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Education Bill

Debate on bills on Monday, 24 October 2011, in the House of Lords.
Education Bill. Lords report stage second day.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

731 c544-50, 562-618, 633-48 

Session

2010-12

Department

Department for Education

Legislative stage

Report stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber

Related items

Education Bill. As amended in Grand Committee.
Tuesday, 4 October 2011
Bills
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Baroness Walmsley | 731 c547-8 (Link to this contribution) I agree with what has been said about the importance and value of support staff. There are several s...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 731 c602 (Link to this contribution) It is the case. I probably will not get the precise words right but my noble friend Lord Avebury acc...

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Lord Touhig | 731 c597-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we seem to be repeating the arguments we had in Committee. The noble Lord, Lord Avebury, h...
Baroness Whitaker | 731 c600 (Link to this contribution) I agree with everything that my noble friend says. I have nothing against the teaching of faith. My ...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 731 c562-4 (Link to this contribution) 56: After Clause 22, insert the following new Clause— ““Enforcement powers (1) Part 7 of ASCLA 2009 ...
Baroness Garden of Frognal | 731 c615-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lord Willis for raising this important issue. We agree entirely wi...
Lord Lucas | 731 c600 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, surely those who regard religion as an infectious and dangerous condition should, in the m...
Baroness Garden of Frognal | 731 c604-5 (Link to this contribution) I apologise again to my noble friend, but there is so much noise in the Chamber that it is quite dif...
Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 731 c604 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the history of moving amendments on technology is fraught with danger. It seems rather odd...
Lord Puttnam | 731 c606-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Willis, for keeping this ball on the park. Like many other Me...
Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 731 c605-6 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to my noble friend. The fact that the House is so packed to hear this amendment o...
Baroness Garden of Frognal | 731 c604 (Link to this contribution) For the sake of clarification, the last vote was nullified because no one called ““Content”” at the ...
Baroness Garden of Frognal | 731 c600 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may remind noble Lords of the rules on Report. Members may speak only once to an amendment...
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 731 c600 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will say one thing briefly. It is important that we all remember that the Church of Engl...
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 731 c608 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I very strongly support this amendment. I have a six year-old American grandson, and I hav...
Lord Avebury | 731 c602 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry to interrupt my noble friend but can he confirm that there cannot be a determination to h...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 731 c601-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I start by thanking my noble friend Lord Avebury and the noble Baroness, Lady Turner of Ca...
Bishop of Chester | 731 c601 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will clarify one point if I may. I have not spoken before. We on the Bishops' Benches so...
Baroness Paisley of St George's | 731 c601 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there are thousands of parents in our country today who do not have a Bible in their homes...
Lord Elton | 731 c600 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will intervene briefly. I, too, apologise for arriving late. I was bending my energies t...
Lord Anderson of Swansea | 731 c603 (Link to this contribution) Are there precedents for a majority of parents asking that there be no collective act of worship?
Lord Hill of Oareford | 731 c603 (Link to this contribution) I am afraid that I do not know specific figures. I understand that overall there appear to be few ca...
Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 731 c604 (Link to this contribution) 61D: After Clause 29, insert the following new Clause— ““Technology in schools (1) The Secretary of ...
Lord Avebury | 731 c603-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it would be quite impossible to do justice to the extensive discussion that we have just b...
Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 731 c604 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thought we were voting. I wish to speak to Amendment 61D standing in my name and the nam...
Baroness Flather | 731 c596-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should like to make a few points on this subject. I think that we should turn the issue ...
Bishop of Ripon and Leeds | 731 c596 (Link to this contribution) I still think that the amendment is undesirable and I think that the noble Lord does so, too. The m...
Lord Avebury | 731 c591-4 (Link to this contribution) I declare an interest as an honorary associate of the National Secular Society, to which I am greatl...
Lord Avebury | 731 c590-1 (Link to this contribution) 61A: After Clause 29, insert the following new Clause— ““Collective worship (1) Section 70 of SSFA 1...
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 731 c587-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, notwithstanding the fact that my noble friend Lady Brinton is not moving this amendment, I...
Lord Avebury | 731 c596 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry to interrupt the right reverend Prelate. I said that Amendment 61C was less preferable th...
Bishop of Ripon and Leeds | 731 c595-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Avebury, and the noble Baroness, Lady Turner, f...
