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Nuclear Safeguards Bill

Debate on bills on Tuesday, 23 January 2018, in the House of Commons, led by Greg Clark.
Report stage. New clause 1, discussed with new clauses 2 and 3, debated and negatived on division (255 to 294). Amendment 5 to clause 2 debated and negatived on division (254 to 295). Third reading. Agreed to on question. Bill passed.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

635 cc161-225 

Session

2017-19

Legislative stage

Third reading and Report stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Commons chamber
Nuclear Safeguards Bill 2017-19
Wednesday, 11 October 2017
Bills
House of Commons

Proceeding contributions

Alan Whitehead | 635 c161 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 635 cc161-2 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

New clause 2—Purpose—

“The ...


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Alan Whitehead | 635 cc162-3 (Link to this contribution)

The proposed new clauses and amendments appear in my name and those of my hon. Friends the Member...

Stephen Kerr | 635 c163 (Link to this contribution)

The treaty on Euratom membership is part of the set of treaties described in the treaty of Lisbon...

Alan Whitehead | 635 c163 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid that it is not as simple as that. A considerable body of legal opinion states that, b...

Albert Owen | 635 c163 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend is making a strong case for associate membership. He will recall a Westminster Hal...

Alan Whitehead | 635 c163 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend for making that strong point. I recall that even the hon. Member for Stone...

Rebecca Pow | 635 c163 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman has referred to the International Atomic Energy Authority. The Government have...

Alan Whitehead | 635 cc163-4 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady makes the case for our new clause. If the Government are going about their business...

James Heappey | 635 c164 (Link to this contribution)

The shadow Minister knows that he and I often agree on stuff, but I wonder whether today he might...

Alan Whitehead | 635 c164 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, indeed. I suspect that the hon. Gentleman and I are going to agree substantially on this. We...

Richard Graham | 635 c164 (Link to this contribution)

I am puzzled why new clause 1 is necessary. All its ingredients are issues that form part of the ...

Alan Whitehead | 635 cc164-5 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman has slightly got ahead of me, because I started by talking about new clause 2,...

Rachel Maclean | 635 c165 (Link to this contribution)

I accept that there was a vast amount of legal argument on our membership, or not, of Euratom. In...

Alan Whitehead | 635 c165 (Link to this contribution)

I would have thought that the Bill, in whatever form it eventually emerges, demonstrates the oppo...

Richard Graham | 635 c166 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman knows that this is incredibly important to him and several of his colleagues, ...

Alan Whitehead | 635 c166 (Link to this contribution)

That is a little strange in that the Prime Minister referred to transition periods for the overal...

Richard Graham | 635 c166 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, of course we all want a transition period, which is precisely a part of the negotiations. Wh...

Alan Whitehead | 635 c167 (Link to this contribution)

I repeat my suggestion that, because the Bill is about process as much as content, it is importan...

Trudy Harrison | 635 c167 (Link to this contribution)

I feel I must pull up the hon. Gentleman because he has twice referred to Euratom having been aro...

Alan Whitehead | 635 cc167-8 (Link to this contribution)

I was referring to the length of time that we have been a member of Euratom, not the length of ti...

Trudy Harrison | 635 c168 (Link to this contribution)

New clause 1 concerns me, because it seems to me to be a delaying tactic. As I have mentioned, Eu...

Stephen Kerr | 635 c168 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend agree that in the new clause, great uncertainty is built into the very thing—...

Trudy Harrison | 635 c168 (Link to this contribution)

That is exactly my point. This is about certainty and getting on with the job. Not having the Bil...

Rachel Reeves | 635 c168 (Link to this contribution)

I know that the hon. Lady cares hugely about this issue, because it matters a great deal for her ...

Trudy Harrison | 635 c169 (Link to this contribution)

It is not just my constituency, though; this is about the whole country. Today, more than 20% of ...

Rachel Maclean | 635 c169 (Link to this contribution)

As the hon. Member for Leeds West (Rachel Reeves) will know, Dr Golshan said in evidence to the S...

Trudy Harrison | 635 c169 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend. It is important that we hold the Minister and the Department to account, ...

Alex Norris | 635 c169 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady and I were both in the evidence-gathering sitting of the Bill Committee, in which D...

Trudy Harrison | 635 c169 (Link to this contribution)

I have already said that I believe the transition period will happen, as the Prime Minister has i...

Albert Owen | 635 c169 (Link to this contribution)

I want to speak briefly in support of new clause 1. We have debated whether there will be negotia...

