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European Union Bill

Debate on bills on Tuesday, 8 March 2011, in the House of Commons, led by James Clappison. The answering member was David Lidington.
European Union Bill. Report stage debate. New clause 1: Provision of documentation under Part 1 debated and withdrawn. New clause 2: Parliament Act 1911 in relation to sections 1 to 7 debated and withdrawn. New clause 3: Decisions subject to special referral procedure in TFEU, discussed with New clause 4: Certain decisions under article 312 of TFEU requiring approval by Act and by referendum and New clause 5: Certain decisions under Article 311 of TFEU, debated and withdrawn. Clause 10: Parliamentary control of certain decisions not requiring approval by Act amended. Third reading debate. Agreed to on question and Bill passed. [Relevant documents: Tenth Report from the European Scrutiny Committee, The EU Bill and Parliamentary sovereignty, HC 633, and the Government response, First Special Report, HC 723; Fifteenth Report from the European Scrutiny Committee, The EU Bill: Restrictions on Treaties and Decisions relating to the EU, HC 682, and the Government response, Second Special Report, HC 852.]

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

524 c779-876 

Session

2010-12

Department

Foreign and Commonwealth Office

Legislative stage

Third reading and Report stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Commons chamber

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Proceeding contributions

Lord Hague of Richmond | 524 c852-3 (Link to this contribution) The eurozone treaty change is in the interests of the United Kingdom; let us be clear about that. Th...
Chris Heaton-Harris | 524 c832-3 (Link to this contribution) I should begin by apologising to the House for being so keen to table a number of new clauses and am...

