Localism Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Thursday, 7 July 2011, in the House of Lords.

Localism Bill. Lords committee stage sixth day. Clauses 74 to 91, 94 agreed to, with clauses 82, 83, 85 agreed to as amended. Schedule 8 agreed to.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

729 c355-81, c393-464

Session

2010-12

Proceeding contributions

Lord Greaves | 729 c356-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, here we go again. I will speak also to Amendment 135A in this group. Amendment 133A challe...

Lord Greaves | 729 c355 (Link to this contribution) 133E: Clause 74, page 61, line 9, leave out subsection (3)

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Lord Patel of Bradford | 729 c377-8 (Link to this contribution) I take on broad the point the noble Lord is making but I think the Minister would agree—going back t...

Lord Greaves | 729 c378 (Link to this contribution) I am entirely in favour, as the noble Lord is, of having partnerships with the private sector and ge...

Lord Patel of Bradford | 729 c376-7 (Link to this contribution) I genuinely think that this stand part debate has got to the crux of many of the amendments laid bef...

Lord Greaves | 729 c377 (Link to this contribution) It is a slightly different question. I am stimulated to stand up by the mention of Manningham Mills....

Baroness Hamwee | 729 c373 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord and I live in and have represented the same borough; he still does, and alt...

Lord True | 729 c373 (Link to this contribution) I certainly have doubts as to whether we need a list of assets of community value and a list of thin...

Lord Avebury | 729 c376 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not want to interrupt the thread of the noble Earl's argument, but did I understand h...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 729 c373-4 (Link to this contribution) I rise briefly to underline the point made by the noble Lord, Lord Cameron of Dillington, that once ...

Earl of Lytton | 729 c374-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is such a complex part of what is in any event a complex Bill with a new concept of l...

Lord Beecham | 729 c368 (Link to this contribution) Would the noble Lord not agree that it is most important to deal with that problem because it is a r...

Lord Shipley | 729 c368 (Link to this contribution) I fully understand that the Bill does not deal with precisely that problem, but I am trying to give ...

Lord Greaves | 729 c368-70 (Link to this contribution) This has been a very interesting debate and I am stimulated to make one or two comments in view of w...

Lord Fellowes of West Stafford | 729 c370-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would like to make a brief observation about this business of declaring private assets t...

Lord True | 729 c371-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will briefly extend the remarks that I made on Tuesday—before I had to leave—on the pote...

Baroness Thornton | 729 c364-5 (Link to this contribution) If I can continue with my remarks I think there will be some agreement across the House. We would al...

Earl Cathcart | 729 c365-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was in two minds whether to speak on this but I have something here that I prepared earl...

Baroness Thornton | 729 c366 (Link to this contribution) I am bound to ask, what about railway sidings, for example? What about waste land in cities? What ab...

Earl Cathcart | 729 c366-7 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness raises a good point—what about them, indeed? If communities do not use them at th...

Lord Shipley | 729 c367-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I agree with the noble Baroness, Lady Thornton, in a number of respects, not least in that...

Baroness Thornton | 729 c364 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we need to recognise this for what it is—a full-frontal attack on this part of the Bill. I...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 729 c364 (Link to this contribution) What more does the noble Baroness think this part of the Bill will give to what already existed for ...

Lord Cameron of Dillington | 729 c362 (Link to this contribution) I accept that there are other community assets. As I said, I think that the open-space community ass...

Lord Reay | 729 c362-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as this is the first time that I have spoken at the Committee stage of the Bill, I would l...

Lord Cameron of Dillington | 729 c359-62 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I rise, at last, to speak in this clause stand part debate. I shall speak to whether all t...

Lord Greaves | 729 c359 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I gave notice of my intention to oppose the Question that Clause 74 stand part of the Bill...

Lord Howard of Rising | 729 c357 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before speaking to Amendments 134 and 135, I should declare some interests. I am a distric...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c357-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank both noble Lords for their points on this matter, to which I shall respond briefly...

