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Protection of Freedoms Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Tuesday, 6 December 2011, in the House of Lords.
Protection of Freedoms Bill. Lords committee stage second day. Clauses 64 to 84 agreed to, with clauses 66, 79, 81, 82 amended. Schedule 7 agreed to as amended. Clauses 1 to 25, 54 to 56, 64 to 84, Schedules 1, 4, 7 reported with amendments.

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Reference

733 c622-85 

Session

2010-12

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Home Office

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Committee stage

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House of Lords chamber

Proceeding contributions

Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 733 c681-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, government Amendment 76 inserts a new clause into the Bill that will strengthen the curren...
Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 733 c683 (Link to this contribution) 77: Clause 81, page 71, line 36, after ““application”” insert ““in writing””

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Lord Addington | 733 c681 (Link to this contribution) I thank my noble friend for that response, and I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment 75...
Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 733 c681 (Link to this contribution) 76: After Clause 80, insert the following new Clause— ““Additional grounds for refusing an applicati...
Lord Addington | 733 c680-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will make a speech consisting merely of two questions that I did not get a chance to ask...
Lord Henley | 733 c681 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, on the first point I would certainly be more than happy to consider a greater degree of fl...
Lord Addington | 733 c680 (Link to this contribution) 75: Clause 79, leave out Clause 79 and insert the following new Clause— ““Criminal conviction certif...
Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 733 c683 (Link to this contribution) 79: Clause 82, page 73, line 8, leave out ““or B”” and insert ““, B or C”” 80: Clause 82, page 73,...
Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 733 c683 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, government Amendments 77, 78, 79, 80 and 81 make two technical changes to the provisions i...
Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 733 c683 (Link to this contribution) 78: Clause 81, page 72, line 2, after ““apply”” insert ““in writing”” Amendment 78 agreed. Clause ...
Lord Henley | 733 c684 (Link to this contribution) 82: Clause 82, page 74, line 13, at end insert— ““(7A) If up-date information is given under subsect...
Lord Henley | 733 c684 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I spoke to this amendment with Amendment 73. I beg to move. Amendment 82 agreed. Clause ...
Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 733 c684 (Link to this contribution) 83: Before Clause 84, insert the following new Clause— ““Inclusion of cautions etc. in national poli...
Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 733 c684-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 83 will provide parity with convictions for the recording of cautions, reprimand...
Baroness Doocey | 733 c680 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for that sympathetic response and I look forward to receiving the let...
Baroness Doocey | 733 c677 (Link to this contribution) 74: Clause 79, page 70, line 38, at end insert— ““(3) In section 113B of the Police Act 1997, after ...
Baroness Doocey | 733 c677-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the purpose of this amendment is to ensure that licensing authorities have access to infor...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 733 c678 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the noble Baroness in her amendment. It seems extraordinary that taxi companies ...
Lord Harris of Haringey | 733 c678 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think that the noble Baroness, Lady Doocey, has put forward an extremely helpful amendme...
Baroness Hamwee | 733 c678-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I will give the Minister thinking time, but I was going to say that rickshaw drive...
Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton | 733 c679 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, should the noble Baroness, Lady Doocey, need additional support, I worked with the noble B...
Lord Henley | 733 c679 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, such is the benign nature of my speaking note—I am not even sure that ““Resist”” appears o...
Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton | 733 c639 (Link to this contribution) There is a world of difference between close and constant, and occasional. There is a further concer...
Lord Henley | 733 c639-40 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think that we are moving away from what the amendments originally were about. There now ...
Baroness Heyhoe Flint | 733 c640 (Link to this contribution) I thank my noble friend for his response. Having lobbed the pebble in the water, it has drawn up sev...
Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 733 c640 (Link to this contribution) 67: Clause 66, page 54, line 3, leave out from ““nails”” to end of line 4
Lord Rosser | 733 c641 (Link to this contribution) 68: Clause 67, leave out Clause 67 and insert the following new Clause— ““Alteration of test for bar...
Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 733 c640 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, these government amendments are to remedy an anomaly in the definition of regulated activi...
Bishop of Newcastle | 733 c643-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would be grateful if I could ask the Minister for clarification. As I understand it, the...