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Chris Heaton-Harris | 524 c833 (Link to this contribution) I was not asserting that, although we have given away lots of justice and home affairs powers, and I...
Steve Baker | 524 c833 (Link to this contribution) I admire my hon. Friend's tenacity, but I am only a simple engineer, so may I confirm that he has sa...
Chris Heaton-Harris | 524 c833-4 (Link to this contribution) Quite possibly, but that is the essence of democracy, and one of the reasons we were put here in the...
Kelvin Hopkins | 524 c833 (Link to this contribution) I find the hon. Gentleman's arguments very persuasive. At least we, as well as Germany, could stand ...
Geoffrey Cox | 524 c834 (Link to this contribution) Why has my hon. Friend chosen to put a veto in the hands of the other place? I can understand why th...
Chris Heaton-Harris | 524 c834 (Link to this contribution) Well, that sounded better to me when I was writing it down. It seemed perfectly logical for this to ...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 524 c834 (Link to this contribution) The House of Lords has an absolute veto on statutory instruments and many other things. It is only l...
Chris Heaton-Harris | 524 c834 (Link to this contribution) I could not have put it better myself. Moving swiftly on, new clause 4 addresses the post-2013 fina...
Steve Baker | 524 c834 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend not agree, however, that the fact of the situation in which we find ourselves is...
David Lidington | 524 c815-6 (Link to this contribution) The remedy that my hon. Friend seeks can be obtained by Committees and the House being energetic in ...
William Cash | 524 c815 (Link to this contribution) Has it not occurred to the Minister that if a serious question of accountability arises as a consequ...
David Lidington | 524 c814-5 (Link to this contribution) I simply remind all hon. Members who want to take forward these wider arguments that I said in my wr...
Speaker | 524 c814 (Link to this contribution) Order. I am sure that we want to deal with new clause 1, and I am sure the Minister recognises that ...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 524 c820 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for his intervention, but I am afraid that he entirely misses the point. In f...
Martin Horwood | 524 c820 (Link to this contribution) With the hon. Gentleman's combination of eloquence, erudition and traditionalism, he is well on the ...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 524 c819-20 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time. The purpose of new clause 2 is to exempt most...
James Clappison | 524 c817-8 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my right hon. Friend the Minister for the care and attention that he has taken in a...
David Lidington | 524 c816-7 (Link to this contribution) I look forward to visiting my hon. Friend and seeing the framed Hansard extract of my argument. I co...
William Cash | 524 c816 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is expertly demonstrating the complete, total lack of democracy in the EU. If e...
David Lidington | 524 c812 (Link to this contribution) When speaking on behalf of the Government, I must be careful not to presume to represent a collectiv...
David Lidington | 524 c812 (Link to this contribution) That is clearly already possible under our system if a European measure comes forward that requires ...
William Cash | 524 c812 (Link to this contribution) The Minister is moving away from the proposals put forward by the hon. Member for Birmingham, Edgbas...
Wayne David | 524 c814 (Link to this contribution) Before the Minister finally moves on, I point out that I have been thinking long and hard about what...
David Lidington | 524 c814 (Link to this contribution) I know that the hon. Gentleman has at least been consistent in pushing that line, but I have to remi...
David Lidington | 524 c813 (Link to this contribution) That is certainly an interesting suggestion. I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for his compliment....
Michael Connarty | 524 c813 (Link to this contribution) I could share many happy memories of that lady turning up in Standing Committees of which she was no...
Speaker | 524 c813 (Link to this contribution) Order. Can we bring the debate back, please, to new clause 1?
William Cash | 524 c813 (Link to this contribution) I would very much welcome the idea of having, for example, European questions in the House. I have m...
Ben Gummer | 524 c808 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an important point, because it is patently obvious how difficult it is for the ...
Robert Buckland | 524 c810 (Link to this contribution) His excellent speech; I am happy to be corrected. My hon. Friend the Member for Dover made an import...
Robert Buckland | 524 c808-9 (Link to this contribution) I disagree, because I think that the term used in the Bill in relation to significance is very well ...
Wayne David | 524 c808 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman may well have a point. He focuses on the word ““relevant””, but does he agree tha...
David Lidington | 524 c811-2 (Link to this contribution) That would be a matter for debate. I have heard dissatisfaction with the current scrutiny arrangemen...
William Cash | 524 c811 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that the Minister would not want to misrepresent the differences between the two Scrutiny ...
