Protection of Freedoms Bill. Report stage second day. New clause 16 debated and negatived on division (229 votes to 319). New clause 12 debated and added to the Bill. New clause 18 debated and negatived on division (224 votes to 295). New clause 13, discussed with new clause 14, debated and added to the Bill. Third reading debate. Queen's consent signified. Agreed to on division (320 votes to 227). Bill read the third time and passed.
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Proceeding contributions
Baroness Blackwood of North Oxford | 533 c294 (Link to this contribution)
The decision to go for three years is based on the recommendation of the Home Affairs Committee, whi...
Stephen Phillips | 533 c294 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend agree that there is no magic in six years, as the right hon. Member for Normanto...
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Baroness Blackwood of North Oxford | 533 c294 (Link to this contribution)
I take all issues of crime and the victims of crime extremely seriously, and so must this House. I w...
John Robertson | 533 c293-4 (Link to this contribution)
I accept the point that the hon. Lady is trying to make, but would it not be fairer to say that in s...
Andrew Miller | 533 c295 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. and learned Gentleman is mathematically wrong. It is not a question of judgment, it is a ma...
Stephen Phillips | 533 c295 (Link to this contribution)
I rise, of course, to lend my support to this welcome Bill and to thank the Government for starting ...
Baroness Blackwood of North Oxford | 533 c294-5 (Link to this contribution)
I will move on to CCTV, as another colleague wishes to speak.
No one is claiming that CCTV does not...
Andrew Miller | 533 c294 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Lady give way?
Andrew Miller | 533 c296 (Link to this contribution)
It is not judgment, it is a fact.
Stephen Phillips | 533 c296 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman expresses a view with regard to his judgment, but it is a view—
Mark Tami | 533 c292 (Link to this contribution)
Has anyone from the law-abiding community come to see the right hon. Gentleman to ask for CCTV to be...
Andrew Miller | 533 c292 (Link to this contribution)
How does the right hon. Gentleman square that statement with the fact that crime is falling?
Stephen Phillips | 533 c293 (Link to this contribution)
Does my right hon. Friend agree that we probably did not need the new criminal offence, introduced b...
John Redwood | 533 c292-3 (Link to this contribution)
If overall crime is falling, that is extremely welcome news, although there are disputes about the f...
Speaker | 533 c293 (Link to this contribution)
Order. May I interrupt the right hon. Gentleman? It is always a great pleasure to listen to his mell...
John Redwood | 533 c293 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. and learned Friend has come up with an admirable example that I did not know about; there ar...
Speaker | 533 c293 (Link to this contribution)
Order. The Question is that the Bill—[Interruption.] Well, it is helpful if colleagues stand if they...
John Redwood | 533 c293 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for your generous intervention, Mr Speaker, but I have been warned that two other coll...
Baroness Blackwood of North Oxford | 533 c293 (Link to this contribution)
I rise to speak as someone who was a member of the Committee scrutinising the Bill. It is the first ...
John Redwood | 533 c289-91 (Link to this contribution)
I rise to support the Bill. I am very pleased that the Government wish to strengthen our civil liber...
Tom Brake | 533 c289 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention—for once a helpful intervention from the Opposition ...
Pete Wishart | 533 c288-9 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman is absolutely right that there has been no issue or contention about the pr...
Tom Brake | 533 c288 (Link to this contribution)
Clearly, that is a risk, although as we heard yesterday, in practice that did not happen in Scotland...
Mark Tami | 533 c288 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Gentleman accept that the danger of the Bill is that those same people become rogue ti...
Tom Brake | 533 c287-8 (Link to this contribution)
In some respects, this is a Christmas tree of a Bill, but given that each bauble on the tree represe...
John Redwood | 533 c292 (Link to this contribution)
I am just making the point that there was an easier way of capturing a lot of those criminals and th...
Mark Tami | 533 c292 (Link to this contribution)
Does the right hon. Gentleman not accept that a lot of people were caught through CCTV—and through D...
Andrew Miller | 533 c283 (Link to this contribution)
I was trying to improve it.