Lord Patel of Bradford | 729 c419 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Lord sits down, could I just ask a question of clarification? Did I hear correctly ...

Baroness Thornton | 729 c418 (Link to this contribution) How would the noble Lord feel if a vicar leading a group to turn the local shop into a community sho...

Lord Howard of Rising | 729 c419 (Link to this contribution) Yes, that is precisely what I am suggesting. There would be nothing to prevent a local interest grou...

Lord Mawson | 729 c417-8 (Link to this contribution) I shall speak specifically to Amendment 147A. I notice that the noble Baroness, Lady Eaton, has now ...

Lord Howard of Rising | 729 c418 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 145 seeks to place a time limit on how long a community interest group is given ...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 729 c410 (Link to this contribution) 143: Clause 82, page 66, line 13, leave out ““C”” and insert ““D””

Baroness Hanham | 729 c410 (Link to this contribution) If noble Lords know the answer to that, I shall be extremely grateful. I shall have to write to the ...

Lord Beecham | 729 c410 (Link to this contribution) I understand that and am grateful to the noble Baroness. That of course means that there is a way ou...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c410 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, and the noble Lords, Lord Beecham and Lord Taylor...

Baroness Hamwee | 729 c408 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was intending to ask some questions on the clause.

Baroness Hanham | 729 c406-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this group comprises various minor and technical government amendments to improve the work...

Lord Beecham | 729 c408 (Link to this contribution) I have three short questions on Clause 83. The noble Baroness may not be able to answer them immedia...

Lord Taylor of Goss Moor | 729 c409-10 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I welcome much that the noble Baroness said about the Government’s willingness to look at ...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c408-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have nearly finished. I apologise that I have been rather long. In fact, I have only ano...

Baroness Hamwee | 729 c409 (Link to this contribution) My question on Clause 83 has turned into a short supplementary to the questions asked by the noble L...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c415 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we keep coming back to the same issue. I take the point that we probably need to look at t...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c416 (Link to this contribution) 143ZB: Clause 82, page 66, line 14, leave out ““the owner”” and insert ““that particular person”” ...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 729 c415-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend for those answers and for her sympathetic ear to these pr...

Baroness Thornton | 729 c416-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendment 147A. I realise that we are moving to a sensitive part of ...

Baroness Thornton | 729 c416 (Link to this contribution) 143A: Clause 82, page 66, line 20, at end insert— ““( ) where the owner is a public body, any commun...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 729 c411-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I listened very carefully to what my noble friend said in her introductory remarks to this...

Lord Cotter | 729 c413 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 143ZA. There is an overall concern that the Bill is sometimes ai...

Lord Gardiner of Kimble | 729 c413-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 144A in my name and that of my noble friend Lord Cathcart. The i...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c414 (Link to this contribution) I start by reiterating that I hope it is clear that we on these Benches very much want to see the Go...

Earl of Lytton | 729 c414 (Link to this contribution) What the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie, has just said highlights the fact that we are trying to talk abo...

Lord Cameron of Dillington | 729 c415 (Link to this contribution) The nub of the issue is the change of use.

Lord Howard of Rising | 729 c401 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in moving Amendment 137 I shall also speak to Amendment 138. These amendments would allow ...

Lord Patel of Bradford | 729 c401 (Link to this contribution) I have just a very short point to make about the noble Lord’s amendment. One would think that it wou...

Baroness Thornton | 729 c400-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for her response. I think she has won over the Bradfordian p...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c400 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are not trying to make this overcomplicated. I am trying to simplify the local authorit...

Lord Taylor of Goss Moor | 729 c400 (Link to this contribution) I still find think this is overcomplex. At the point at which an organisation has nominated somethin...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c400 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the decision by the local authority would probably have to be made on only a very few occa...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c398-9 (Link to this contribution) That is as it stands. Amendment 136B proposes restricting those who may be specified in regulations...