David Lidington | 524 c810-1 (Link to this contribution) This has been a genuinely interesting debate which—somewhat unusually for European debates, dare I s...
Laura Sandys | 524 c808 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that taking that proposal forward and evolving it over the next couple of ...
Ian Davidson | 524 c805 (Link to this contribution) Has not the Liberal position traditionally been to want British Ministers to go naked into the confe...
Ben Gummer | 524 c806 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend the Member for Aldridge-Brownhills (Mr Shepherd) reminded us that the purpose of the ...
Martin Horwood | 524 c805-6 (Link to this contribution) I am not sure that we have a party policy on nakedness in general—although I shall certainly consult...
Ben Gummer | 524 c806-7 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has made a powerful point, but the public often have interests beyond the Europea...
Ian Davidson | 524 c806 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that our constituents generally take European matters much more seriou...
Ben Gummer | 524 c807 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend has expressed that with much greater concision than I have managed, and embarra...
Ben Gummer | 524 c807-8 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady has clarified that beautifully. It argues for wider consideration of such issues in th...
Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 524 c807 (Link to this contribution) The release of the papers would indeed have helped. The subsequent interpretation of the working tim...
Charlie Elphicke | 524 c804 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a powerful point. I do not think that it is for me, as a Back Bencher, to find ...
Charlie Elphicke | 524 c803-4 (Link to this contribution) Beautifully put, as ever, by the hon. Lady, who describes the problem exactly. The Danes' mandate be...
Robert Buckland | 524 c804 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a powerful case in relation to Finland. Does he not agree that the system in Sw...
Charlie Elphicke | 524 c803 (Link to this contribution) That is exactly the argument that I seek to put. There is massive distrust of the European Union in ...
Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 524 c803 (Link to this contribution) The difference is that although Finland mandates, the mandate can still be negotiated with its Parli...
Charlie Elphicke | 524 c802-3 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Lady, and I am humbled by her kind words and great generosity. An important issue o...
Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 524 c803 (Link to this contribution) May I encourage the hon. Gentleman to go on about Finland, because it has this much more right than ...
Charlie Elphicke | 524 c802 (Link to this contribution) I completely agree, and I was about to turn to that argument. The new clause is important in prompt...
Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 524 c802 (Link to this contribution) I fear the hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. The Austro-Hungarian empire would have called the pro...
Charlie Elphicke | 524 c800-1 (Link to this contribution) They could all have been achieved by nation states. Obviously we welcome the ability to do some thin...
Martin Horwood | 524 c800 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman says that he attaches no obvious value to the European Union. Does he exclude fro...
Stephen Phillips | 524 c801-2 (Link to this contribution) Actually, my hon. Friend is a gamekeeper turned poacher. He is making a compelling argument about no...
Michael Connarty | 524 c798-9 (Link to this contribution) I hope not to delay the House for too long. I am actually a signatory to this new clause, but I hope...
Robert Buckland | 524 c799 (Link to this contribution) I am attracted by the hon. Gentleman's argument about the need for a change in the way this House de...
Michael Connarty | 524 c799-800 (Link to this contribution) I not only accept it; I fully endorse and applaud it. There is a work programme that comes forward f...
Charlie Elphicke | 524 c800 (Link to this contribution) It is a privilege to follow the extraordinarily interesting and thoughtful speech of the hon. Member...
Richard Shepherd | 524 c798 (Link to this contribution) As I understand it, the European Union purports to be a country now. That change of title happened f...
William Cash | 524 c798 (Link to this contribution) The very amendment paper that my hon. Friend is holding in his hand demonstrates the amendments that...
Richard Shepherd | 524 c798 (Link to this contribution) That is the argument, and I am glad that it was so briskly conveyed. On that note, I urge the House ...
Wayne David | 524 c797 (Link to this contribution) I hear what the hon. Gentleman is saying, and I have some sympathy with the point that he is making,...
Richard Shepherd | 524 c797 (Link to this contribution) I believe so, because there is a matter of the most profound trust involved. When Ministers speak at...
James Clappison | 524 c797 (Link to this contribution) Would it not be very strange indeed if Ministers were to try to keep secret the amendments that they...
Richard Shepherd | 524 c797 (Link to this contribution) I do not accept the argument, because there are very few international agreements that apply in a di...
Richard Shepherd | 524 c796 (Link to this contribution) This is the record on Europe that most of us will recall; it is not the fantasy of some, who see Eur...