Stephen Kerr | 635 c170 (Link to this contribution)

Having sat through a number of evidence sessions with me, as a fellow member of the Business, Ene...

Albert Owen | 635 c170 (Link to this contribution)

I often agree with the hon. Gentleman in the Committee, but I think that he is completely wrong o...

Albert Owen | 635 c170 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, there is. We need to negotiate from a position of clarity and strength, and I do not see us ...

Ben Bradley | 635 c170 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman says that he wants continuity and certainty, but can he not understand the dif...

Albert Owen | 635 c170 (Link to this contribution)

The Government say that we need a transitional period for EU withdrawal, and it is obvious to me ...

James Heappey | 635 c171 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman, like me, will have received the briefing from the Nuclear Industry Associatio...

Albert Owen | 635 c171 (Link to this contribution)

Well, let us clear this up now. I invite the Minister to say on behalf of the Government whether ...

Albert Owen | 635 c171 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure that the hon. Gentleman cannot speak on behalf of the Minister, but I will be intereste...

Richard Graham | 635 c171 (Link to this contribution)

It strikes me as bizarre that the hon. Gentleman and his colleagues are taking their current line...

Albert Owen | 635 c171 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman. He knows me quite well, and I do not think he would accuse m...

Albert Owen | 635 c172 (Link to this contribution)

At this stage, I do not know what will happen, but I am going to find out from the Minister now.<...

Lord Harrington of Watford | 635 c172 (Link to this contribution)

I must apologise for my hesitancy when the hon. Gentleman asked me a question. I was not sure whe...

Albert Owen | 635 c172 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful, because that is helpful, but there is associate membership—it is just in different...

Rachel Reeves | 635 c172 (Link to this contribution)

Like other hon. Members, my hon. Friend has a close constituency interest in this issue. Ukraine ...

Albert Owen | 635 c172 (Link to this contribution)

That is an important point. However, let me repeat that it is not Labour Back Benchers who are as...

James Heappey | 635 c172 (Link to this contribution)

I think that we are all pulling in the same direction, but we need to be careful about the langua...

Albert Owen | 635 c173 (Link to this contribution)

I think the hon. Gentleman is agreeing with me, but we do not know our position or what our start...

Ranil Jayawardena | 635 c173 (Link to this contribution)

Although I have not spoken on the Bill to date, I have been following its progress from afar. I r...

Layla Moran | 635 c173 (Link to this contribution)

I simply say that that is not the Liberal Democrat party’s position, even though Andrew Duff may ...

Ranil Jayawardena | 635 c174 (Link to this contribution)

My life is greatly enhanced by that clarification. Let me turn to another source that the hon. La...

Albert Owen | 635 c174 (Link to this contribution)

Is the hon. Gentleman honestly telling the House that the British public do not want experts from...

Ranil Jayawardena | 635 c174 (Link to this contribution)

Although I like the hon. Gentleman very much and value his contributions to the House, I think he...

Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 635 c174 (Link to this contribution)

I hate to rise to disagree with my hon. Friend, but the British people did not vote to leave Eura...

Ranil Jayawardena | 635 c174 (Link to this contribution)

In disagreeing with me, my right hon. Friend has made my point: specific deals can be done to mak...

Rachel Reeves | 635 c174 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Ranil Jayawardena | 635 cc174-5 (Link to this contribution)

I will make some progress first.

The people we want to see in Britain—those who can contrib...

Rebecca Pow | 635 c175 (Link to this contribution)

Would my hon. Friend give way on that point?

Rebecca Pow | 635 c175 (Link to this contribution)

I knew he would, because my hon. Friend knows that my constituency is adjacent to the enormous ne...

Ranil Jayawardena | 635 cc175-6 (Link to this contribution)

My hon. Friend has guessed what is coming later in my remarks. I will come on to the future, but ...

Rachel Reeves | 635 c176 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure that the hon. Gentleman is aware of this, but I clarify to the House that IAEA standard...

Ranil Jayawardena | 635 cc176-7 (Link to this contribution)

My point about the IEA—I mean the IAEA; what a tongue-twister!—was not about the standards it pro...

Layla Moran | 635 c177 (Link to this contribution)

My constituency lies on the boundary of the Culham centre. The point the staff there are making t...

Ranil Jayawardena | 635 c177 (Link to this contribution)

I will perhaps answer the hon. Lady’s point in a roundabout way. When I visited Switzerland—I sho...

Lord Walney | 635 c178 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to rise to speak in favour of new clause 1. As far as I could follow the argumen...