Lord Beecham | 729 c398 (Link to this contribution) Again, taking up the point of the noble Lord, Lord True, that might be quite burdensome for some dis...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c398 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the district would in that case maintain the list; the lower authority maintains the list....

Lord Howard of Rising | 729 c401 (Link to this contribution) 137: Clause 77, page 63, line 15, leave out ““must”” and insert ““may””

Baroness Hanham | 729 c404-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, five of these amendments look to remove the requirements on the local authority to give re...

Lord Howard of Rising | 729 c405-6 (Link to this contribution) I cannot say that the explanation thrills me. What is proposed will create an immense amount of work...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c406 (Link to this contribution) 142A: Clause 82, page 66, line 11, at beginning insert ““A person who is””

Lord True | 729 c403 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, again, I have some sympathy for my noble friend’s arguments. Any noble Lord who has seen, ...

Lord Howard of Rising | 729 c402-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this group of amendments seeks to remove the requirement for a local authority to give rea...

Lord True | 729 c404 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the noble Lord’s point on transparency. My point is simply that, given the potential le...

Lord True | 729 c402 (Link to this contribution) I understand the point made by my noble friend the Minister, but I have some sympathy with the amend...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c401-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is the Government’s intention to set out a definition of an asset of community value in...

Lord Howard of Rising | 729 c402 (Link to this contribution) 139: Clause 77, page 63, line 23, leave out subsection (6)

Lord Howard of Rising | 729 c402 (Link to this contribution) The Minister said, ““If we get it right for the whole country””. If it were possible for whatever is...

Lord Tope | 729 c380 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very grateful for the noble Baroness’s offer of further discussions, negotiations and...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c379 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that was a good debate. We had a very long time for it, and quite a lot of it had very lit...

Lord Patel of Bradford | 729 c378 (Link to this contribution) It is ironic that this Bill could be the trigger to sort out Bradford Park Avenue, because a team ca...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c380 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord is right. I suspect that the intention is to put something in regulations b...

Lord Beecham | 729 c380 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, on a different point, the Minister referred just now to compensation, as she did on Tuesda...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c380 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is not for me to consider. As the noble Lord knows, government business and the timing ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c380 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I endorse what the noble Lord has just said. We increasingly have concerns about the timin...

Baroness Thornton | 729 c393 (Link to this contribution) 136A: Clause 76, page 62, line 38, at end insert— ““( ) by a community organisation operating in the...

Lord Brabazon of Tara | 729 c381 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before we move on to the lunch hour business, there are about a dozen amendments which hav...

Lord Cameron of Dillington | 729 c381 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank noble Lords for what I thought was a very good debate. I want to make it clear tha...

Lord Beecham | 729 c398 (Link to this contribution) The problem is that you have a district council within a county area, so the resident and land may b...

Earl Cathcart | 729 c393 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 136B. There has been much concern that individuals will be allo...

Baroness Thornton | 729 c393 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, given the comprehensive debate we had before the break, I intend to speak for about 30 sec...

Lord Beecham | 729 c396 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I almost feel the need to apologise for not being a refugee from the dark satanic mills of...

Lord Mawson | 729 c393-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise for coming in and out of the debate on Tuesday and missing the key parts of th...

Lord Beecham | 729 c396-7 (Link to this contribution) That is presumably why there are refugees in your Lordships' House. My amendments are designed slig...

Lord Greaves | 729 c396 (Link to this contribution) All Bradford’s problems stem from the fact that the mills all closed down quite a long time ago.

Lord Patel of Bradford | 729 c397 (Link to this contribution) There is a consistent message here about making sure that local community groups take advantage of t...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c397 (Link to this contribution) My Lords—

Baroness Hanham | 729 c398 (Link to this contribution) I apologise for getting up too early. I had not realised the Front Bench was boxing and coxing and a...

Lord Cotter | 729 c397 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my Amendment 139A states: "““In considering whether to accept a community nomination, a lo...