Richard Shepherd | 524 c796-7 (Link to this contribution) Indeed, and I took an intervention from the right hon. Gentleman, if he remembers. However, I have l...
Angus Robertson | 524 c797 (Link to this contribution) We are quite rightly focusing this debate on the workings of the European Union, but some right hon....
Richard Shepherd | 524 c796 (Link to this contribution) No, I will not give way. The right hon. Gentleman spent nearly 30 minutes repeating the—
Speaker | 524 c829-31 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following:
Chris Heaton-Harris | 524 c829 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 524 c828 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my right hon. Friend, not only for giving way but for taking the new clause so seri...
David Lidington | 524 c827-8 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for acknowledging the importance of clause 18. We had a full day's d...
William Cash | 524 c825-6 (Link to this contribution) I should like to endorse the general thrust of the new clause tabled by my hon. Friend the Member fo...
David Lidington | 524 c826-7 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend the Member for North East Somerset (Jacob Rees-Mogg),who I know takes a stron...
Michael Connarty | 524 c825 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend's point is correct, but that is not what we are talking about. He describes a situati...
Michael Connarty | 524 c823-4 (Link to this contribution) First, may I compliment the hon. Member for North East Somerset (Jacob Rees-Mogg) on the eloquence b...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 524 c824 (Link to this contribution) The evidence that we received focused on the ““notwithstanding”” approach—that is, that one could no...
Michael Connarty | 524 c824-5 (Link to this contribution) Just to remind everyone who reads these tomes, the 1972 Act embodied a decision by this Parliament t...
Austin Mitchell | 524 c825 (Link to this contribution) I am trying to follow the argument, but, being a European argument, it is very difficult to follow. ...
Charlie Elphicke | 524 c822-3 (Link to this contribution) I do not decry the role of the House of Lords, the excellence of their lordships, the work that they...
William Cash | 524 c823 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend turn his mind to this radical thought? If the House of Lords were to become an e...
Charlie Elphicke | 524 c823 (Link to this contribution) I take the view that this will be an important Act. It will introduce a referendum lock to ensure th...
Brian Binley | 524 c823 (Link to this contribution) I have no wish to ask you a question.
Speaker | 524 c823 (Link to this contribution) Order. Can we conduct the debate through the Chair, please?
Charlie Elphicke | 524 c822 (Link to this contribution) In one moment. I do not think that it is an excuse to say that because the House of Lords is partly...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 524 c821-2 (Link to this contribution) I so wish that the hon. Gentleman, who is a most distinguished Eurosceptic, were right, but unfortun...
Charlie Elphicke | 524 c822 (Link to this contribution) It is not only an incredible privilege and honour to listen to the superb eloquence of my hon. Frien...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 524 c822 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for giving way, but I just wonder whether he thinks the House of Lords has do...
Charlie Elphicke | 524 c820 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend not agree that his argument would have more force and credibility if the sunligh...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 524 c821 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has half got what I have been saying and has half misconstrued it. I do not think...
Austin Mitchell | 524 c821 (Link to this contribution) I am always impressed by the hon. Gentleman's displays of legal knowledge, but surely his whole poin...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 524 c820 (Link to this contribution) If my hon. Friend were to reread the Parliament Act 1911, he would see that it was introduced as an ...
Michael Connarty | 524 c821 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman, whose speeches I always read, if not always hear. He is very er...
Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 524 c784-5 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is fundamentally misunderstanding the nature of the negotiations. One thing that ...
Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 524 c783 (Link to this contribution) Yes and no. I would caution against using the Danish principle, because it mandates Ministers bindin...
Charlie Elphicke | 524 c783 (Link to this contribution) I understand that the hon. Lady is suggesting not necessarily publishing everything for everyone on ...
Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 524 c783 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. I negotiated the opt-out for the junior doctors workin...
Neil Carmichael | 524 c784 (Link to this contribution) Because it is important to bear in mind the next negotiation and not think only about the one we hav...
Neil Carmichael | 524 c784 (Link to this contribution) Excellent, a beautiful place. The hon. Lady might well think that the transparency of the Commission...
John Redwood | 524 c782-3 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady is absolutely right. I can remember visiting EU Councils as a Minister and discovering...
