Counter-Terrorism Bill. Lords Report stage first day. Amendments debated and withdrawn, one negatived on division (130 votes to 130). Other amendments debated and agreed to. Part 2 of 2 records.
Counter-Terrorism Bill
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705 c158-94Session
2007-08Legislative stage
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Lord Geddes | 705 c182 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, there being an equality of votes, in accordance with Standing Order 57, which provides tha...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 705 c189-90 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for that response. I still have some concern that a lot of t...
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Baroness Neville-Jones | 705 c186 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I welcome what the Minister has just said. Is there a programme to equip the police statio...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 705 c186-8 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 33:
33: Clause 29, page 21, line 24, after ““may”” insert ““, with the written...
Lord West of Spithead | 705 c193 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendments Nos. 37 to 45:
37: Clause 45, page 32, line 37, after ““imprisonment”” insert ““o...
Lord West of Spithead | 705 c193-4 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 46:
46: Clause 53, page 38, line 38, leave out subsections (1) to (3) and inse...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 705 c175-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as the noble and learned Lord, Lord Lloyd of Berwick, said, there was a lot of dissatisfac...
Lord Elystan-Morgan | 705 c177-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I respectfully suggest that there is not a world of difference between the amendment propo...
Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 705 c178 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the particular paragraph (b) in the Government’s amendment that is the subject of the amen...
Lord West of Spithead | 705 c184 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as the noble Lord, Lord Wallace, has said, and as I made clear in Committee, the Lord Advo...
Lord West of Spithead | 705 c185-6 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 27:
27: Clause 26, page 19, leave out line 30
The noble Lord said: My Lords, ...
Lord West of Spithead | 705 c185 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 24:
24: Clause 25, page 18, line 29, leave out subsections (2) to (4) and inse...
Lord Dear | 705 c164 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I should point out to noble Lords who are not familiar with Latin or Norman French that th...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 705 c163-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is a privilege to follow two noble Lords with such experience in this area. I am taken ...
Baroness Manningham-Buller | 705 c164 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the amendment but I wish to make a couple of comments—one in defence of the poli...
Earl of Onslow | 705 c164 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am very pleased that the noble Lord, Lord Thomas, reminded the House that no judge has r...
Baroness Neville-Jones | 705 c161-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we support this important amendment. The noble and learned Lord said that the gap may be s...
Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 705 c172-4 (Link to this contribution)
moved, as an amendment to Amendment No. 6, Amendment No. 7:
7: Clause 23, line 13, after ““to”” in...
Lord Geddes | 705 c169 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, before calling Amendment No. 6, I must advise your Lordships that if it is agreed to, I sh...
Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 705 c169 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord and beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
Amendment, by le...
Lord West of Spithead | 705 c166-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I do not have those statistics with me but shall certainly inform the noble Baroness of th...
Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 705 c166 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the noble Lord for giving way. Could he share with us the statistics on the number...
Lord West of Spithead | 705 c190-1 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 36:
36: Before Clause 45, insert the following new Clause—
““Persons to whom t...
Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 705 c191-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I wholeheartedly thank the Minister for taking the time to meet us à propos the amendments...
Lord West of Spithead | 705 c186 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I do not know the exact answer. Perhaps I may get back to the noble Baroness in writing on...
Lord West of Spithead | 705 c186 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendments Nos. 30 and 31:
30: Clause 26, page 19, line 37, leave out ““An order or”” and in...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 705 c192-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I owe the Minister an apology for the use of a shorthand expression, when passing the nobl...
Lord West of Spithead | 705 c194 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 47:
47: Clause 61, page 45, line 18, at end insert—
““( ) section (Persons sub...
Lord Brett | 705 c194 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that further consideration on Report be now adjourned.
Moved accordingly, a...
Lord Howarth of Newport | 705 c175 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am glad that my noble friend tabled Amendment No. 6. It seems to me a worthwhile respons...
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 705 c175 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this worries me. Let us take the scenario where the police wish to continue to question af...
Lord Goldsmith | 705 c176-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is a bit of an evening for admissions of parentage. In government, I think that I was t...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 705 c178-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, if the Crown prosecutor—I accept the noble Lord’s earlier rebuke—makes an application to t...
Lord West of Spithead | 705 c179-80 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, that was quite an interesting dialogue. The noble and learned Lord, Lord Lloyd, had a good...
Lord West of Spithead | 705 c183 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendments Nos. 21 and 22:
21: Clause 24, page 18, line 24, leave out ““subsection (2) or (3...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 705 c183-4 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 23:
23: Clause 24, page 18, line 25, at end insert—
““( ) The Lord Advocate sh...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 705 c184-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is always worthwhile to challenge and test these matters. When legislation is making pr...
Lord Goldsmith | 705 c165 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I want to raise one issue. The noble and learned Lord, Lord Mayhew of Twysden, made some v...
Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 705 c164-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the point made by the noble and learned Lord, Lord Lloyd, about restoring—or perhaps ““bui...
Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 705 c160-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, that is a very sound question. I am proposing the amendment in relation to a single commis...
Viscount Colville of Culross | 705 c163 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I take this opportunity to recollect an unannounced visit that I made to Castlereagh with ...
Lord Mayhew of Twysden | 705 c162-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, anyone who heard the noble and learned Lord, Lord Lloyd, would not be surprised that I str...
Baroness Neville-Jones | 705 c174 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we welcome the Government’s acceptance that post-charge questioning should be authorised b...
Lord West of Spithead | 705 c169-72 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 6:
6: Clause 23, page 16, line 33, leave out subsections (2) to (5) and insert...
Lord West of Spithead | 705 c169 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I would like to accept the substance of the amendment, but I want to look at exactly how w...
Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 705 c169 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken and who have made many new points. I am p...
Lord West of Spithead | 705 c165-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as I understand it, the purpose of the amendment is to introduce an independent commission...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 705 c160 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am very grateful to the noble and learned Lord for giving way. What is the intended terr...
Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 705 c158-60 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 5:
5: After Clause 22, insert the following new Clause—
““Independent Commissi...
Lord Geddes | 705 c182 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I should remind the House that if Amendment No. 15 is agreed to, I will not be able to cal...
Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 705 c180 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am not suggesting—I am sure that no one really imagines that I am—that the judge in thes...
Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 705 c184 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I hear the argument that Scotland is different, and it can be a compelling argument. Will ...
Lord West of Spithead | 705 c184 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I would be happy to do that. I shall have to check with the Lord Advocate, but I cannot se...
Lord West of Spithead | 705 c188-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Wallace, for his amendment because it is important that we gi...
Earl of Onslow | 705 c174-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am reminded of the biblical quotation, ““What the Lord giveth, he taketh away””. I fear ...
Lord West of Spithead | 705 c182-3 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 15:
15: Clause 24, page 17, line 45, leave out subsections (2) to (6) and inse...
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