Speaker | 533 c283 (Link to this contribution)
Order. As the hon. Gentleman knows, we are discussing the Bill as it is now, not the new clauses tha...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 533 c283-4 (Link to this contribution)
I think the hon. Gentleman, and I take a different view on the issue he raises about scientific rese...
Speaker | 533 c283 (Link to this contribution)
I understand that, and I am sure that the hon. Gentleman has been very helpful.
Yvette Cooper | 533 c286-7 (Link to this contribution)
I point out to the hon. and learned Gentleman that that is his policy and that of his party. That is...
Yvette Cooper | 533 c284-6 (Link to this contribution)
I join the Home Secretary in thanking all hon. Members who have toiled throughout the passage of the...
Stephen Phillips | 533 c286 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for the right hon. Lady's anticipation of what my intervention might be. What would sh...
Yvette Cooper | 533 c286 (Link to this contribution)
I will give way to the hon. and learned Gentleman, but I ask him whether he can give a good reason f...
Stephen Phillips | 533 c296 (Link to this contribution)
It is an exercise of judgment, and in my judgment and that of the Government whom I support, three y...
Stephen Phillips | 533 c296 (Link to this contribution)
So there we are, the House has it—it is a curve. Does that not savour of the statistics, initiatives...
Baroness Featherstone | 533 c240-1 (Link to this contribution)
It might give the hon. Lady some heart if I say that we have listened very carefully to that argumen...
Diana Johnson | 533 c240 (Link to this contribution)
I have set out the problem in the amendments. Making the certificate available only to the individua...
Diana Johnson | 533 c239-40 (Link to this contribution)
I pay tribute to my hon. Friend the Member for Sheffield, Heeley (Meg Munn) for her well informed sp...
Baroness Featherstone | 533 c238-9 (Link to this contribution)
If they were in regulated activity, they would be barred. It is a duty under the law that they shoul...
Diana Johnson | 533 c238 (Link to this contribution)
I am trying to help the Minister, who may have said something that I am not sure her officials would...
Baroness Featherstone | 533 c238 (Link to this contribution)
I do not think that we will reach agreement on that point, because we regard it as disproportionate ...
Diana Johnson | 533 c237-8 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister is absolutely right that the police should be informed where there are allegations that...
Baroness Featherstone | 533 c241 (Link to this contribution)
I think the hon. Lady should reflect on the fact that we have listened, that we are working with all...
Diana Johnson | 533 c241 (Link to this contribution)
Let me repeat a comment I made yesterday in a debate on wheel-clamping: one of the problems with thi...
Speaker | 533 c246 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I ask those Members who are leaving the Chamber to do so quietly while we continue our consid...
Diana Johnson | 533 c246 (Link to this contribution)
We debated regulated activity and supervision in Committee. [Interruption.] These amendments address...
Meg Munn | 533 c247 (Link to this contribution)
May I reiterate the concern that is felt? The failure to provide barred status information on people...
Diana Johnson | 533 c246-7 (Link to this contribution)
As I was saying, these amendments deal with regulated activity relating to children and we discussed...
Diana Johnson | 533 c241-2 (Link to this contribution)
The problem is that the barring information is not made available. The point of our new clause is to...
Baroness Featherstone | 533 c241 (Link to this contribution)
The situation that the hon. Lady raises arises under the existing rules.
Speaker | 533 c246 (Link to this contribution)
With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:
Amendment 114, in page 45, line 22, leave...
Diana Johnson | 533 c246 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move amendment 112, in page 45, leave out lines 22 to 24.
Diana Johnson | 533 c247-8 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend puts the case very well, and I hope the Minister will reflect on the issue of barred ...
Diana Johnson | 533 c241 (Link to this contribution)
Goodness, it is like the Health and Social Care Bill all over again! At this point, perhaps I should...
Speaker | 533 c249 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Lady wish to withdraw the amendment?
Jim Shannon | 533 c249 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Lady for giving way; I am conscious of the time. Does she feel that this measure is...