James Clappison | 524 c782 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend, because he has done the House a service. It was entirely due to him...
Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 524 c782 (Link to this contribution) By way of explanation, Mr Speaker, I think I have fallen victim to my usual habit of reading newspap...
Martin Horwood | 524 c781 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely—and a referendum on it. The hon. Gentleman is speaking as if the new clause related to t...
James Clappison | 524 c780 (Link to this contribution) I give way to the Liberal Democrat Member who, of course, supported the Lisbon treaty on many occasi...
James Clappison | 524 c781 (Link to this contribution) No, because the British Government are representing the British people and the British people should...
Martin Horwood | 524 c781 (Link to this contribution) I will correct the hon. Gentleman, as he is wrong. I voted for both an in/out referendum and a refer...
James Clappison | 524 c781 (Link to this contribution) I will give way again to the hon. Gentleman, who has a very honourable record of supporting further ...
William Cash | 524 c781-2 (Link to this contribution) Even as we speak, a gigantic deal is being done in Europe. It is called the ““competitiveness packag...
James Clappison | 524 c781 (Link to this contribution) I stand corrected. I do not know whether the hon. Gentleman's colleagues voted both for and against ...
Michael Connarty | 524 c787 (Link to this contribution) May I suggest a much simpler piece of logic to explain why the new clause would probably not be help...
Neil Carmichael | 524 c787 (Link to this contribution) I will, but it is the last intervention I will take.
Neil Carmichael | 524 c787 (Link to this contribution) Many apologies, Mr Speaker—it is a long time since I have had quite so many interventions. The key t...
Speaker | 524 c787 (Link to this contribution) Order. I am always delighted to be told that I have made a good point when I have done so, and even ...
Neil Carmichael | 524 c787 (Link to this contribution) You make a very good point. I am sure that the Minister, if he is involved in that negotiation, has ...
Neil Carmichael | 524 c786 (Link to this contribution) No, I do not. The real way of holding Ministers to account is to examine the quality of the decision...
Stephen Phillips | 524 c786 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for giving way; he has done so with charm and good grace and been ve...
Neil Carmichael | 524 c786 (Link to this contribution) The role of Ministers in interpreting each other's decisions and talking to the press later is diffe...
Peter Bone | 524 c785 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is being exceptionally generous in giving way. The idea of keeping those decisions se...
Neil Carmichael | 524 c785 (Link to this contribution) I certainly think it is important for people to know how decisions are made, but it is equally impor...
Chris Heaton-Harris | 524 c786 (Link to this contribution) I understand where my hon. Friend is coming from, and equally, I understand the new clause. The real...
Neil Carmichael | 524 c785 (Link to this contribution) Certainly not. The Prime Minister is right to seek transparency wherever it is appropriate and possi...
Brian Binley | 524 c785 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful. I thought you would, which I why I started to stand, and I—
Neil Carmichael | 524 c785 (Link to this contribution) Yes, incidentally, I will give way.
Speaker | 524 c785 (Link to this contribution) Order. I have not given way at all. I just want to help the hon. Gentleman to get it right, and I am...
Brian Binley | 524 c785 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend give way? Does he—
Neil Carmichael | 524 c785 (Link to this contribution) I would prefer to take the line that it is much more important to consider the outcome. Certainly, t...
John Redwood | 524 c780 (Link to this contribution) The new clause is excellent. I like the idea that Ministers would have to report that they tried to ...
William Cash | 524 c780 (Link to this contribution) Is my hon. Friend also conscious of the fact that the Conservative party was, for the first time sin...
James Clappison | 524 c780 (Link to this contribution) Yes—and not only that, because my hon. Friend is being characteristically modest, as some of the war...
Speaker | 524 c779 (Link to this contribution) I had intended to call the hon. Member for Birmingham, Edgbaston (Ms Stuart) to move the new clause,...
James Clappison | 524 c779-80 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time. As another Member who willingly put his name t...
William Cash | 524 c796 (Link to this contribution) The very paper that led to the urgent question that divulged what was going on with European economi...
Richard Shepherd | 524 c796 (Link to this contribution) I have just heard another inaccuracy from the right hon. Gentleman, just as previously he was correc...
Denis MacShane | 524 c794-5 (Link to this contribution) I was tempted to do so, but I shall resist. My frustration, after 17 years in the House, is that we...
Laura Sandys | 524 c794 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is perhaps taking the analogy a bit too far.
Denis MacShane | 524 c794 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady makes a fair point. Aneurin Bevan famously said apropos of unilateral nuclear disarmam...