Baroness Trumpington | 731 c595 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was married to the headmaster of a Methodist boarding school for many years, including d...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 731 c594-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the noble Lord, Lord Avebury in the amendment he has just moved. As he has point...
Baroness Whitaker | 731 c599 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, while I agree very much with what the noble Lord, Lord Cormack, said, I cannot think that ...
Lord Cormack | 731 c598-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would like briefly to support what the noble Lord, Lord Touhig, just said. We had a very...
Lord Northbourne | 731 c599 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps the noble Lord, Lord Avebury, can help me. In his speech he mentioned the universa...
Lord Hughes of Woodside | 731 c599 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise to your Lordships' House for not being here at the beginning of the debate. I ...
Lord Anderson of Swansea | 731 c599 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, apologise for arriving late through inadvertence. I adopt everything that my noble...
Lord Hughes of Woodside | 731 c600 (Link to this contribution) I do not know why my noble friend repeats the story that we are trying to stop people understanding ...
Lord Anderson of Swansea | 731 c600 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I misunderstood my noble friend. I thought I heard her refer to the teaching of ““one faith”...
Lord Lingfield | 731 c568 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister that, following my remarks, these clauses are to be inserted...
Lord Sutherland of Houndwood | 731 c568-9 (Link to this contribution) I warmly welcome the Government amendment, and not only for the reason it means that one's words do ...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 731 c569-70 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not object in principle to the proposals. They were consulted on in 2009 by my Govern...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 731 c570-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friends Lord Lingfield and Lady Sharp of Guildford, and the nobl...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 731 c567-8 (Link to this contribution) Amendments 56A and 56B are in my name and both are amendments to Amendment 56. I tabled them because...
Baroness Brinton | 731 c577-8 (Link to this contribution) I shall speak to Amendments 58, 59, 60 and 61. I welcome the Minister's letter of 20 October, which ...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 731 c571 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that explanation. I am reassured that there will be extensive consultation ...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 731 c571-4 (Link to this contribution) 57: After Clause 22, insert the following new Clause— ““Enforcement powers of Welsh Ministers (1) Ch...
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 731 c574 (Link to this contribution) 57C: Clause 27, page 28, line 8, leave out ““during the relevant phase of their education”” and inse...
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 731 c574-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the amendments in this group aim to improve the careers advice to which young people would...
Baroness Brinton | 731 c582 (Link to this contribution) Is the Minister talking about statutory guidance here? He did not use the phrase ““statutory guidanc...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 731 c582-3 (Link to this contribution) Yes, it is statutory guidance. I thought I had used the phrase; forgive me. I welcome the views of m...
Lord Morris of Handsworth | 731 c580 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I add my name to those supporting the group of amendments spoken to by my noble friend Lad...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 731 c580-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful for this chance to return to the issue of careers guidance and the Governmen...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 731 c578-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to support these amendments, in particular those mentioned by the noble Baroness, L...
Baroness Morris of Yardley | 731 c579 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, support the amendments put forward by my noble friend Lady Jones and the noble Bar...
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 731 c583-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, once again we have had a very good debate on careers. I think that noble Lords from around...
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 731 c587 (Link to this contribution) 58: Clause 27, page 28, line 25, after ““apprenticeships,”” insert— ““( ) is provided by a person wh...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 731 c583 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Lord sits down, will he address the point I made that careers advice for girls shou...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 731 c583 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that the noble Baroness will forgive me for not responding to that point. We clearl...
Lord Knight of Weymouth | 731 c546-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support my noble friend Lady Jones. This will not be a surprise to the Minister, because...
Baroness Perry of Southwark | 731 c547 (Link to this contribution) I hope that no one in this House would for a moment argue that the value of teaching assistants is i...
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 731 c544-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Clause 18 abolishes the School Support Staff Negotiating Body, which was set up to design ...
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 731 c549-50 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lords who have reiterated the crucial role that support staff play in th...
Baroness Garden of Frognal | 731 c548-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as we said in Grand Committee, a debate about the value of the School Support Staff Negoti...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 731 c564-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, government Amendments 56 and 57 are a response to concerns first raised by my noble friend...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 731 c567 (Link to this contribution) 56A: After Clause 22, line 41, leave out ““not exceed 10 per cent of the body's”” and insert ““only ...