Lord Rosser | 733 c641-3 (Link to this contribution) I shall speak to the two amendments in this group. Amendment 68 would reverse provisions to restrict...
Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton | 733 c646 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that the Minister will take away and think about the fact that the degree of superv...
Lord Henley | 733 c644-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thought that the noble Lord, Lord Rosser, had managed to silence the entire House, but t...
Lord Henley | 733 c635-7 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, is a lawyer and she has expressed exactly how it should be. Obvious...
Baroness Hamwee | 733 c637 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister move away from the wording of this amendment—I take the point he makes about it pe...
Baroness Hamwee | 733 c635 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I should see whether I can make myself absolutely clear. My concern was that primary legisla...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 733 c638 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is absolutely right that the noble Lord has offered to have further discussions with th...
Lord Henley | 733 c638 (Link to this contribution) It may or may not be an indication that my noble friend is right, but I think that further discussio...
Baroness Walmsley | 733 c638 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps my noble friend the Minister will allow me to clarify my thoughts on this matter. The main p...
Lord Henley | 733 c639 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord seems to be suggesting that we get rid of the idea or the concept of supervision in i...
Lord Bichard | 733 c638-9 (Link to this contribution) My problem, which is not yet being addressed, is this: we have checks to ensure that inappropriate p...
Lord Henley | 733 c638 (Link to this contribution) We can have a meeting if the noble Baroness wishes; my door is always open. I just think that ““clos...
Baroness Walmsley | 733 c628-30 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have two amendments in this group, Amendments 63 and 66. Amendment 63 would provide a le...
Lord Addington | 733 c635 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may come in here to clarify the matter. I was using sport as an example of where you get a...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 733 c635 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that response from the Minister but I surmised from what the noble Lord, Lord Addi...
Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton | 733 c635 (Link to this contribution) Can the Minister give the assurance which I understood his noble friend Lady Hamwee was seeking? He ...
Lord Henley | 733 c635 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, obviously at this stage I cannot define ““recreational”” as used by my noble friends in th...
Baroness Randerson | 733 c631-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to speak specifically to Amendment 63, which was introduced by my noble friend Lady...
Baroness Grey-Thompson | 733 c630-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment, which was very comprehensively moved by the noble Baroness, Lady ...
Lord Henley | 733 c632-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend Lady Hamwee for, in effect, finishing off this debate. Sh...
Baroness Hamwee | 733 c632 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may make some more general points following the comments in particular of the no...
Lord Bichard | 733 c626-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as chairman of the Soham inquiry there are perhaps some who think that I was the instigato...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 733 c624-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 59, 63A—which is on the Marshalled List but was not included o...
Baroness Heyhoe Flint | 733 c622-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am glad to have the opportunity to build on the comments I made during Second Reading, w...
Baroness Heyhoe Flint | 733 c622 (Link to this contribution) 58: Clause 64, page 50, line 43, after ““(2B)”” insert ““or (2C)””
Bishop of Newcastle | 733 c627 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have anxieties about this concept of supervision because the Bill does not actually defi...
Baroness Heyhoe Flint | 733 c671-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will speak to the Government’s Amendment 73 and in support of what my noble friend Lord ...
Lord Addington | 733 c670-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the amendment tabled in my name and that of my noble friend Lady Heyhoe Flint addresses a ...
Lord Rosser | 733 c673-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we also have an amendment in this group, Amendment 75A, the thrust of which is very much i...
Bishop of Newcastle | 733 c672-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, wish to register some anxieties about the proposals, and support some of the comme...
Lord Henley | 733 c675-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the first point I had better make clear—as I sensed a degree of doubt in my noble friend L...
Lord Rosser | 733 c676 (Link to this contribution) The Minister knows that I was not there with any sporting organisations, but I have an amendment dow...
Lord Henley | 733 c676 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord has taken offence because I accidently used the words ““noble friends”” and did not i...
Lord Addington | 733 c676 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord would of course add to any gathering that we had, and I hope that he comes at least a...