Laura Sandys | 524 c794 (Link to this contribution) To take up the point made by my hon. Friend the Member for Dover (Charlie Elphicke), I am a great ad...
Denis MacShane | 524 c796 (Link to this contribution) The working time decision was taken in 1994. I experienced two constituency cases involving horrible...
Richard Shepherd | 524 c796 (Link to this contribution) I am reluctant to, but as the travails of the right hon. Gentleman are so explicit, I will.
Denis MacShane | 524 c796 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Richard Shepherd | 524 c795 (Link to this contribution) The Bill is titled the ““European Union Bill””, and is a legislative measure by this Parliament in r...
Chris Heaton-Harris | 524 c788 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Denis MacShane | 524 c788 (Link to this contribution) Can I make just a wee bit of progress? [Interruption.] Well, I will give way to one of my favourite ...
Chris Heaton-Harris | 524 c788 (Link to this contribution) I am not sure whether I should take that as a compliment. Has the right hon. Gentleman had a chance ...
Denis MacShane | 524 c788-9 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the hon. Gentleman, because he brings to the House considerable knowledge of h...
Peter Bone | 524 c789 (Link to this contribution) Did the hon. Gentleman do the honourable thing and resign?
Denis MacShane | 524 c789 (Link to this contribution) No, I did not resign, simply because I work in a team. When the hon. Gentleman graces the Front Benc...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 524 c789 (Link to this contribution) The process in Europe is legislative. When this House legislates, the debates are published, regardl...
Denis MacShane | 524 c790 (Link to this contribution) We can enter into a political science or constitutional debate on the nature of decision making in t...
Wayne David | 524 c790 (Link to this contribution) Will my right hon. Friend give way?
Denis MacShane | 524 c790 (Link to this contribution) Of course I give way to my hon. Friend on the Front Bench.
Neil Carmichael | 524 c787 (Link to this contribution) Right. [Laughter.] That is longer than Stroud. That is an important point to end on, because I do n...
Denis MacShane | 524 c788 (Link to this contribution) I follow very much in the footsteps of the hon. Member for Stroud (Neil Carmichael) by highlighting ...
Neil Carmichael | 524 c787 (Link to this contribution) That is a really good point to end on. The hon. Member for—
Peter Bone | 524 c788 (Link to this contribution) The Backbench Business Committee received a powerful bid today for a debate about the European Union...
Denis MacShane | 524 c788 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful that the poor fish thrown into the sea will now have their flippers flipped in the Hou...
Peter Bone | 524 c788 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Denis MacShane | 524 c788 (Link to this contribution) I am such a fan of the hon. Gentleman's work on human trafficking that I feel I must give way, but I...
John Redwood | 524 c788 (Link to this contribution) Has the right hon. Gentleman noticed that we are debating Europe all day today, and that we have had...
Denis MacShane | 524 c788 (Link to this contribution) Yes, and I well remember the right hon. Gentleman in the even longer debates—going through the night...
Denis MacShane | 524 c792 (Link to this contribution) Good, we have now established that once and for all.
Denis MacShane | 524 c793 (Link to this contribution) Yes, ““relevant”” is a difficult adjective to define. There is an even more difficult adjective in t...
Charlie Elphicke | 524 c793 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Michael Connarty | 524 c792 (Link to this contribution) I think that what I said was that the more paperwork that is provided, the less it is read. Informat...
Denis MacShane | 524 c792 (Link to this contribution) I am very happy to have that minor revision to the Connarty law—the more paper people are given on t...
Charlie Elphicke | 524 c793 (Link to this contribution) I thank the right hon. Gentleman, who has been extraordinarily generous in taking interventions. I ...
Denis MacShane | 524 c793 (Link to this contribution) The Danish Parliament is very different. The last time there was a majority Government in Denmark wa...
Denis MacShane | 524 c791 (Link to this contribution) If I may, I will continue, because I am sure that the hon. Gentleman will have a good chance to spea...
William Cash | 524 c790 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman, in some dispute with my hon. Friend the Member for North East Somerset (Ja...
Denis MacShane | 524 c790-1 (Link to this contribution) Yes. In my constituency, which is a very strong manufacturing one, the acts of the World Trade Organ...
Wayne David | 524 c790 (Link to this contribution) It is worthy of note that when the European Parliament is engaged in the process of co-decision, it ...
Denis MacShane | 524 c790 (Link to this contribution) There is a curious alliance between two distinguished former Members of the European Parliament—my h...
William Cash | 524 c791-2 (Link to this contribution) On a point of information, I just wanted to put it to the right hon. Gentleman that the European con...
Denis MacShane | 524 c792 (Link to this contribution) We will see what happens on Friday. I am concerned, as all hon. Members ought to be, that because we...
Denis MacShane | 524 c791 (Link to this contribution) It is a mixture of both. First, one listens to the positions of all 27 member states, then one says ...
