Draft Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005 (Continuance in force of sections 1 to 9) Order 2008. Motion to approve. Agreed to on division (267 votes to 60).
Prevention and Suppression of Terrorism
Legislative debate on Thursday, 21 February 2008,
in the House of Commons,
led by Tony McNulty.
The answering
member was Dominic Grieve.
About these Parliamentary proceedings
Reference
472 c561-87 Session
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Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005 (Continuance in force of sections 1 to 9) Order 2008
Wednesday, 30 January 2008
Statutory instruments
House of Lords
House of Commons
Wednesday, 30 January 2008
Statutory instruments
House of Lords
House of Commons
Counter-Terrorism policy and human rights (ninth report): annual renewal of control orders legislation 2008. Government response to the Human Rights Joint Select Committee tenth report of session 2007-08 (HC 356, HL 57).
Monday, 21 April 2008
Command papers
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House of Commons
Monday, 21 April 2008
Command papers
House of Lords
House of Commons
Counter-terrorism policy and human rights (ninth report): annual renewal of control orders legislation 2008. Human Rights Joint Select Committee tenth report of session 2007-08 with proceedings and appendices.
Tuesday, 19 February 2008
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
House of Commons
Tuesday, 19 February 2008
Parliamentary committees
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House of Commons
Proceeding contributions
Speaker | 472 c578 (Link to this contribution)
Thank you, Mr. Corbyn.
Speaker | 472 c578 (Link to this contribution)
It is certainly unusual for hon. Members to come in late, but nothing prevents an hon. Member from m...
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Jeremy Corbyn | 472 c578 (Link to this contribution)
Further to that point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. I apologise to the House for not being here fo...
Jeremy Corbyn | 472 c578 (Link to this contribution)
I thank my hon. Friend for giving way again. On that general point, in its discussions has his Commi...
Tobias Ellwood | 472 c578 (Link to this contribution)
On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. I seek your advice. Is it appropriate for an hon. Member ...
Jeremy Corbyn | 472 c577 (Link to this contribution)
In the Committee's consideration of the matter, did my hon. Friend come across any parallel situatio...
Andrew Dismore | 472 c577-8 (Link to this contribution)
We have not done any detailed comparative work to that effect, so I cannot answer my hon. Friend's q...
Evan Harris | 472 c576 (Link to this contribution)
Given that the deadline for renewal is not until 11 March, and the Government chose to have the deba...
Andrew Dismore | 472 c576-7 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman makes a fair criticism, but the serendipitous effect of having the debate at this...
Andrew Dismore | 472 c575-6 (Link to this contribution)
I should like to discuss the 10th report of the Joint Committee on Human Rights, which I chair. The ...
Tony McNulty | 472 c583 (Link to this contribution)
As I tried to say at the start of my contribution, I broadly agree that we should have the time to d...
Tobias Ellwood | 472 c582 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for your guidance, Madam Deputy Speaker.
I asked the Minister about the guidelines gi...
Evan Harris | 472 c582-3 (Link to this contribution)
I have only a few minutes to set out the reasons why my hon. Friends and I will be voting against th...
Tobias Ellwood | 472 c581 (Link to this contribution)
I apologise to the hon. Member for Islington, North (Jeremy Corbyn). He speaks passionately about th...
Jeremy Corbyn | 472 c581 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the hon. Gentleman for his kind remarks a moment ago. Does he not accept that one of the pro...
Tobias Ellwood | 472 c581-2 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman makes his point. I do not want to take away from the suggestion that a rehabilita...
Speaker | 472 c582 (Link to this contribution)
Order. I remind the hon. Gentleman that we are speaking about the renewal of an order. Perhaps he co...
Andrew Dismore | 472 c578-9 (Link to this contribution)
I think that my hon. Friend raised the issue of the general impact on community relations and co-ope...
Patrick Mercer | 472 c579-80 (Link to this contribution)
It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Hendon (Mr. Dismore), and it is a great pleasure to b...
David Winnick | 472 c580 (Link to this contribution)
We have deliberated on the matter in the Select Committee on Home Affairs. Do I take it from what th...
Patrick Mercer | 472 c581 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman understands it completely rightly. My personal view, as I will iterate, is that 2...
Tom Brake | 472 c584 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?
Tony McNulty | 472 c584 (Link to this contribution)
I will, but only if the hon. Gentleman promises not simply to reiterate last year's speech, which is...
Patrick Mercer | 472 c583 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister iterate his desire for us to have a wider-ranging debate on Government counter-ter...
Tony McNulty | 472 c583-4 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, I will—as I also said earlier. However, that would be a separate debate; the business managers ...
Tom Brake | 472 c584 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for giving way; I shall not be reiterating last year's speech. He says that he ...
Tony McNulty | 472 c584-5 (Link to this contribution)
No, I will not; the hon. Gentleman is being rather silly. He asks me to make up policy on the hoof. ...
