for Wycombe (Mr Baker), a much better approach w...

As I have said, these debates will rightly take place through the usual channels to ensure that w...

Like my right hon. Friend, I am not clear what the Home Secretary’s timetable is for reviewing th...

My right hon. Friend makes an important point, and he obviously speaks with the Intelligence and ...

If I understand correctly—perhaps my right hon. Friend the Member for New Forest East (Dr Lewis) ...

The hon. Member makes an important point about other potential gaps. I would be keen to discuss w...

The right hon. Lady is making a good point about oversight and checks and balances. She mentioned...

There is a very strong case for having the same independent commissioner to cover espionage and t...

I call the Chair of the Intelligence and Security Committee, Dr Julian Lewis.

6.31 pm

It is certainly encouraging to hear such sombre but sensible contributions from both senior Front...

indicated assent.

I am receiving indications that I may hear something in the summing-up speech, so I shall live in...

I absolutely support what my right hon. Friend says about the 1989 Act, section 1(1) of which sta...

There is such a distinction. One could certainly argue that it is a graver offence for someone en...

It is a pleasure to follow the right hon. Member for New Forest East (Dr Lewis), the Chair of the...

On that particular point, is it not more perplexing that there is the carve-out of removing the a...

My hon. Friend makes an important point, which we will have to look at. There are other provision...

As usual, my hon. Friend is giving a considered speech and I support everything that he has said ...

Yes, absolutely. The versions of such an amendment that I have seen look very promising and we wo...

As a member of the Intelligence and Security Committee, I very much welcome the Bill. The first d...

I am pleased to be speaking in this debate as one of the newer members of the Intelligence and Se...

It is a pleasure to follow my fellow new member of the Intelligence and Security Committee, the h...

I congratulate my right hon. and learned Friend on his recent honour, and I share some of his con...

As I say, I can understand the logic of the Government’s position when it comes to the restrictio...

It is a pleasure to follow the right hon. and learned Member for Kenilworth and Southam (Sir Jere...

The right hon. Gentleman is making some very good points. I rather imagine that the damage that c...

I would not want to go anywhere near what is in the hon. Gentleman’s imagination. All I can say i...

Does the right hon. Gentleman agree that the Katharine Gun case is a good demonstration? The pros...

The right hon. Gentleman raises an interesting point. Without reform, the courts will define publ...

The right hon. Gentleman is making a valuable point. One of the problems that we have to get to g...

I think transparency is the way to do it. That is why Australia’s Foreign Influence Transparency ...

I disagree slightly with what the right hon. Gentleman is saying, although he is making a very go...

It is, but an active list that has to keep being updated is a problem. I would go broad first. If...

It is a pleasure to speak after the right hon. Member for North Durham (Mr Jones), who in admirab...

My right hon. and learned Friend is making some excellent points—all of which I agree with so far...

I am grateful to my hon. Friend, who speaks with conviction and passion on this issue. She recent...

Before I start properly and give a general welcome to the Bill, I want to make one observation ab...

The right hon. Gentleman is making a very important and valuable point. The Greenham Common peopl...

It is complex, and I am glad that the hon. Gentleman has raised that point, because all the discu...

Let me start by saying that, unusually, I agreed with every word that was said by the right hon. ...

I am very aware of my right hon. Friend’s background. What would he do about oversight of DSF, be...

Can my hon. Friend explain the point?

I am talking about the oversight of the DSF—Director Special Forces. Arguably, at the moment, it ...

My hon. Friend is tempting me into an area in which I will lose all my friends, as he well knows....

My right hon. Friend is covering clauses 24 onwards, on the meaning of foreign power and influenc...

My hon. Friend makes a point about something from which I have scars. I had to go and negotiate w...

Thank you for allowing me to speak on the Bill, Mr Deputy Speaker. I very much welcome the Bill a...

I will not take up too much of the House’s time, but I am delighted to see the Minister in the Ch...

