Dormant Bank and Building Society Accounts Bill (HL). Lords report stage. Amendment 5 agreed to on division (195 to 141). Amendment 10 agreed to on division (193 to 133). