Lords Committee stage (third day). Clauses 100-111, 114-115 agreed to. New clauses debated and withdrawn. Title, Clauses 112-113 and Schedules 9-10, as amended, agreed to. Bill reported with amendments.
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Protection of Freedoms Bill. As amended in committee.
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Protection of Freedoms Bill. Brought from the Commons. Explanatory Notes HL Bill 99-EN also published.
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Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee - Twentieth Report on: Protection of Freedoms Bill 2010-12; Education Bill 2010-12 (Government amendments); London Olympic Games and Paralympic Games (Amendment) Bill 2010-12 (Government response). (Lords Minutes).
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Constitution Select Committee (HL) twentieth report on the Protection of Freedoms Bill.
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Proceeding contributions
Lord Wills | 734 c47-8GC (Link to this contribution)
The two amendments in this group tackle a problem with policing the Freedom of Information Act that ...
Baroness Hamwee | 734 c48GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the thrust of the two amendments, or either of them. As the noble Lord, Lord Wil...
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Lord Lucas | 734 c4-6GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have a clutch of amendments in this group. I will not at this moment comment on those pr...
Baroness Blackstone | 734 c8GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, very briefly, I support the amendments put down by the noble Baroness, Lady O'Neill. I sho...
Baroness Hamwee | 734 c72GC (Link to this contribution)
177: Clause 114, page 97, line 35, after ““2”” insert ““(excluding paragraph 12)””
Lord Scott of Foscote | 734 c21-2GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I rise to express my complete support for the spirit and intention behind this amendment, ...
Lord Soley | 734 c55-7GC (Link to this contribution)
After that last debate and listening to my noble friend who is as ever persuasive, knowledgeable and...
Baroness Brinton | 734 c13GC (Link to this contribution)
151: Clause 100, page 89, line 27, at end insert—
““( ) In section 22 (information intended for futu...
Baroness O'Neill of Bengarve | 734 c13GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I too am very grateful for the offer of a further meeting. I am slightly puzzled because I...
Baroness Hamwee | 734 c65-6GC (Link to this contribution)
The opt-in to the directive is of far more than technical importance: the message that the opt-in se...
Lord Henley | 734 c66-7GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I hope that I can respond relatively briefly but I will have to write a number of letters ...
Lord Henley | 734 c67-8GC (Link to this contribution)
152C: Before Clause 107, insert the following new Clause—
““Trafficking people for labour and other ...
Lord Henley | 734 c71GC (Link to this contribution)
170A: Clause 113, page 95, line 41, leave out ““107 and”” and insert ““(Trafficking people for sexua...
Lord Henley | 734 c71GC (Link to this contribution)
169B: Clause 112, page 95, line 29, leave out from ““for”” to ““to”” in line 30 and insert ““any of ...
Lord Henley | 734 c72GC (Link to this contribution)
171A: Clause 113, page 96, line 1, leave out ““and 6 to 10”” and insert ““, 6, 7, 9, 9A and 10””
1...
Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 734 c68GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I shall also speak to the other amendments in the group. This final group contains various...
Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 734 c68GC (Link to this contribution)
153: Schedule 9, page 167, line 9, leave out ““, 21 and 23”” and insert ““and 21 to 23””
Lord Henley | 734 c70-1GC (Link to this contribution)
164: Schedule 10, page 185, leave out lines 12 to 16
165: Schedule 10, page 185, leave out lines 2...
Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 734 c68-70GC (Link to this contribution)
154: Schedule 9, page 167, line 11, leave out sub-paragraph (3)
155: Schedule 9, page 170, line 4,...
Lord Henley | 734 c73-4GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as my noble friend has explained, the amendment relates to concerns that have recently com...
Baroness Hamwee | 734 c74GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, that is extremely helpful. I wonder if I might chance my arm by asking whether there might...
Baroness Hamwee | 734 c72-3GC (Link to this contribution)
My speech moving Amendment 177 will be a little longer than the previous speech. This amendment take...
Baroness Hooper | 734 c74GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the question is, that Clauses 26 to 39, Schedule 2, Clauses 40 to 53, Schedule 3, Clauses ...
Lord Henley | 734 c74GC (Link to this contribution)
178: In the Title, line 12, after ““to”” insert ““make provision about the trafficking of people for...
Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 734 c49-50GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken in this debate. I agree that any person g...
Lord Wills | 734 c50GC (Link to this contribution)
151L: After Clause 101, insert the following new Clause—
““Time limit for decisions involving the pu...
Lord Wills | 734 c50GC (Link to this contribution)
I am very grateful to the Minister and I am reassured by her response. I shall, of course, withdraw ...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 734 c52GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, these amendments merely seek to ensure that the process operates as quickly and as efficie...
Lord Wills | 734 c50-2GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, when I tabled these amendments I thought they were typically uncontentious, modest little ...
Lord Wills | 734 c53-4GC (Link to this contribution)
I am very grateful to the Minister for that response, which I think is encouraging. I will make one ...
Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 734 c52-3GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Wills, for explaining his amendments so clearly. I w...
Lord Soley | 734 c54-5GC (Link to this contribution)
152: After Clause 102, insert the following new Clause—
““Right to information regarding the ownersh...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 734 c57-8GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have little or nothing to add to what my noble friend has said. He is right to raise thi...
Baroness Hamwee | 734 c58GC (Link to this contribution)
The advice ““Don’t go to law”” might be extended to ““Be very careful about buying a house on an una...
Lord Soley | 734 c58GC (Link to this contribution)
Perhaps I should answer those points briefly. The reason for including other public departments is b...
Lord Soley | 734 c59-60GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am very grateful to the Minister for that reply, for the constructive way in which she h...
Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 734 c59GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I want first to congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Soley, on his staying power this afterno...
Lord Soley | 734 c58GC (Link to this contribution)
The noble Baroness may be right although I asked for it to be drawn up with a specific focus on this...
Baroness Hamwee | 734 c58GC (Link to this contribution)
Further to the issue about roads and the general situation described, the amendment could apply to a...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 734 c63-5GC (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for introducing the amendments and for the letter that he wrote to nob...
Lord McColl of Dulwich | 734 c62-3GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I welcome the fact that the Government are moving swiftly to give effect to certain requir...
Lord Henley | 734 c61-2GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, in moving Amendment 152B, I will speak also to Amendments 152C, 163A, 169A, 169B, 170A, 17...
Lord Henley | 734 c60-1GC (Link to this contribution)
152B: Before Clause 107, insert the following new Clause—
““Trafficking people for exploitation
Traf...
Lord Wills | 734 c30-1GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am sure that the Minister and her officials heaved a heavy sigh when they saw these amen...
Lord Rosser | 734 c31-2GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, once again my noble friend Lord Wills has set out the purpose of these amendments. As he h...
Lord Wills | 734 c29GC (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for her gracious and largely positive response, although I am slightly...
Lord Wills | 734 c29-30GC (Link to this contribution)
151C: After Clause 100, insert the following new Clause—
““Freedom of information and contracts
(1) ...
Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 734 c34GC (Link to this contribution)
I simply point out to the noble Lord that my understanding is that, although a local authority may c...
Lord Wills | 734 c34-5GC (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for what is a very valiant attempt, if I may say so. I will not detain...
Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 734 c32-4GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Wills, for introducing and explaining his amendment,...
Lord Wills | 734 c34GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for her broadly constructive, helpful and typically gracious...
Baroness Thornton | 734 c36-8GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am delighted to be taking part for a short time in this distinguished Grand Committee, w...
Baroness Thornton | 734 c35-6GC (Link to this contribution)
151E: After Clause 100, insert the following new Clause—
““Information to be communicated
(1) In sec...
Baroness Thornton | 734 c39GC (Link to this contribution)
I would be grateful if the Minister could address the issue. The register of risk is a very good exa...
Lord Henley | 734 c40GC (Link to this contribution)
I do not really see how it applies in the particular case that the noble Baroness is referring to, w...
Baroness Thornton | 734 c40GC (Link to this contribution)
I am very sorry to press the Minister on this matter, but I think I have been completely clear about...
Lord Henley | 734 c40GC (Link to this contribution)
Obviously we want to provide the most up-to-date information that is appropriate. If this goes to ap...
Baroness Thornton | 734 c40GC (Link to this contribution)
For the record, if the Government lose this appeal and publish this register of risks on this Bill, ...
Lord Henley | 734 c40-1GC (Link to this contribution)
I am not going to give an absolute guarantee of that sort without proper notice at this stage. Howev...
Baroness Thornton | 734 c41GC (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry to interrupt the Minister again but did I understand him to say that it was disproportion...
Lord Henley | 734 c41-2GC (Link to this contribution)
Yes, I think it is disproportionate to use the FOI process to delay the passage of a Bill and I do n...
Lord Henley | 734 c38-9GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I welcome the noble Baroness to this Bill. When I saw she was going to be moving this amen...
Baroness Thornton | 734 c42GC (Link to this contribution)
Is the noble Lord saying that the ruling of the Information Commissioner—and the words he used, whic...
Baroness Hamwee | 734 c44GC (Link to this contribution)
151G: Clause 101, page 91, leave out lines 7 and 8 and insert—
““(b) in the case of an authority whi...
Baroness Hamwee | 734 c44-5GC (Link to this contribution)
Since I will find it so difficult to explain my concerns, I suggest that after those interesting exc...
Lord Henley | 734 c43-4GC (Link to this contribution)
I can give the assurance that the coalition Government have given again and again of our desire for ...
Baroness Thornton | 734 c44GC (Link to this contribution)
I cannot guarantee the last bit from the Minister—that this issue is over for this Committee or for ...
Lord Henley | 734 c43GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as I am sure that the noble and learned Lord will be aware, we never comment on the advice...
Lord Wills | 734 c43GC (Link to this contribution)
I am perfectly calm, but I am very interested in following this debate, which has been fascinating. ...
Lord Henley | 734 c42GC (Link to this contribution)
I regret to say that the noble Baroness is now getting to the stage where she is deliberately trying...
Lord Scott of Foscote | 734 c42-3GC (Link to this contribution)
Can the Minister help me or the Committee in indicating whether law officers have given any advice o...
Lord Henley | 734 c42GC (Link to this contribution)
I have not said that at all. I have said that what the noble Baroness is saying in her amendment wou...
Baroness Thornton | 734 c42GC (Link to this contribution)
This is really very important. Is the Minister saying, suggesting or even inferring that the use of ...
Lord Rosser | 734 c48-9GC (Link to this contribution)
I support the amendments. I certainly do not intend to explain the purpose of them because my noble ...
Lord Lucas | 734 c46GC (Link to this contribution)
This amendment would give people seeking information the right to see that information in its origin...
Lord Henley | 734 c46-7GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank my noble friend for speaking to his amendment with such brevity that he caught me unaware. H...
Lord Lucas | 734 c47GC (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for that reply. I shall think carefully about what the Minister said, and if I need to...
Lord Wills | 734 c47GC (Link to this contribution)
151J: After Clause 101, insert the following new Clause—
““Changes to the offence of altering etc re...
Lord Henley | 734 c45-6GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am sure that my noble friend is right when she says that it is better always to ask the ...
Baroness Hamwee | 734 c46GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for that response. I follow everything he says, except, perhaps, his conclusion...
Lord Lucas | 734 c46GC (Link to this contribution)
151H: After Clause 101, insert the following new Clause—
““Means by which communication to be made
I...
Baroness Warwick of Undercliffe | 734 c6-7GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I rise to support the amendments tabled in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady O’Neill. T...
Lord May of Oxford | 734 c7-8GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the set of amendments tabled by the noble Baroness, Lady O'Neill, and Amendment ...
Baroness O'Neill of Bengarve | 734 c1-4GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I want to speak to Amendments 147A, 147B, 148A, 148C and 148D. I will also comment, but mu...
Baroness O'Neill of Bengarve | 734 c1GC (Link to this contribution)
147A: Clause 100, page 85, line 10, after ““forms”” insert ““a completed””
Baroness Brinton | 734 c13-8GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as has already been mentioned, Amendment 151 seeks to insert an entirely new clause design...
Baroness Benjamin | 734 c18-9GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the amendment, to which I have put my name, as it provides an opportunity to imp...
Baroness Warwick of Undercliffe | 734 c20-1GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I added my name to this amendment because, as noble Lords will know, I have a long-standin...
Lord Lucas | 734 c12GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am very grateful for my noble friend’s replies to my amendments. If I might take up his ...
Lord Henley | 734 c9-12GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I start by saying that I am very grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady O’Neill, for her ope...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 734 c8-9GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I, too, rise briefly to support the amendments in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady O’N...
Lord Bew | 734 c8GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I rise briefly to support Amendment 148A, in particular, and to make the point even more s...
Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 734 c28-9GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as my noble friend has already made clear this afternoon the Government are very committed...
Lord Wills | 734 c27-8GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, in contrast to the weighty and important matters we have just been discussing these are tw...
Lord Rosser | 734 c28GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, my noble friend Lord Wills has set out the objectives of the amendment, which seek to impr...
Lord Wills | 734 c27GC (Link to this contribution)
151B: After Clause 100, insert the following new Clause—
““Consultations with a view to designating ...
Baroness Brinton | 734 c26-7GC (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for his comments and for his offer of a meeting, which I think myself and other...
Lord Henley | 734 c24-6GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I start by saying that whatever arguments I put forward will not be based on those of the ...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 734 c24GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I rise to support the amendments in the names of the noble Baronesses.
Amendment 151 prov...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 734 c23-4GC (Link to this contribution)
I would like to say very briefly how much I support this amendment. The noble Baroness, Lady Blackst...
Lord May of Oxford | 734 c23GC (Link to this contribution)
I express my approval of the amendment. I would go beyond the noble Baroness, Lady Blackstone, in sa...
Baroness Blackstone | 734 c22-3GC (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support these amendments but I, of course, defer to the noble and learned Lord who is mu...
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