Lord Beecham | 729 c427 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we will have to see what happens as regards the draft regulations. I cannot say that I am ...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c427 (Link to this contribution) 147E: Clause 85, page 68, line 9, at end insert— ““(vii) appeals against decisions made under the re...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c427 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise, the noble Lord did correct himself. However, we still believe that we have a ...

Lord Beecham | 729 c426 (Link to this contribution) I had intended to say that depends entirely on the district valuer.

Lord Beecham | 729 c428 (Link to this contribution) Would the noble Lord concede that in children’s or adult services there might be a need and a demand...

Lord Beecham | 729 c428 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this amendment reverts to the issue that I raised previously about districts within counti...

Lord Greaves | 729 c428 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have tabled Amendments 147FA and 147FB in this group. I do not wish to pursue the techni...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c427 (Link to this contribution) 147F: After Clause 87, insert the following new Clause— ““Co-operation If different parts of any lan...

Lord Beecham | 729 c427 (Link to this contribution) 147FZA: Clause 91, page 70, leave out lines 14 to 22 and insert— ““(a) a London borough, (b) a metro...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c422 (Link to this contribution) 147B: Clause 83, page 67, line 7, leave out ““, assignment or surrender”” and insert ““or assignment...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c422-3 (Link to this contribution) 147D: After Clause 84, insert the following new Clause— ““Informing owner of request to be treated a...

Lord Greaves | 729 c423 (Link to this contribution) 147DA: After Clause 84, insert the following new Clause— ““Local authority additional powers for ass...

Lord Greaves | 729 c423-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have tabled the amendment in order to discuss the role of local authorities and other pu...

Lord True | 729 c426 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Beecham, for raising this matter. I referred to it i...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c426 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the question of regulations is not going to be in my hands. I will make sure that the requ...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c424 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we appreciate the intention of this amendment and agree that local authorities have an imp...

Lord Greaves | 729 c424-5 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for saying what I thought she would say—but it is important to have it...

Lord Beecham | 729 c425 (Link to this contribution) 147DB: Clause 85, page 67, line 34, leave out ““may”” and insert ““must””

Lord Beecham | 729 c425 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Minister and I have previously exchanged amicable words about the question of compensa...

Lord Berkeley | 729 c437-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very pleased to support these amendments. They are some of the most important ones in...

Baroness Andrews | 729 c435-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very happy to support the amendment and to follow the noble Lord in much of what he s...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 729 c441-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will not enter into that controversy, but I will say that it is quite nostalgic to be di...

Baroness Andrews | 729 c442 (Link to this contribution) Since the Minister raises that point, my argument would be that the conservation of historic buildin...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c439-40 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have put my name to these amendments and am happy to support them. The noble Lord, Lord ...

Lord Lucas | 729 c440 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie of Luton, contrasted two definitions of sustainability—their...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 729 c442-3 (Link to this contribution) Of course, my Lords, it is a detail; it is an illustration. All noble Lords have said that they felt...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 729 c442 (Link to this contribution) The case that I was making, if I may repeat it, is that the materials used and the standards require...

Lord Berkeley | 729 c442 (Link to this contribution) Is the Minister suggesting that it would be better if one of my noble friend’s buildings fell down? ...

Lord Greaves | 729 c428-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the last point might apply in some places. If it does, the basic power should rest with th...

Lord Beecham | 729 c429 (Link to this contribution) Did the noble Lord by any chance replace the Secretary of State as a vice-president of the Local Gov...

Lord Greaves | 729 c429 (Link to this contribution) I would like to replace the Secretary of State, but I do not think that there is much possibility of...

Earl Cathcart | 729 c429 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord, Lord Beecham, has twice raised an interesting point about county councils having car...

Lord Beecham | 729 c429 (Link to this contribution) That is what I suggested under a previous amendment, but I think the whole area needs looking at.

Baroness Hanham | 729 c429-30 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that was an amusing exchange. I look forward to seeing the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, takin...

Lord Greaves | 729 c430 (Link to this contribution) 147FC: Before Clause 94, insert the following new Clause— ““The purpose of planning Before section 1...

