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Education Bill

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Wednesday, 20 July 2011, in the House of Lords.
Education Bill. Lords committee stage ninth day. Clauses 36 to 40 agreed to, with clause 37 agreed to as amended. Schedule 11 agreed to. Grand Committee held in the Moses Room. Relevant documents: 15th Report from the Delegated Powers Committee, 13th Report from the Joint Committee on Human Rights.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

729 c431-94GC 

Session

2010-12

Department

Department for Education

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords Grand Committee

Related items

Education Bill. Brought from the Commons. Explanatory Notes HL Bill 67-EN also published.
Thursday, 12 May 2011
Bills
House of Lords
Legislative scrutiny: Education Bill and other bills. Human Rights Joint Select Committee thirteenth report with formal minutes and evidence.
Tuesday, 7 June 2011
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
House of Commons
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee. Fifteenth report on: Education Bill; Localism Bill Parts 1 to 3. (Lords Minutes).
Wednesday, 15 June 2011
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Baroness Massey of Darwen | 729 c444-5GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 108, 109, 110, 111 and 112 in this group. I also support the r...
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 729 c490-1GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, our names have been added to Amendments 115 and 118, so I will speak very briefly. First, ...

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Baroness O'Neill of Bengarve | 729 c490GC (Link to this contribution) My noble friend Lady Coussins, who is attending her daughter’s graduation today, asked me to say a c...
Baroness Massey of Darwen | 729 c458GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the remarks made by the noble Baroness, Lady Walmsley, and my noble friend Lord ...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 729 c462GC (Link to this contribution) Thank you. That clarifies the position as far as I am concerned.
Lord Hill of Oareford | 729 c494GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think this may be a convenient moment for the Committee to adjourn until Monday 12 Septe...
Earl of Listowel | 729 c490GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that your Lordships agree with me that it is vital to give full recognition to thos...
Baroness Garden of Frognal | 729 c491GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall try to speak very quickly, which in no way reflects the seriousness and importance...
Baroness Flather | 729 c491GC (Link to this contribution) Will the noble Baroness take on board that it is not just about culture?
Baroness Garden of Frognal | 729 c491-3GC (Link to this contribution) Indeed we take that on board. Amendments 118 and 120 seek to ensure that particular groups of pupil...
Baroness Walmsley | 729 c493-4GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness for skating so very quickly through her response and yet managi...
Baroness Hooper | 729 c489GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my name is attached to Amendments 117 and 121, and I wish to associate myself with the rem...
Baroness Perry of Southwark | 729 c489GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my noble friend Lord Boswell of Aynho has asked me to flag up for Amendment 122ZA the requ...
Bishop of Ripon and Leeds | 729 c490GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I associate myself, too, with Amendment 116 and the excellent contribution of the noble Ba...
Baroness Massey of Darwen | 729 c437GC (Link to this contribution) That seems to be rather a large jump. Would it not be better to have someone at a local level—a loca...
Lord Peston | 729 c437-8GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have not the faintest idea—I never do—as to how long I am going to speak; I just go on s...
Baroness Massey of Darwen | 729 c436-7GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall not trouble the noble Lord, Lord Sutherland, with having to time me because I shal...
Lord Sutherland of Houndwood | 729 c436GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, on a point of order I wonder whether we could have the timing clocks switched on. I am tem...
Lord Geddes | 729 c436GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there is a technical problem. Unfortunately, the clocks were not switched on at the beginn...
Lord Geddes | 729 c438GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, with great respect to the noble Lord the Minister, another Division has been called. The G...
Lord Geddes | 729 c438GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is now 12.30 pm—at least, I think it is. It is very difficult to see the time against t...
Baroness Ritchie of Brompton | 729 c438GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I had not intended to speak to the amendment, but I should like to express sympathy with w...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 729 c438GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have already discussed in Committee the principles that underline the Government’s educ...
Baroness Perry of Southwark | 729 c435-6GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have two problems with this amendment, although I recognise the concerns expressed by th...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 729 c431-2GC (Link to this contribution) 107A: After Clause 35, insert the following new Clause— ““Local schools commissioner (1) A local aut...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 729 c432-5GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that the Committee will indulge me and perhaps give me a little more time than I ha...
Baroness Ritchie of Brompton | 729 c445-6GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak to my amendment in this group, Amendment 108A. As has been said, the passage...
Lord Sutherland of Houndwood | 729 c446-7GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope to speak to briefly on this question in view of my earlier remarks. This is a cruci...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 729 c438-41GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have already discussed the principles underlying the Government’s education reforms: in...
Lord Geddes | 729 c442GC (Link to this contribution) Before moving on, for the assistance of the noble Lord, Lord Sutherland, I calculate that the debate...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 729 c441-2GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his reply and other noble Lords for their contributions. I make one or two ...