James Brokenshire | 533 c259 (Link to this contribution)
The coalition's programme for government committed the Government to reviewing counter-terrorism leg...
Speaker | 533 c258 (Link to this contribution)
With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:
New clause 14—Extension of pre-charge det...
James Brokenshire | 533 c258 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Jim Shannon | 533 c248 (Link to this contribution)
One of the concerns that many people and lots of organisations have about supervision—this has been ...
Diana Johnson | 533 c248-9 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman makes a very important point. All members of the Public Bill Committee had real c...
Baroness Blackwood of North Oxford | 533 c261 (Link to this contribution)
Will my hon. Friend give some indication of the role that operational independence will have in cons...
James Brokenshire | 533 c260-1 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman will obviously have seen the Home Secretary's response to the Joint Committ...
James Brokenshire | 533 c261 (Link to this contribution)
I will cover that point in further detail in the latter part of my contribution, but I will say that...
William Cash | 533 c261 (Link to this contribution)
Does the Minister believe that habeas corpus itself is in any way affected by the proposals before t...
James Brokenshire | 533 c261 (Link to this contribution)
I think that is right. In many ways it is why the Government have taken the approach that we have. U...
James Brokenshire | 533 c261-2 (Link to this contribution)
I know that that is a particular concern for my hon. Friend, but we do not think that it is engaged ...
Alun Michael | 533 c259 (Link to this contribution)
I want to clarify one point that is not dealt with in the Home Secretary's response to the Committee...
James Brokenshire | 533 c259-60 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman is absolutely right about the evidence that the Home Secretary gave to the ...
Alun Michael | 533 c260 (Link to this contribution)
I am following the logic of what the Minister says very carefully. He referred to multiple attacks a...
James Brokenshire | 533 c264 (Link to this contribution)
The Joint Committee set out that point very clearly in its report, and we have heard it, but we beli...
William Cash | 533 c265 (Link to this contribution)
I am sure the Minister appreciates that he is treading a rather wobbly line, because clause 57 talks...
Alun Michael | 533 c264 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way, because he is dealing with important issues. He ...
Speaker | 533 c264 (Link to this contribution)
Order. We need shorter interventions, as we still have a lot of business to go.
Baroness Blackwood of North Oxford | 533 c263-4 (Link to this contribution)
In addition to the question of whether it is appropriate for Parliament to be the body that debates ...
James Brokenshire | 533 c264 (Link to this contribution)
I have already said that on this matter neither I nor the Home Secretary feel that crystal ball-gazi...
James Brokenshire | 533 c263 (Link to this contribution)
That point was considered in the counter-terrorism review, and the view clearly expressed was that t...
Alun Michael | 533 c263 (Link to this contribution)
I accept the hon. Gentleman's point, and I do not think that anybody is arguing for access to period...
James Brokenshire | 533 c263 (Link to this contribution)
Parliament has shown itself capable in the past of conducting debates about sensitive issues and of ...
Lord Campbell of Pittenweem | 533 c262-3 (Link to this contribution)
The Government have opted for legislation rather than for the order-making procedure, but by introdu...
Chris Bryant | 533 c268-9 (Link to this contribution)
New clause 14 makes clear some of the specifics involved. If the Government have things they think s...
Chris Bryant | 533 c267-8 (Link to this contribution)
I think we have moved on somewhat; certainly I have. Also, the facts have changed. There was a time ...
David Winnick | 533 c268 (Link to this contribution)
As someone who does not have to move on from 42 days, having taken, in my view, the right decision a...
Chris Bryant | 533 c268 (Link to this contribution)
I think that ““I told you so”” came at the beginning of my hon. Friend's comments. Quite often he do...
Tom Brake | 533 c268 (Link to this contribution)
Has the hon. Gentleman already thought through what some of the safeguards should be to ensure that ...
Chris Bryant | 533 c265-6 (Link to this contribution)
I will start with some general comments and then come directly to the amendments and new clauses. Ob...
James Brokenshire | 533 c267 (Link to this contribution)
I welcome the hon. Gentleman to his position and wish him well in his new responsibilities and dutie...