Lord Walney | 635 c178 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman bored the Chamber senseless for three times as long—by my count—as was necessa...

Lord Walney | 635 c178 (Link to this contribution)

Of course I will give way, as long as the hon. Gentleman does not go on for quite as long as he d...

Ranil Jayawardena | 635 c178 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry if I bored the hon. Gentleman, but he might not have been listening fully.

Lord Walney | 635 cc178-9 (Link to this contribution)

I did try.

I would never accuse the Minister of complacency—he is not a complacent man—and ...

Rebecca Pow | 635 c179 (Link to this contribution)

Might I suggest that the new clause actually seeks to confuse? It appears to specify what should ...

Lord Walney | 635 c179 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Lady may be confused, but we are not, and the industry is not. The industry is strongly ...

Lord Walney | 635 c179 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister looks surprised by that.

Lord Walney | 635 c179 (Link to this contribution)

Well, I hope that when the Minister does come up to Sellafield, he will put his voice and the ful...

Rachel Maclean | 635 c180 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak on this Third Reading debate in the full knowledge that I am not a nuclear expert...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 635 c180 (Link to this contribution)

Order. I should point out to the hon. Lady that this is not the Third Reading debate. We are deal...

Rachel Maclean | 635 cc180-1 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you for that clarification, Madam Deputy Speaker. I shall turn directly to new clause 1. I ...

Drew Hendry | 635 cc181-2 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to be here with the Minister, who is a genial and hard-working man. I know that he...

Stephen Kerr | 635 c182 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman says the Government give no assurance, but the Prime Minister, in her Florence...

Drew Hendry | 635 c182 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Gentleman, like many of his colleagues in Scotland, likes to try to go to a happy place ...

Stephen Kerr | 635 c182 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Drew Hendry | 635 c182 (Link to this contribution)

No, I am going to make some progress.

The UK, as it presses ahead with the folly of Hinckle...

Rebecca Pow | 635 c182 (Link to this contribution)

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Drew Hendry | 635 cc182-4 (Link to this contribution)

No, I am going to make some progress. I may come back to the hon. Lady, but we will have to see.<...

Layla Moran | 635 c184 (Link to this contribution)

The issue is that we are leaving the single market and the customs union. Does the hon. Gentleman...

Drew Hendry | 635 c184 (Link to this contribution)

Without alternative arrangements to allow the free movement of such goods across borders, there w...

Ben Bradley | 635 c184 (Link to this contribution)

I am again a bit disappointed to hear wildly misleading statements from those on the Opposition B...

Stephen Kerr | 635 c184 (Link to this contribution)

The hon. Member for Inverness, Nairn, Badenoch and Strathspey (Drew Hendry) accused Government Me...

Ben Bradley | 635 c185 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my hon. Friend, who will know much more than me about SNP Members and their outlook on li...

Albert Owen | 635 c185 (Link to this contribution)

I understand that the hon. Gentleman is on message, but the message is wrong. The words that I us...

Ben Bradley | 635 cc185-6 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure the Minister will agree that we need to support the industry and that we need to do wha...

Jim Cunningham | 635 c186 (Link to this contribution)

We understand there are certain things the Government cannot say about the negotiations, but ulti...

Ben Bradley | 635 c186 (Link to this contribution)

I do not know the hon. Gentleman’s background, but I guess it probably is not business.

We ...

Alex Norris | 635 cc186-7 (Link to this contribution)

I enjoyed serving on the Public Bill Committee, and I rise to speak in support of new clauses 1 a...

Lord Harrington of Watford | 635 cc187-8 (Link to this contribution)

I thank all Members who have contributed to the debate. Those who have heard our consideration of...

Lord Harrington of Watford | 635 c188 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to give way to the Chair of the Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy Committ...

Rachel Reeves | 635 c188 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister and particularly the Secretary of State for the written ministerial statemen...

Lord Harrington of Watford | 635 cc188-9 (Link to this contribution)

If the hon. Lady will have a bit of patience, I will come to those points, all of which are valid...

Lord Harrington of Watford | 635 c189 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry; I come from Leeds, so I should have known the difference.

The hon. Member for L...

Albert Owen | 635 c189 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister and the Secretary of State for the clarifications they have given t...

Lord Harrington of Watford | 635 c189 (Link to this contribution)

With all due respect to the hon. Gentleman, this quite amuses me, because last week I was berated...