Lord Greaves | 729 c431-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 147FD to 147FF, which are grouped. We had a good debate a...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 729 c434 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have read these new clauses with some interest. I am not sure that they could sensibly f...

Lord Cameron of Dillington | 729 c434-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the amendments in this group. I put my name to them but was too late to get on t...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c421 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we are continuing to cover ground that we have largely covered previously, but in the inte...

Lord Patel of Bradford | 729 c420 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will speak briefly in support of Amendments 143A and 147A. As noble Lords have heard, t...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 729 c419-20 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my Amendments 146 and 147 in this group have been slightly overtaken by the paper that my ...

Lord Tope | 729 c419 (Link to this contribution) Some people are capable of misunderstanding.

Baroness Thornton | 729 c422 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister again for repeating what she has now said three times. Indeed, I believe she ga...

Baroness Hanham | 729 c422 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, is correct. The moratorium does not prevent property being p...

Lord Greaves | 729 c422 (Link to this contribution) Am I right in thinking that during the six-month period there is a moratorium on disposal but not on...

Lord Howard of Rising | 729 c419 (Link to this contribution) I did say that it has been the Conservative Party’s policy.

Lord Tope | 729 c419 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, for the avoidance of doubt, I should make it clear that that is not the coalition Governme...

Lord Howard of Rising | 729 c419 (Link to this contribution) I did not say that that is my party’s policy. Let me just see from my notes what I said—I did think ...

Lord Greaves | 729 c463 (Link to this contribution) The Minister said, about amending the local development frameworks or documents, that authorities sh...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 729 c463 (Link to this contribution) When I made my introduction to the Government’s position on this, I hope that I made it quite clear ...

Baroness Andrews | 729 c462-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, requiring local authorities to go through this process is completely inimical to the idea ...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 729 c463 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps it would help if I reiterate what I said before. There is no conflict here. It is ...

Lord Best | 729 c464 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I must confess to being a bit disappointed. I clearly did not explain the position adequat...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c448-9 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I had the 11 am, rather than the 11.10, list this morning. Amendment 147FFA Moved by

Lord Greaves | 729 c448 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord is in the position that I was in on Tuesday of having an old list. In the interests o...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c448 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was not sure that we had formally debated Amendment 147FF, which is in a separate group—...

Lord Lucas | 729 c445 (Link to this contribution) I very much support what my noble friend Lord Taylor of Goss Moor said. It is terribly important for...

Lord Berkeley | 729 c444-5 (Link to this contribution) Can I just add to those comments? The noble Lord, Lord Taylor of Goss Moor, introduced some very int...

Baroness Andrews | 729 c444 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I completely agree with the noble Lord. I think that was a very eloquent exposition of the...

Lord Taylor of Goss Moor | 729 c443-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have listened carefully to what the Minister had to say but, although I welcome the Gove...

Lord Greaves | 729 c446-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank everybody who has taken part in this interesting debate, not least my noble friend...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 729 c445-6 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I can start with the whole business of neighbourhood planning, because in some ways this is ...

Lord Lucas | 729 c445 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry if I coupled those words in the wrong way. I meant that it had to be both. It has to be t...

Lord Greaves | 729 c445 (Link to this contribution) Can I ask the noble Lord to decouple the words ““wettest”” and ““least attractive””? Some of the wet...

Baroness Hamwee | 729 c454 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there is a great appetite to see the document. However, on the matter of timing, I note th...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 729 c454-5 (Link to this contribution) I assure my noble friend Lady Hamwee that this is at the heart of what we are trying to achieve. Th...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 729 c453-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been a useful debate, which has reinforced our previous debate and put the NPPF a...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c449-50 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this amendment relates to the national planning policy framework, which we have just discu...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c449 (Link to this contribution) 147FFA: Before Clause 94, insert the following new Clause— ““National Planning Policy Framework (1) ...

Lord Reay | 729 c451-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there was considerable discussion in the debate on the previous group of amendments about ...