Chris Bryant | 533 c267 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed—but we are trying to do better, and I honestly think that there is a danger. At that time, wh...
James Brokenshire | 533 c265 (Link to this contribution)
We come back to what I spoke about—the exceptional nature of the powers sought and the point that 14...
Paul Goggins | 533 c274 (Link to this contribution)
I shall give way one more time, but then I want to bring my remarks to a conclusion.
Jeremy Corbyn | 533 c274 (Link to this contribution)
I apologise for missing the earlier part of my right hon. Friend's speech—I was at a meeting in anot...
Paul Goggins | 533 c274 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend knows enough about this matter to know that we cannot draw simple comparisons between...
Paul Goggins | 533 c270-1 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Stone (Mr Cash).
I will focus on new clause 14, whic...
William Cash | 533 c269-70 (Link to this contribution)
I will speak briefly because I have already gone through this issue on a number of occasions.
I bel...
Paul Goggins | 533 c273 (Link to this contribution)
I have enough confidence in the current holder of that position to know that he would set aside his ...
William Cash | 533 c273 (Link to this contribution)
Is the right hon. Gentleman aware of the Attorney-General's views on this question of 14 days, seven...
Paul Goggins | 533 c272-3 (Link to this contribution)
I respect the hon. Gentleman and he and I have had exchanges on this issue, but I contest strongly h...
Ben Gummer | 533 c272 (Link to this contribution)
In the example that the right hon. Gentleman has just used, we do not know, of course, whether the p...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 533 c281 (Link to this contribution)
I can never resist my hon. Friend, although I give way always with a certain degree of trepidation a...
William Cash | 533 c281 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Home Secretary—and may I congratulate her on her staunch statement at the party...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 533 c281-3 (Link to this contribution)
I am happy to confirm that to my hon. Friend. At the general election, Conservative Members, of cour...
David Winnick | 533 c274 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my hon. Friend. I accept that he is a convert to 14 days, although I suspect that i...
Tom Brake | 533 c275 (Link to this contribution)
I shall speak briefly in support of new clause 13. I welcomed the Government's review of counter-ter...
Paul Goggins | 533 c274-5 (Link to this contribution)
I do not accept that it is unrealistic. It would depend on the individual judgment of the Attorney-G...
James Brokenshire | 533 c276-7 (Link to this contribution)
We have had a good debate on the new clauses. I again pay tribute to the work of the Joint Committee...
Alun Michael | 533 c275-6 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister responded reasonably to interventions earlier and I welcome the tone with which he has ...
Baroness May of Maidenhead | 533 c281 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time.
The first responsibility of any Government...
Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 533 c234 (Link to this contribution)
We have lots of time.
Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 533 c234-5 (Link to this contribution)
It should not come as a shock to the Minister to learn that parents do not want people who are barre...
Baroness Featherstone | 533 c235 (Link to this contribution)
As I said, I will come on to that in due course, when I talk about barring information and about wha...
Meg Munn | 533 c232-3 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my hon. Friend for that intervention, because it leads to the point that I wanted to make. I...
Baroness Featherstone | 533 c233-4 (Link to this contribution)
I have always believed that on both sides of the House we are doing what we believe is best for the ...
Meg Munn | 533 c234 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for giving way, because I understand that she is trying to explain the...
Baroness Featherstone | 533 c234 (Link to this contribution)
I shall come on to that because it is a complicated matter to discuss—there is ““regulated””, ““unre...
Baroness Featherstone | 533 c234 (Link to this contribution)
It would be helpful if I could explain the position.
Baroness Featherstone | 533 c236-7 (Link to this contribution)
No; either I misspoke or the hon. Lady misheard. Enhanced CRB checks will be available if an employe...
Baroness Featherstone | 533 c236 (Link to this contribution)
Well, all right, but after this I must make some progress, because I think we are just going round i...
Diana Johnson | 533 c236 (Link to this contribution)
I just want to clarify a point. The Minister said that there were groups, occupations or opportuniti...