David Lidington | 524 c840-4 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has the right intentions, but the new clause would not achieve quite the purpose ...
Kelvin Hopkins | 524 c840 (Link to this contribution) I followed the case made by the hon. Member for Daventry (Chris Heaton-Harris) fairly carefully, and...
David Lidington | 524 c844-5 (Link to this contribution) We debated that issue at some length in Committee. My position and that of the Government remain tha...
Chris Heaton-Harris | 524 c845 (Link to this contribution) I beg to ask leave to withdraw the motion. Clause, by leave, withdrawn. Proceedings interrupted (P...
David Lidington | 524 c844 (Link to this contribution) If my hon. Friend will forgive me, I want to reply to my hon. Friend the Member for Daventry. Anoth...
William Cash | 524 c844 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister attempt, even in the last 30 seconds, to say whether he accepts the principle that...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 524 c845-7 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time. I begin by thanking the many hon. Members ...
William Cash | 524 c845 (Link to this contribution) I will not move the amendment, but I do not agree with what the Minister has just said. The Deputy ...
Speaker | 524 c845 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Member for Stone (Mr Cash) wish to move his amendment formally?
Chris Heaton-Harris | 524 c835 (Link to this contribution) Well, they do have a say through the Government they elect, and the Government do negotiate these th...
Michael Connarty | 524 c835-6 (Link to this contribution) I want to speak briefly in support of new clauses 3, 4 and 5. They get to the meat of the discussion...
William Cash | 524 c836-7 (Link to this contribution) I wish to speak about my amendment 1, because it is important not only in principle, but in practice...
Louise Mensch | 524 c837 (Link to this contribution) I admit that, for the first time, I find myself mystified by my hon. Friend's arguments. Surely, the...
William Cash | 524 c838 (Link to this contribution) The answer is that the hon. Lady completely misunderstands the nature of the European Union. That is...
Lord Dodds of Duncairn | 524 c838-9 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is putting the searchlight on a very important and difficult issue. It is vital t...
Ian Swales | 524 c839 (Link to this contribution) I give due credence to the hon. Gentleman for all his knowledge on the issue, but can he think of an...
David Lidington | 524 c840 (Link to this contribution) We are confronted with a cornucopia of amendments and new clauses covering a number of important but...
William Cash | 524 c839-40 (Link to this contribution) That is a very interesting question. Conversely, there have been three referendums—one in Denmark, o...
William Cash | 524 c856-8 (Link to this contribution) I am fascinated by the line that the Opposition are taking. I am not impressed, if I may say so, by ...
John Redwood | 524 c858 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend, who as always is doing a great job on this issue. Will he agree tha...
Douglas Alexander | 524 c855-6 (Link to this contribution) I do not wish to intrude on private grief, but I sense that that question would be better directed t...
Douglas Alexander | 524 c854-5 (Link to this contribution) I find myself in sympathy with the Conservative position at the times of those treaties. The Conserv...
Charlie Elphicke | 524 c855 (Link to this contribution) I hate to intrude on the right hon. Gentleman's reworking of history, but to describe the Lisbon tre...
Douglas Alexander | 524 c853-4 (Link to this contribution) As is customary, I join the Foreign Secretary in paying generous tribute to previous speakers in tod...
John Redwood | 524 c854 (Link to this contribution) On reflection, does the right hon. Gentleman think that it would have been better if the British pub...
William Cash | 524 c858-60 (Link to this contribution) Indeed, it would. For example, the fact that the City of London and its jurisdiction has legally bee...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 524 c848 (Link to this contribution) The Bill does make a material difference. It does not address the whole question my hon. Friend rais...
John Redwood | 524 c848 (Link to this contribution) I am all in favour of that democratic consent, but there is about to be a very substantial strengthe...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 524 c848-9 (Link to this contribution) It is already very clear, from our discussions on that treaty, that it will not have the effect on t...
Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 524 c849 (Link to this contribution) I want to take the Foreign Secretary back to when he said that he wished to share power. Does he als...
William Cash | 524 c847 (Link to this contribution) Will my right hon. Friend be kind enough to give way?
Lord Hague of Richmond | 524 c849-52 (Link to this contribution) Yes, very much indeed. In fact, there was quite a lot of criticism of the External Action Service fr...
David Lidington | 524 c874-6 (Link to this contribution) I thank all Members who have taken part not merely in today's debate, but during the seven days of d...
Wayne David | 524 c872-4 (Link to this contribution) As we come to the end of this Third Reading debate, it is worth reflecting on the impact that the Bi...
John Redwood | 524 c872 (Link to this contribution) That's great; I am very glad that I have the support, from a sedentary position, of Labour's Back Be...