If I may be helpful while my hon. Friend is finding his notes, he makes a compelling case—a case ...

I am delighted that my right hon. Friend interrupted me just as I was fiddling around with my pap...

On that very point, my hon. Friend might want to turn his attention to the Confucius Institutes t...

As ever, my right hon. Friend stays one step ahead of me. We know that the socialist paradise of ...

I see that my hon. Friend is about to finish, and I have just got in in time. I understand his de...

No, my hon. Friend is absolutely right, and that is where the element of judgment comes in. By th...

I apologise to the Home Secretary, who is not in her place, for missing the first 11 minutes of h...

The right hon. Gentleman is making a compelling point, because there are two implications of what...

The right hon. Member puts his finger on precisely the lesson that we should draw from allies suc...

The right hon. Member is, as ever, coming up with some interesting ideas. Are those ideas for thi...

I leave that to the judgment of the House in the debates that we have, but we must make the frame...

Is the right hon. Gentleman aware of the GRU and the Internet Research Agency placing adverts on ...

Perhaps no one in this House has done more than the hon. Gentleman to expose the hybrid warfare a...

On his birthday, last but not least, Steve Baker.

8.42 pm

Thank you very much, Mr Deputy Speaker. It is a wonderful birthday present to rise to support the...

I understand that my hon. Friend is talking about STPIMs, but more generally, does he see the Bil...

My hon. Friend makes his point extremely well, but I hope he will not mind if I say that I do not...

Since the issue of rendition, we have had the consolidated guidance and now we have the principle...

I have read enough of the various documents to know that the right hon. Gentleman is absolutely r...

It is a pleasure to follow the detailed and powerful contribution by the hon. Member for Wycombe ...

National security is the first and foremost responsibility of any Government, and for that reason...

My word, what choice! I will give way to my right hon. and learned Friend the Member for South Sw...

I am extremely grateful to my right hon. Friend. He is right to caution against the danger here, ...

I hear what my right hon. and learned Friend says, and I fully acknowledge not only his legal exp...

Will the Minister give way?

Will the Minister give way?

Yes, and then I can deal with both questions at once.

Will the Minister accept then—this point was made in the debate—that having the independent statu...

I give way to my right hon. Friend the Member for South Holland and The Deepings (Sir John Hayes)...

I am grateful to the Minister. I hear what the right hon. Member for Dundee East (Stewart Hosie) ...

I will come back to my right hon. Friend’s point in a moment. To the point that the right hon. Me...

Will the Minister give way?

If my right hon. and learned Friend will forgive me, I will not.

The existence of a public ...

Will the Minister give way?

I must ask the right hon. Gentleman to forgive me—

Why?

Oh go on then, one last time.

I am intrigued by what the Minister has just said. Which Act will we use? Will we use this new Ac...

Prosecuting authorities have to make judgments. The Bill is specifically about national security,...

Will my right hon. Friend give way? I did ask another question on this point.

I have not finished my speech, but go on.

I am grateful to my right hon. Friend. The other question was, where are these sites, and why are...

I do not think that this is an appropriate forum in which to discuss the detail of such measures,...

As my right hon. Friend knows, I think there is no dispute across the House that some protection ...

My right hon. and learned Friend anticipates my next point to some extent. In instances where an ...

I am grateful to the Minister for giving way, and appreciate the way in which he is stepping thro...

The right hon. Gentleman tempts me to open up a very wide debate, somewhat outside the scope of S...

The Minister will recall that when I asked for a commitment from the Home Secretary about a Commi...

I hear the request from my right hon. Friend. That is a question partly for the business managers...

Will the Minister give way again?

Very briefly.

We have nearly half an hour. I do not know why this Minister is making such a fuss about the urge...

I do not think that I have been blasé in the slightest. I have spent my winding-up remarks trying...

One last time: the Minister has taken a lot of interventions about the matters that are in the Bi...

I am grateful to my right hon. Friend. As I have said, I have heard those points, as, I am sure, ...