Baroness Featherstone | 533 c235 (Link to this contribution)
Okay, but I do feel that I am getting to all the hon. Lady's points.
Diana Johnson | 533 c235 (Link to this contribution)
I am sure that the Minister will get to all my points, but I want to give her an example that fits t...
Diana Johnson | 533 c235 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?
Baroness Featherstone | 533 c235-6 (Link to this contribution)
Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker.
The hon. Member for Kingston upon Hull North could produce endless...
Diana Johnson | 533 c236 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?
Baroness Featherstone | 533 c235 (Link to this contribution)
A taxi driver who worked with children would be entitled to an enhanced CRB check, which would show ...
Speaker | 533 c235 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I am finding it difficult to understand the discussion on these points, given the exchanges t...
Speaker | 533 c225 (Link to this contribution)
With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:
Amendment 111, in clause 66, page 49, lea...
Baroness Featherstone | 533 c224-5 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Lady for being brief. I am sure she will remember that in Committee we apologised f...
Diana Johnson | 533 c225 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Steve McCabe | 533 c231 (Link to this contribution)
Does my hon. Friend accept that the current system has its faults? There are too many examples of th...
Diana Johnson | 533 c231 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend makes a very good point. There are also concerns about the use of fraudulent certific...
Jim Shannon | 533 c231 (Link to this contribution)
Does the hon. Lady agree that the Government also need to be clearer in their explanation of how the...
Diana Johnson | 533 c231 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman makes a good point, because how that system will work is unclear. I cannot get my...
Meg Munn | 533 c231-2 (Link to this contribution)
I shall speak briefly on the issues raised by this group of proposals. As my hon. Friend the Member ...
Speaker | 533 c217 (Link to this contribution)
Order. We had better move on from internal security, which should not be discussed on the Floor of t...
Keith Vaz | 533 c217-8 (Link to this contribution)
We will talk about this later. What the hon. Gentleman did as a wee lad sounds like a fascinating st...
Julian Huppert | 533 c218 (Link to this contribution)
I will try to be brief as we do not have much time left. It is a great pleasure to follow the Chairm...
Keith Vaz | 533 c218 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman's figures are probably much more up to date. I was quoting the figures in the Hom...
Julian Huppert | 533 c218 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the right hon. Gentleman for the correction.
That is one camera for every 14 people in this...
Lord Hanson of Flint | 533 c218 (Link to this contribution)
Time is pressing because of the programme motion, which we opposed. Rather than explain why I shall ...
Baroness Featherstone | 533 c223 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Baroness Featherstone | 533 c224 (Link to this contribution)
These are largely technical amendments, so I can be brief. New clause 12 confers power on the Treasu...
Speaker | 533 c223 (Link to this contribution)
With this it will be convenient to discuss Government amendments 23, 24, 64, 29, 30, 32 and 71.
Diana Johnson | 533 c224 (Link to this contribution)
Like the Minister, I intend to be relatively brief. Let me say clearly that Labour Front Benchers ar...
Lord Hanson of Flint | 533 c202 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for the Minister's support for my comments about my hon. Friend. I assure the Minister...
James Brokenshire | 533 c202 (Link to this contribution)
I, too, put on record, in the nicest possible way, my best wishes to the hon. Member for Gedling (Ve...
Lord Hanson of Flint | 533 c202 (Link to this contribution)
I rise to speak to new clause 16, tabled by my hon. Friends the Members for Eltham (Clive Efford) an...
Speaker | 533 c201 (Link to this contribution)
With this it will be convenient to discuss amendment 110, page 20, line 7, clause 29, leave out
Julian Huppert | 533 c203 (Link to this contribution)
I apologise if I was not quite clear. Would the right hon. Gentleman be comfortable with seeing CCTV...
Lord Hanson of Flint | 533 c203 (Link to this contribution)
I have a vision of CCTV playing a role in stopping crime and catching criminals. Communities in cons...
Keith Vaz | 533 c203 (Link to this contribution)
I congratulate my right hon. Friend on his elevation, or perhaps I should say on his sideways move t...