Alan Whitehead | 635 c189 (Link to this contribution)

In the light of what the Minister has just said, will he confirm that in his view an associated s...

Lord Harrington of Watford | 635 cc189-191 (Link to this contribution)

I hope and believe that a very close association to do with nuclear safeguards absolutely will be...

Alan Whitehead | 635 c190 (Link to this contribution)

We will not be pressing any measure to a vote, except for new clause 1, which has been debated in...

Alan Whitehead | 635 c190 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move amendment 1, page 1, line 22, at end insert—

“(c) ensuring that inspections o...

Baroness Winterton of Doncaster | 635 c190 (Link to this contribution)

With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:

Amendment 4, page 2, line 41, lea...

Alan Whitehead | 635 cc196-200 (Link to this contribution)

In speaking to these amendments, I want to draw attention to further events that have taken place...

Stephen Kerr | 635 c200 (Link to this contribution)

I begin by paying tribute to the hon. Member for Southampton, Test (Dr Whitehead). I still consid...

Trudy Harrison | 635 c200 (Link to this contribution)

Does my hon. Friend know that the ONR has already begun the process of recruiting safeguarding in...

Stephen Kerr | 635 cc201-2 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful for that information.

One of the many highlights of the first three months I ...

Drew Hendry | 635 c202 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to have given the hon. Gentleman so much material today. He seems to be fascinated...

Stephen Kerr | 635 c202 (Link to this contribution)

That is interesting editing. I cannot recall word for word exactly what was said before and immed...

Drew Hendry | 635 cc202-3 (Link to this contribution)

As we have heard many times, and as the evidence has borne out, the industry is clearly desperate...

Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 635 c203 (Link to this contribution)

I cannot support the amendments, although I have a great deal of sympathy with the position set o...

Antoinette Sandbach | 635 c204 (Link to this contribution)

Does my right hon. Friend agree that, if there were an opportunity for us to seek some sort of as...

Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 635 c204 (Link to this contribution)

I understand what my hon. Friend is seeking, but the point has already been made that there is in...

Baroness Laing of Elderslie | 635 c204 (Link to this contribution)

Does no one else wish to speak? I call the Minister.

Lord Harrington of Watford | 635 cc204-6 (Link to this contribution)

I am as speechless as you are on this occasion, Madam Deputy Speaker. Maybe hon. Members on both ...

Drew Hendry | 635 c205 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for pointing that out, but can he give us an indication of what pro...

Lord Harrington of Watford | 635 c207 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid that I cannot give the hon. Gentleman that information, not because I do not want to ...

Lord Walney | 635 c207 (Link to this contribution)

I listened carefully to what the Minister has just said, and he seems to be setting up the UK to ...

Lord Harrington of Watford | 635 cc207-8 (Link to this contribution)

No. I do not accept the hon. Gentleman’s version of what I have said. We want a Rolls-Royce stand...

Alan Whitehead | 635 c208 (Link to this contribution)

I have listened carefully to the Minister this afternoon and would like to thank him for the cons...

Greg Clark | 635 cc208-213 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time.

May I begin by thanking right hon....

Lord Walney | 635 c213 (Link to this contribution)

Following the Minister’s earlier answer, I was not entirely clear whether the Government are comm...

Greg Clark | 635 cc213-5 (Link to this contribution)

We have been very clear. We see no problem with the standards that have obtained in Euratom, so o...

Rebecca Long Bailey | 635 cc215-6 (Link to this contribution)

This is an important and necessary Bill, as the Secretary of State confirmed, to ensure that a co...

James Heappey | 635 cc216-8 (Link to this contribution)

I sense that the Bill is accelerating towards the other place, so I will not speak for long. I co...

Drew Hendry | 635 c218 (Link to this contribution)

If power over these issues, as they affect Scotland, were in the purview of the Scottish Parliame...

Trudy Harrison | 635 cc218-220 (Link to this contribution)

The Bill is absolutely essential to the nuclear industry. Without it, after we leave the European...

Layla Moran | 635 cc220-2 (Link to this contribution)

I find it hard to believe that we have finally got to this point, having attended every sitting o...

Maggie Throup | 635 cc222-3 (Link to this contribution)

I congratulate the ministerial team on their successful navigation, which has allowed the Bill to...

Rebecca Pow | 635 cc223-4 (Link to this contribution)

I am pleased to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Erewash (Maggie Throup) and all other collea...

Stephen Kerr | 635 cc224-5 (Link to this contribution)

I shall make just a few brief comments. I paid my compliments earlier to the hon. Member for Sout...

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