Tony McNulty | 472 c563 (Link to this contribution)
I would not be so dismissive of the vaguer question. If there is the prospect of prosecution as part...
Evan Harris | 472 c562-3 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister knows that the terms of reference of control order review groups require them to keep t...
Tony McNulty | 472 c562 (Link to this contribution)
I agree 100 per cent. That has been the Government's position throughout. I am currently carrying ou...
Julian Lewis | 472 c562 (Link to this contribution)
I should like to add my congratulations to the police and the security services on a brilliant opera...
Tony McNulty | 472 c562 (Link to this contribution)
I hope that my hon. Friend is right on the latter point. I wholeheartedly agree with his sentiments....
David Winnick | 472 c562 (Link to this contribution)
On prosecution, does my right hon. Friend agree that there will be much satisfaction that Parviz Kha...
Tony McNulty | 472 c561-2 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move,"That the draft Prevention of Terrorism Act 2005 (Continuance in force of sections 1 t...
Tony McNulty | 472 c563 (Link to this contribution)
I should very much like to go into such detail—most of it positive, rather than negative—but I fear ...
Tobias Ellwood | 472 c563 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister began by saying that there is a threat from about 2,000 individuals. They are clearly l...
Dominic Grieve | 472 c563 (Link to this contribution)
I want to bring the Minister back to the narrower issues of the motion. He mentioned the control ord...
Evan Harris | 472 c565 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?
Tony McNulty | 472 c564-5 (Link to this contribution)
I dispute the hon. Gentleman's tail-end point, but this is most profoundly not the occasion on which...
Tobias Ellwood | 472 c563 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister give way?
Tony McNulty | 472 c563 (Link to this contribution)
It is seven, but I shall develop the point about our response, in respect not just of exit strategie...
Tobias Ellwood | 472 c564 (Link to this contribution)
I should be grateful if the Minister continued to take interventions, which would allow us to tease ...
Tony McNulty | 472 c563-4 (Link to this contribution)
In a moment. I said what I did at the beginning, before delaying and allowing my hon. Friend the Mem...
Tony McNulty | 472 c565 (Link to this contribution)
Probably not, because I am mindful that others want to speak, but if I have time towards the end of ...
David Winnick | 472 c570-1 (Link to this contribution)
I am not normally a great supporter of consensus. I doubt whether many Members would say that I have...
Dominic Grieve | 472 c567-70 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister delivered one of his characteristic speeches. He tends to look at the general rather th...
Tony McNulty | 472 c566-7 (Link to this contribution)
I would hope so. I certainly cannot give that undertaking, other to say that I will try my best. To ...
Evan Harris | 472 c565 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister said that he felt that the Carlile report was useful to aid debate, but does he accept ...
David Winnick | 472 c572 (Link to this contribution)
In my borough, there is no such problem. The Muslim community in the Walsall area has always been mo...
Tobias Ellwood | 472 c572 (Link to this contribution)
Will the hon. Gentleman explain how we can sensitively understand what sometimes happens behind the ...
David Winnick | 472 c571-2 (Link to this contribution)
I entirely agree with the hon. Gentleman.
Another point I want to make arising from the conviction ...
Julian Lewis | 472 c571 (Link to this contribution)
I entirely endorse what the hon. Gentleman has just said. May I impose for a second longer on the Ho...
Dominic Grieve | 472 c572 (Link to this contribution)
As it happens, I visited the Birmingham mosque shortly after those words were uttered by its chairma...
Tom Brake | 472 c572-3 (Link to this contribution)
In preparation for the debate, I studied last year's debate carefully and noted the points raised by...
David Winnick | 472 c572 (Link to this contribution)
What happened in Forest Gate is another example. I hope that the authorities—the police, the Home Of...
Tom Brake | 472 c573 (Link to this contribution)
I think we have made some progress. I think it may now be more widely accepted on the Government Ben...
Patrick Mercer | 472 c573 (Link to this contribution)
Do I understand from what the hon. Gentleman is saying that we have the ability to use intercept evi...
Patrick Mercer | 472 c573 (Link to this contribution)
In other words, the hon. Gentleman is saying that we are just talking and creating hot air yet again...
Tom Brake | 472 c574 (Link to this contribution)
I echo the hon. Gentleman's point about expectations of how the Counter-Terrorism Bill might assist ...
Dominic Grieve | 472 c574 (Link to this contribution)
Let me take the hon. Gentleman back to the matters we were discussing a few moments ago, such as the...
Tom Brake | 472 c575 (Link to this contribution)
I can only echo my hon. Friend's concerns.
I was discussing control orders being subject to regular...
Evan Harris | 472 c574-5 (Link to this contribution)
My hon. Friend is right to draw attention to the report of the Joint Committee on Human Rights, whic...
Tom Brake | 472 c573 (Link to this contribution)
Far be it from me to suggest that the Government are creating hot air. We have a statement from the ...
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