Lord Henley | 733 c676 (Link to this contribution) I was not trying to exclude the noble Lord, Lord Rosser. I just thought that he was taking offence u...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 733 c663-4 (Link to this contribution) I struggled with O-level maths, as is apparent. In that case, I hope that when we reach the Report s...
Lord Henley | 733 c663 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness knows full well that Report is unlikely to be reached in January. We still have n...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 733 c663 (Link to this contribution) I well understand that, but I will be seeking an assurance in writing from the Minister. If we are g...
Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 733 c666-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend Lord Goodhart for providing the context and thinking behi...
Lord Goodhart | 733 c664-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have just heard one of the most remarkable statements that has been made in your Lordsh...
Lord Goodhart | 733 c664 (Link to this contribution) 71A: Before Clause 79, insert the following new Clause— ““Restriction on information provided about ...
Lord Henley | 733 c664 (Link to this contribution) 71: Schedule 7, page 145, line 8, leave out from ““nails”” to end of line 9 Amendment 71 agreed. S...
Lord Henley | 733 c668-70 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in moving Amendment 73 I shall speak also to Amendment 82. Within this group we shall also...
Lord Goodhart | 733 c667 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, what the noble Baroness has said is certainly a move in the right direction and that pleas...
Lord Henley | 733 c667-8 (Link to this contribution) 73: Clause 79, page 70, line 38, at end insert— ““(3) After section 120AB of the Police Act 1997 (pr...
Lord Dear | 733 c657 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall be brief. I support the amendment as set out by the noble Baroness, Lady Royall of...
Lord Henley | 733 c659-61 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I note what my noble friend Lord Sharkey and all other noble Lords said. I think it was th...
Lord Sharkey | 733 c658-9 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Royall, for tabling this amendment, whose objectives I strongly sup...
Baroness Brinton | 733 c654-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is frequently said that one of the strengths of this House is its expertise and experie...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 733 c653-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I fully support the amendment of the noble Baroness, Lady Royall of Blaisdon, which aims t...
Baroness Brinton | 733 c661 (Link to this contribution) Would my noble friend not accept that the increase in reported cases and convictions in Scotland sin...
Lord Henley | 733 c662 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend makes a very good point and this is something we should look at. It is obviously ear...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 733 c662-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords for this excellent if rather short debate on stalking. It...
Lord Henley | 733 c663 (Link to this contribution) I cannot give the total assurance that the noble Baroness would like to have from me, but obviously ...
Baroness Hamwee | 733 c647 (Link to this contribution) 69A: Clause 72, page 60, line 28, after ““consent”” insert ““(provided it has not been withdrawn)””
Lord Rosser | 733 c646 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I noticed the response that the Minister gave to the right reverend Prelate, and I think t...
Lord Henley | 733 c646 (Link to this contribution) I think that I can agree with the first point made by the noble Baroness entirely. As for the second...
Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton | 733 c646 (Link to this contribution) The Minister misunderstands my position. My primary concern is the care of children, which I share w...
Lord Henley | 733 c646 (Link to this contribution) I have a sneaking feeling that the noble Baroness just does not like the idea of supervision coming ...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 733 c650-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 70 would introduce a new criminal offence of stalking in place of the existing o...
Baroness Hamwee | 733 c648 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Minister read my mind. I had wondered whether to draw to the attention of the House th...
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 733 c648-50 (Link to this contribution) 70: After Clause 78, insert the following new Clause— ““Protection from stalking (1) The Protection ...
Baroness Hamwee | 733 c647 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that we can dispose of this quickly. Clause 72 deals with information about barring...
Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 733 c647-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend Lady Hamwee for her explanation in moving her amendment. ...
Lord Henley | 733 c679-80 (Link to this contribution) Anyway, my Lords, I express my gratitude to my noble friend for moving this amendment. She is seekin...
Lord Henley | 733 c637-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I understand the concern, and I think it might be necessary for us to have further discuss...
Lord Addington | 733 c627-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support my noble friend. I believe that this is the first amendment that she has moved i...
Lord Rosser | 733 c676 (Link to this contribution) I notice that the Minister said that he would continue discussions with his noble friend and sportin...
Baroness Hamwee | 733 c657-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may raise two small points. They seem almost trivial in the context but they are...
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