Lord Berkeley | 729 c450-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my Amendment 166VZC is grouped, and I of course support my noble friend Lord McKenzie's am...

Lord Greaves | 729 c452 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I would like to add a couple of points. Following on what my noble friend Lady Hamwee has ...

Baroness Hamwee | 729 c452 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we shall come, although not tonight, to clauses in the Bill dealing with national policy s...

Lord Greaves | 729 c453 (Link to this contribution) I stand reprimanded by the noble Lord. All this excitement obviously took place in a period when I c...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 729 c453 (Link to this contribution) In the House, we had some very good debates and amendments that were debated. When the Government pu...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 729 c457 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord is quite right: there is no reference to the NPPF in the Bill. The Government have no...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c457 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister just say why? I know it is not there at the moment and that he will not accept thi...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c456-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful to the Minister for his reply and for the contributions from other nobl...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 729 c456 (Link to this contribution) I cannot give an answer to the noble Baroness at this moment but I can assure her that when the copy...

Baroness Andrews | 729 c456 (Link to this contribution) This may be the only time we get a chance to discuss the NPPF. I understand that guidance on the NPP...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 729 c455-6 (Link to this contribution) I have a note here to say that we are working with the lead departments to ensure that the national ...

Lord Berkeley | 729 c455 (Link to this contribution) But we do not stand on the platform for a year.

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 729 c455 (Link to this contribution) Like the train, one might say that they will be along in due course, but I do not have the timetable...

Lord Berkeley | 729 c455 (Link to this contribution) That is good news and what I understood myself. Will the Minister give any indication of when the mi...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 729 c455 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend Lord Jenkin is absolutely right. I am happy to confirm that and I thank him for his ...

Lord Jenkin of Roding | 729 c455 (Link to this contribution) Can the Minister confirm what has always been my understanding that the national policy statements w...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 729 c460-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to noble Lords for raising this issue because it is important that the Gover...

Baroness Andrews | 729 c461 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is not the point. We agree that regional spatial strategies should not be revisited; ...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 729 c461-2 (Link to this contribution) I may not be addressing the immediate point of the debate; I was trying to put the Government’s posi...

Baroness Hamwee | 729 c462 (Link to this contribution) The Minister referred to the inclusion in the coalition agreement of the abolition of the regional s...

Lord Greaves | 729 c459-60 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, support the thrust of the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Best. I am concerned t...

Baroness Andrews | 729 c459 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is a very important amendment and it is supported by other organisations as well as t...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c460 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, briefly, I support Amendment 147FG for the reasons that the noble Lord, Lord Best, has ver...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 729 c457 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, again, I am grateful to the Minister for that response. As I understand it, he is saying t...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 729 c457 (Link to this contribution) I am answering the question directly. I think the noble Lord wants to know what the Government’s pos...

Lord Best | 729 c458-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment 147FG relates to Clause 94 and the abolition of regional strategies. I fully acc...

Lord Best | 729 c457-8 (Link to this contribution) 147FG: Clause 94, page 71, line 40, at end insert— ““(3A) Subsection (3) shall not apply to those po...

Earl of Lytton | 729 c376 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, absolutely not. I was going to go on to say that there are many examples where owners take...

Baroness Thornton | 729 c362 (Link to this contribution) Does the noble Lord accept that these provisions are not primarily directed at post offices and pubs...

Lord Greaves | 729 c358 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful for those answers. The question in the back of my mind is the extra staffing...

Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 729 c408 (Link to this contribution) The Minister has not yet moved the amendment.

Lord Taylor of Goss Moor | 729 c399-400 (Link to this contribution) I declare my interest as both chair of the Rural Coalition and chair of the National Housing Federat...

Lord Patel of Bradford | 729 c404 (Link to this contribution) I will be very brief. The noble Lord, Lord True, has touched upon some of the key issues and the nob...

Baroness Byford | 729 c438-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I should like to add a few comments to those made by the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, in movi...

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