Lord Hanson of Flint | 533 c203 (Link to this contribution)
I would be comfortable with a reduction in crime like that under the previous Labour Government. I t...
Julian Huppert | 533 c204 (Link to this contribution)
indicated dissent.
Lord Hanson of Flint | 533 c203 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my right hon. Friend for his welcome. One advantage of being in opposition, althoug...
Julian Huppert | 533 c204 (Link to this contribution)
CCTV clearly has a role, which is why the Bill does not make having it illegal and merely tries to r...
Lord Hanson of Flint | 533 c204 (Link to this contribution)
I may be doing the hon. Gentleman a disservice, but I did not get the flavour that he was keen on CC...
Lord Hanson of Flint | 533 c202-3 (Link to this contribution)
Indeed. I strongly appreciate my hon. Friend's support in dealing with the proposals before the Hous...
Julian Huppert | 533 c203 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the right hon. Gentleman for giving way and welcome him to his post. Shortly before the last...
James Brokenshire | 533 c212 (Link to this contribution)
I will give way to the Chairman of the Home Affairs Committee, because I clearly remember our debate...
Keith Vaz | 533 c212-3 (Link to this contribution)
My right hon. Friend the Member for Delyn (Mr Hanson) referred to the statement made by the coalitio...
James Brokenshire | 533 c212 (Link to this contribution)
There is a potential issue of trust and confidence in the public sector as well. In a review of Proj...
James Brokenshire | 533 c213 (Link to this contribution)
It is not a simple question of numbers, but a question of people's trust and confidence in the use o...
Lord Hanson of Flint | 533 c208 (Link to this contribution)
I shall try to find some common ground. I do not necessarily think that the public state sector—the ...
David Hamilton | 533 c212 (Link to this contribution)
In 15 years of being a political animal—I was a councillor before I came here—the only complaints th...
James Brokenshire | 533 c211-2 (Link to this contribution)
I welcome the right hon. Gentleman to his new role. I know he dealt with CCTV issues during his time...
Lord Hanson of Flint | 533 c208-11 (Link to this contribution)
Those are interesting ideas to test in the debate, but we have not got the guidance. I confess to th...
Baroness Blackwood of North Oxford | 533 c208 (Link to this contribution)
In response to my hon. Friend the Member for Dartford (Gareth Johnson), the right hon. Gentleman gav...
Keith Vaz | 533 c215-6 (Link to this contribution)
May I begin by congratulating my right hon. Friend the Member for Delyn (Mr Hanson) on assuming the ...
Gareth Johnson | 533 c216 (Link to this contribution)
Does the right hon. Gentleman accept that an additional challenge is the fact that technology in thi...
Keith Vaz | 533 c216-7 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. Of course, we all have our own technology—I see that the hon...
Lord Evans of Rainow | 533 c217 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman makes an interesting point. Are we not substituting the responsibility of p...
James Brokenshire | 533 c213-4 (Link to this contribution)
At this stage, we take the view that public sector cameras in the purest sense—those of local author...
Tom Blenkinsop | 533 c213 (Link to this contribution)
The code of practice says that only local authorities and police forces"““will be required to have r...
James Brokenshire | 533 c215 (Link to this contribution)
Before I sit down, I shall give way one last time.
James Brokenshire | 533 c215 (Link to this contribution)
It will depend on the nature of the CCTV use—whether it is covert or overt, and whether, if it is co...
Gareth Johnson | 533 c205 (Link to this contribution)
Does the right hon. Gentleman accept that nothing in the Bill is in any way aimed at reducing the am...
Baroness Featherstone | 533 c205 (Link to this contribution)
indicated dissent.
Lord Hanson of Flint | 533 c205 (Link to this contribution)
There is a shaking of a Minister's head, so I hope that will not be the case.
Lord Hanson of Flint | 533 c204-5 (Link to this contribution)
It may happen in Cambridge, but it does not happen in my constituency in north Wales. In fact, most ...