Lord Knight of Weymouth | 731 c608-11 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support this amendment. In doing so, I refer noble Lords to my entry in the register of ...
Lord Lucas | 731 c611-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am enormously supportive of everything that has been said so far. I am greatly encourage...
Lord Sutherland of Houndwood | 731 c611 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I also declare an interest in that I work with a Malaysian company, YTL, in a plan to take...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 731 c614 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support my noble friend Lord Willis and those who have spoken in favour of this amendmen...
Baroness Paisley of St George's | 731 c613-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, support this amendment. I had two wonderful experiences recently. One was on board...
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 731 c614-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we had a very good debate on this issue in Grand Committee, and I am grateful to the noble...
Lord Puttnam | 731 c616 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry to interrupt the Minister but I have a question before she sits down. Do the Government c...
Baroness Garden of Frognal | 731 c616-7 (Link to this contribution) It would be almost impossible to deliver the curriculum successfully in a 21st-century school withou...
Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 731 c617 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am enormously grateful for the contributions of noble Lords on all sides of the House in...
Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 731 c634 (Link to this contribution) The Minister knows how much I welcome the amendment. I have not been part of the formal consultation...
Baroness Walmsley | 731 c634 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful to my noble friend for listening to our views and responding in the way...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 731 c633-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in Grand Committee we debated at some length the merits of Clause 30, which covers the dut...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 731 c637 (Link to this contribution) 63: Clause 31, leave out Clause 31 Amendment 63 agreed. Clause 34 : Duties in relation to school a...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 731 c636-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful for the response from noble Lords. The accolades predicted by my noble frien...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 731 c635-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, warmly welcome the government amendments not to repeal the duties in Clauses 30 an...
Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 731 c634-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, welcome the government amendment—or everybody's amendment, really. It clearly is r...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 731 c637 (Link to this contribution) 63A: Clause 34, page 33, line 24, at end insert— ““( ) In section 84 (code for school admissions) in...
Lord Northbourne | 731 c639 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hear the expression ““fair access””, but it is possible to develop arguments for differe...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 731 c637-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 63A and 66A, which relate to Clause 34, on the subject of admis...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 731 c645 (Link to this contribution) I understand the point. One way to tackle this might be to ask the chief adjudicator to look at the ...
Baroness Morris of Yardley | 731 c644 (Link to this contribution) I see that the Minister is trying to be helpful and I entirely accept what he said about the Secreta...
Baroness Walmsley | 731 c645 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may clarify the situation for the benefit of the noble Baroness. I have been convinced by ...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 731 c645 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his detailed response. As my noble friend Lady Morris said, he wa...
Baroness Morris of Yardley | 731 c640-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendments and I, too, look forward to the Minister's reply. I learnt last w...
Baroness Walmsley | 731 c639-40 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I see that the noble Lord, Lord Northbourne, is exercised by his inability to define what ...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 731 c642-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I agree with the three definitions that the noble Lord, Lord Knight of Weymouth, came up w...
Lord Knight of Weymouth | 731 c641-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in some ways there is not much more to add, but I want to reinforce this point. I understa...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 731 c646-7 (Link to this contribution) I do not have a statutory reference. I am just responding to the words that the Minister himself cho...
Lord Avebury | 731 c646 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the noble Baroness did not hear the Minister say that he will write to my noble friend givin...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 731 c645 (Link to this contribution) As I hope to point out, I did not hear the Minister say anything which suggested that that duty alre...

Subjects

Disability
Children
Assessments
Devolved matters
Admissions
Appeals
Disadvantaged
Classroom assistants
Collective worship
ICT
Local government
Qualifications
Pay
Standards
Special educational needs
Vocational guidance
Young people
Religion
Wales
Technology
Academies
Ofqual
Qualifications and Curriculum Development Agency
School Support Staff Negotiating Body
Free schools
Maintained schools

Legislation

Education Bill 2010-12

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