Pensions Bill. Lords Report stage first day. Part 2 of 2 records.
Pensions Bill
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Lord McKenzie of Luton | 704 c206-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Oakeshott, makes my task a little easier. I am grateful for that. I a...
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 704 c206 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am not open to being convinced by the Minister that the amendment is reasonable, and I h...
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Baroness Noakes | 704 c205-6 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 52:
52: Clause 69, page 37, line 42, leave out subsection (5)
The noble Baron...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 704 c225 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, is the noble Baroness saying that that judgment arises from her belief that there is not a...
Baroness Noakes | 704 c225-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I think the record will show that I said I did not accept that there was a public service ...
Lord Tunnicliffe | 704 c226 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I beg to move that consideration on Report be now adjourned.
Moved accordingly, and, on Q...
Baroness Noakes | 704 c222 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I always take the noble Lord, Lord Oakeshott, very seriously.
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 704 c222 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am flattered that the noble Baroness has taken the little joke about loans on commercial...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 704 c223-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, with these amendments we turn to funding, an issue that was debated at length in Committee...
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 704 c222 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, more than I do myself, but I thank the noble Baroness. However, although I am flattered th...
Baroness Noakes | 704 c207 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the Minister for that response. I should have given him notice that I intended to ...
Lord Skelmersdale | 704 c207-8 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 53:
53: After Clause 72, insert the following new Clause—
““Review of the pens...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 704 c210-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as noble Lords will be aware, we have committed to having a review in 2017 of two of the m...
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 704 c210 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I congratulate the noble Baroness on her ingenuity. No one is better than her at spotting ...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 704 c211 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I understand that and am grateful for my noble friend’s input. I cannot give a commitment ...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 704 c211 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, for the avoidance of doubt, I want to make it clear, because I would not wish to embarrass...
Baroness Noakes | 704 c212-3 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 54:
54: Schedule 1, page 75, line 11, at end insert—
““( ) The Secretary of St...
Lord Skelmersdale | 704 c211-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, in a previous existence, a noble friend of mine used the expression ““gobsmacked””. That p...
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 704 c213 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the amendment. I am grateful to the noble Baroness for reminding us of the nonse...
Baroness Noakes | 704 c216-8 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 58:
58: Schedule 1, page 80, line 42, leave out ““and”” and insert—
““( ) any ...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 704 c218 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful for the amendment, because it gives us the chance to try to produce some cla...
Baroness Noakes | 704 c218 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I understood that it was work in progress but that the general drift was that there would ...
Baroness Noakes | 704 c220 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, that is not entirely the satisfactory conclusion that I had hoped I would get to these ame...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 704 c219 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the power would and should be used. I qualify that by saying only that the whole design of...
Baroness Noakes | 704 c220-2 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 59:
59: Schedule 1, page 81, line 10, leave out sub-paragraph (2) and insert—
...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 704 c218-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I certainly agree with the second point. As an NDPB, the trustee corporation will be requi...
Baroness Noakes | 704 c219 (Link to this contribution)
Again, my Lords, I am talking not about the accounts but about the annual report. The Minister said ...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 704 c219 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I hope that I have given as clear an assurance as I can that both sets of accounts, whethe...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 704 c213-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, don’t rub it in! I guess my response can be summed up as, ““It’s a fair cop””. I stand chi...
Baroness Noakes | 704 c214 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I repeat what my noble friend Lord Skelmersdale said in relation to the previous amendment...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 704 c216 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 57:
57: Schedule 1, page 80, line 19, after ““employee”” insert ““or other mem...
Baroness Noakes | 704 c216 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Oakeshott, for his support on this and on other recent amendm...
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 704 c216 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, this seems a pretty basic requirement for good corporate governance in an organisation suc...
Baroness Noakes | 704 c215-6 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 56:
56: Schedule 1, page 78, line 8, at end insert—
““( ) The trustee corporat...
Lord Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay | 704 c215 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, hallelujah!
On Question, amendment agreed to.
Baroness Noakes | 704 c215 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, more delight is recorded from these Benches.
Lord Tunnicliffe | 704 c214-5 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 55:
55: Schedule 1, page 77, line 8, leave out ““four”” and insert ““five””
T...
Baroness Noakes | 704 c224-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, it is a pity that we will end our deliberations today on a less happy note than we have ac...
Lord McKenzie of Luton | 704 c216 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, noble Lords may recall that in Committee we discussed the arrangements for the trustee cor...
Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 704 c208-10 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am very grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Skelmersdale, because he has given me an opport...
Baroness Noakes | 704 c219 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the Minister said that, when considering the information that would be included in the ann...
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Includes debate on the proposed Trustee Corporation (clause 57 and schedule 1) whose name is to be determined at a later date.
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