Lord Geddes | 729 c443GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, with great respect to the noble Baroness, yet another Division has been called. If she cou...
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 729 c442-3GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise to oppose the Motion that Clause 36 stand part of the Bill and to speak to the Moti...
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 729 c443-4GC (Link to this contribution) I could bore everyone by starting again, but I am not going to do that. I was talking about how unde...
Lord Geddes | 729 c443GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is now 12.57 pm. The noble Baroness, Lady Jones of Whitchurch, was interrupted in full ...
Baroness Walmsley | 729 c448GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendment proposed by the noble Baroness, Lady Ritchie of Brompton. Governme...
Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 729 c448GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise briefly to support the noble Baroness, Lady Ritchie, and the amendment of the noble...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 729 c448-51GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would like to speak in support of Amendment 111A. I congratulate my noble friend Lady Wh...
Baroness Garden of Frognal | 729 c451GC (Link to this contribution) I apologise for intervening on the noble Lord. He is making a fascinating speech, but it is trespass...
Baroness Whitaker | 729 c447-8GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my Amendment 111A is different in content from the other amendments in the group, but like...
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 729 c454-5GC (Link to this contribution) If that is what we have to rely on, it is to be regretted. It should be much more of a forceful and ...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 729 c451-3GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have discussed more than once in this Committee the strong international evidence that ...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 729 c451GC (Link to this contribution) I understand the noble Baroness is very delicately hinting to me that I am going on too long. I thin...
Lord Sutherland of Houndwood | 729 c454GC (Link to this contribution) May I just clarify? That is the way in which the note is written. It seems to me that there is a pow...
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 729 c453-4GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord for his interesting contribution. Is it the Government’s intention that in fu...
Lord Lucas | 729 c455GC (Link to this contribution) 113: Clause 37, page 34, line 22, at end insert— ““( ) in the case of a primary school, a person nom...
Lord Lucas | 729 c455GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in the Localism Bill we have been setting out to create neighbourhoods that are involved, ...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 729 c458GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, support my noble friend in her amendment. I have been briefed by a number of organ...
Baroness Walmsley | 729 c455-6GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 113ZA in my name and that of the noble Baroness, Lady Howe of I...
Lord Touhig | 729 c456-8GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise at the request of my noble friend Lady Howe to speak to the amendments that she has...
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 729 c460-1GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I very much welcome the contribution of my noble friend Lord Knight, as he attempted to wi...
Lord Knight of Weymouth | 729 c459-60GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wanted to speak to this group of amendments but not because I oppose any of them. In man...
Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 729 c459GC (Link to this contribution) There is a Division in the House. The Committee will adjourn. Sitting suspended for a Division in t...
Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 729 c458-9GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, your Lordships would not but expect me to support the idea that young people should be ful...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 729 c461-2GC (Link to this contribution) I would like just to say a few words on these amendments. Like others in the Room, I have been a gov...
Baroness Walmsley | 729 c462GC (Link to this contribution) All secondary schools should have student governors. There is a role for younger children perhaps to...
Lord Touhig | 729 c462GC (Link to this contribution) In my part of the world we found that the primary school council was a very good conduit into the sc...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 729 c462-3GC (Link to this contribution) Certainly student councils are an important thing to encourage, but some younger students in particu...
Baroness Brinton | 729 c463GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Knight, and the noble Baroness, Lady Jones, referred to how the word ...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 729 c463-4GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like other noble Lords, I shall start by thanking the 300,000 governors who work so hard f...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 729 c464-5GC (Link to this contribution) I accept that, my Lords. There are ways of dealing with that, but there are a range of other practic...
Baroness Walmsley | 729 c464GC (Link to this contribution) It is common practice, whenever there are issues such as the Minister has just mentioned, for staff ...
Lord Lucas | 729 c465GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank my noble friend for his comprehensive reply. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment...
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 729 c469-71GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, our Amendments 114A and 122ZB would apply the same provisions to FE. Under Clause 39, onc...
Lord Sutherland of Houndwood | 729 c468-9GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the clause is very radical in its consequences. Amendments 113D, 114 and 114A are all fire...
Lord Lucas | 729 c467-8GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I take a more radical view than my noble friend, although if her amendment was accepted a ...
Baroness Perry of Southwark | 729 c466-7GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I speak to Amendment 114. I entirely support Clause 39. It is absolutely right that academ...
Baroness Walmsley | 729 c466GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 113D would make sure that, where schools are not regularly inspected by Ofsted, ...
Baroness Walmsley | 729 c466GC (Link to this contribution) 113D: Clause 39, page 35, line 15, at end insert ““except that regulations must provide for inspecti...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 729 c465-6GC (Link to this contribution) 113C: Clause 37, page 34, line 30, at end insert— ““(4ZA) Regulations made by virtue of subsection (...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 729 c465GC (Link to this contribution) 113AA: Clause 37, page 34, line 23, at end insert— ““(ba) a person elected as a staff governor, (bb)...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 729 c471-3GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have put my name to the Motion that this clause should not stand part of the Bill. I fin...
Bishop of Ripon and Leeds | 729 c473-4GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I want to add my voice to the concern about Clause 39 and particularly to support Amendmen...
Lord Knight of Weymouth | 729 c480GC (Link to this contribution) In respect of information for parents, can the Minister clarify Clause 39(4)? It refers to charging ...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 729 c478-80GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall come back to the issue of the trigger and the risk assessment which lie at the cor...
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 729 c480GC (Link to this contribution) The Secretary of State can, of course, produce draft regulations in future using the clause in this ...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 729 c480GC (Link to this contribution) No, that should not be an issue. There would not be a charge in those circumstances. Perhaps I might...
Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 729 c475-7GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall not repeat all the arguments about why we should continue with inspection because ...
Lord Knight of Weymouth | 729 c474-5GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the position of the noble Lord, Lord Sutherland, in particular. Like him, I woul...
Earl of Listowel | 729 c477GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was sorry to be absent from these proceedings this morning but I was attending a youth c...
Baroness Massey of Darwen | 729 c477GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there have been many wise words said this afternoon. Some sort of consensus is emerging th...
Baroness Sharp of Guildford | 729 c474GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would just like briefly to say that I have some sympathy with this set of amendments and...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 729 c480-1GC (Link to this contribution) I will write on the point of detail. I had this explained to me earlier. The difficulty is because a...
Baroness Walmsley | 729 c482-3GC (Link to this contribution) In which case, I have to declare that I am very unhappy about that. I rather suspect that my concern...
Baroness Walmsley | 729 c482GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been a very thorough and rigorous debate and I do not intend to summarise the who...
Lord Lucas | 729 c481-2GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful for what my noble friend has said. I do not really think that saying that th...
Baroness Whitaker | 729 c485GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I very much agree with the noble Baroness, Lady Flather, but in the interests of time I sh...
Baroness Flather | 729 c484-5GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 116. All the amendments concern the role of Ofsted and it is ve...
Baroness Walmsley | 729 c483-4GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendment 120. We are now moving to Clause 40, which sets out the ne...
Baroness Walmsley | 729 c483GC (Link to this contribution) 115: Clause 40, page 36, line 25, after ““achievement”” insert ““and well-being””
Lord Hill of Oareford | 729 c481GC (Link to this contribution) I will get some clever person to write me something that will explain why that is the case. The nob...
Lord Knight of Weymouth | 729 c481GC (Link to this contribution) When the Minister writes, will he also clarify how, if it is difficult to pin it down in primary leg...
Lord Ouseley | 729 c487-8GC (Link to this contribution) That is helpful, and I thank the Minister. I will refer not to a lighter touch, but if in fact the s...
Lord Hill of Oareford | 729 c487GC (Link to this contribution) I hope I would have said that what we hope to get from boiling it down is a sharper focus, not a lig...
Lord Ouseley | 729 c488GC (Link to this contribution) Thank you very much. I acknowledge what the noble Baroness has said, and I am about to conclude. How...
Baroness Garden of Frognal | 729 c488GC (Link to this contribution) I apologise for interrupting the noble Lord. We are in rather strange circumstances. We have agreed ...
Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 729 c489GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will ask a brief but important question in relation to the amendment tabled by the noble...
Lord Lucas | 729 c488-9GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the noble Baroness, Lady Flather, and I hope that she brings her amendment back ...
Lord Sutherland of Houndwood | 729 c489GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the amendments tabled by my noble friends Lord Quirk and Lord Ouseley belong closely toget...
Lord McAvoy | 729 c485-6GC (Link to this contribution) I rise very briefly, just for a few minutes, to speak on Amendment 116. When the noble Baroness, Lad...
Lord Ouseley | 729 c487GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 118. To an extent, I support what the noble Baroness, Lady Walm...
Lord Quirk | 729 c486GC (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in a spirit of attempting to clarify rather than add to the duties of Ofsted, the proposer...

Subjects

Curriculum
Buildings
Design
Equality
Education
Governing bodies
Inspections
Exemptions
Faith schools
Languages
Local government
Public appointments
Pupils
Primary education
Standards
Vocational guidance
Religion
Safety
Students
Academies
Free schools
Ofsted
Maintained schools

Legislation

Education Bill 2010-12

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