Ian Davidson | 524 c871 (Link to this contribution) You have the support of Labour's Back Benchers!
John Redwood | 524 c871 (Link to this contribution) I do not have time, otherwise I would be very happy to.
Ian Davidson | 524 c871 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Priti Patel | 524 c866 (Link to this contribution) I wish to raise just a few points, but I first wish to welcome the Bill and the introduction of the ...
Speaker | 524 c870 (Link to this contribution) Order. The winding-up speeches will begin at 9.45 pm. I am keen to accommodate two further speeches ...
Robert Buckland | 524 c867-9 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that my hon. Friend the Member for Wellingborough (Mr Bone) meant that he was on all-party...
John Redwood | 524 c871 (Link to this contribution) I, like my right hon. and hon. Friends, welcome the two aims of this legislation. The first, to hold...
Richard Drax | 524 c870-1 (Link to this contribution) It is a privilege to follow my hon. Friend the Member for South Swindon (Mr Buckland). I, too, pay t...
Kelvin Hopkins | 524 c863-4 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Member for Hertsmere (Mr Clappison) made a fine speech, and I agreed with every word of it....
James Clappison | 524 c860-3 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate my right hon. Friend the Foreign Secretary on his speech this evening, and on his rob...
David Lidington | 524 c813 (Link to this contribution) I will try to bring this part of my speech to a conclusion, Mr Deputy Speaker, by saying that this h...
Robert Buckland | 524 c808 (Link to this contribution) I want to make a few brief remarks about what is, on the face of it, a very laudable new clause. It ...
Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 524 c812 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister say how he thinks the House can overcome the problem of collective memory? In Whit...
Greg Knight | 524 c807 (Link to this contribution) I think my hon. Friend is making a strong case for a full and wide review of the royal prerogative. ...
Martin Horwood | 524 c804-5 (Link to this contribution) I originally intended to speak in support of the comments made earlier in the debate by my Glouceste...
Jacob Rees-Mogg | 524 c829 (Link to this contribution) I beg to ask leave to withdraw the motion. Motion and clause, by leave, withdrawn.
David Lidington | 524 c828-9 (Link to this contribution) I hear my hon. Friend's argument, but I could quite easily construct another argument. We have enact...
William Cash | 524 c827 (Link to this contribution) Even if my right hon. Friend were right in his general assertions about elements of the Bill, the im...
Charlie Elphicke | 524 c823 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. I conclude my remarks.
James Clappison | 524 c780 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend makes an excellent point. Too often decisions are made behind closed doors, cer...
Stephen Phillips | 524 c792 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman's argument seems to illustrate what is wrong with the new clause, which is ...
Denis MacShane | 524 c793 (Link to this contribution) Of course, but this is the last intervention that I will take.
Charlie Elphicke | 524 c791 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman is giving an interesting depiction of matters in the Council of Ministers. ...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 524 c847 (Link to this contribution) I was hoping that my kind reference to my hon. Friend would give him such a glow of contentment that...
William Cash | 524 c848 (Link to this contribution) It will not be the first time that my right hon. Friend has found I am not taken in by flattery. The...
Mark Reckless | 524 c852 (Link to this contribution) Will the Foreign Secretary use the opportunity of the eurozone's needing our agreement to its perman...
Neil Carmichael | 524 c784 (Link to this contribution) We are having an important debate, and the first thing to do is find our national interest in the co...
John Redwood | 524 c784 (Link to this contribution) I think my hon. Friend is misreading the new clause. It would mean that, when all the negotiation wa...
Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 524 c786 (Link to this contribution) I have one concrete example for the hon. Gentleman: the way we deal with the art market and the extr...
Brian Binley | 524 c785 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful for your help and advice again, Mr Speaker. The House is also about the people we...
William Cash | 524 c839 (Link to this contribution) Indeed. As my hon. Friend the Member for Daventry (Chris Heaton-Harris) pointed out, the aircraft ca...
Chris Heaton-Harris | 524 c865-6 (Link to this contribution) I, too, thank the Minister for Europe for being so precise in many of his answers to the questions t...
Peter Bone | 524 c866-7 (Link to this contribution) It is a great pleasure to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Witham (Priti Patel), who, as usual, ...

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Disclosure of information
European Union
EU budget
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Referendums
Parliamentary scrutiny
Sovereignty
Treaties
Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union
European Council
Treaty of Lisbon

Legislation

European Union Bill 2010-12

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