Andrew Miller | 533 c204 (Link to this contribution)
Is it not better to put it slightly differently? Many of our constituents who have suffered nuisance...
Lord Hanson of Flint | 533 c204 (Link to this contribution)
I am trying to make progress, but of course I give way.
Andrew Miller | 533 c204 (Link to this contribution)
Will my right hon. Friend give way?
Lord Hanson of Flint | 533 c204 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman, but he should not put words in other Members' mouths. What I ha...
Lord Hanson of Flint | 533 c207 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my hon. Friend—if I can call him that—for his comments. I shall quote from an artic...
Gareth Johnson | 533 c207 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman is right to raise the case he did. I do not think that anyone in the House ...
Lord Hanson of Flint | 533 c206 (Link to this contribution)
May I helpfully—I hope—agree with the hon. Lady? I believe that we need strong, quality CCTV cameras...
Julian Huppert | 533 c207 (Link to this contribution)
The right hon. Gentleman has given a long list of criteria—he has said that CCTV should be proportio...
Lord Hanson of Flint | 533 c207 (Link to this contribution)
The Opposition's new clause 16 simply says that we want Her Majesty's inspectorate of constabulary t...
Jim Shannon | 533 c207 (Link to this contribution)
In Northern Ireland, we have a large expanse of CCTV. In my area, we have them in our town, but ther...
Lord Hanson of Flint | 533 c205-6 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman, but what concerns me is that the coalition's programme for gove...
Baroness Blackwood of North Oxford | 533 c206 (Link to this contribution)
Does the right hon. Gentleman accept that, in addition to the number of CCTV cameras, it is importan...
Lord Hanson of Flint | 533 c206 (Link to this contribution)
There must indeed be such criteria. On behalf of my right hon. and hon. Friends who tabled new claus...
John Redwood | 533 c292 (Link to this contribution)
Constituents have put to me the case against and in favour; it depends where the CCTV is, what it is...
John Redwood | 533 c291 (Link to this contribution)
I apply exactly the same rules and philosophy to miners as to anybody else. If things were done wron...
Andrew Miller | 533 c283 (Link to this contribution)
Unfortunately we did not manage to complete our scrutiny, because of the timetabling of the Bill. On...
Andrew Miller | 533 c296 (Link to this contribution)
Simply because the curve produced by the self-same Home Office as produced the Bill demonstrates wha...
Baroness Featherstone | 533 c240 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Lady explain how much more complicated it will be than the previous system?
Rehman Chishti | 533 c261 (Link to this contribution)
I have heard the words ““exceptional circumstances”” used. Am I right in saying that including those...
William Cash | 533 c281 (Link to this contribution)
Will my right hon. Friend be kind enough to give way?
Diana Johnson | 533 c226-31 (Link to this contribution)
Under new clause 18, the barred status of an individual would be revealed in a CRB check. The House ...
Baroness Chapman of Darlington | 533 c232 (Link to this contribution)
May I take this opportunity to congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Kingston upon Hull North (...
Andrew Miller | 533 c202 (Link to this contribution)
She is not the only one.
Lord Hanson of Flint | 533 c201 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Keith Vaz | 533 c206 (Link to this contribution)
My right hon. Friend was the Policing Minister when the Home Affairs Committee in the previous Parli...
Ronnie Campbell | 533 c291 (Link to this contribution)
It was not like that during the miners' strike, was it? I remember them coming and knocking on my do...
Diana Johnson | 533 c249 (Link to this contribution)
As I said, I do not intend to press the amendment to a Division and I am pleased that the Government...
Baroness Featherstone | 533 c249 (Link to this contribution)
There is not much time available, so I shall be brief. There was considerable discussion in Committe...
Diana Johnson | 533 c249 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to ask leave to withdraw the amendment.
Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
Proceedings interrup...
Tom Blenkinsop | 533 c215 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for being very generous with his time. I just wanted to ask about the use of mo...
Lord Hanson of Flint | 533 c204 (Link to this contribution)
As ever, my hon. Friend speaks common sense. Perhaps part of the guidance to be issued in due course...
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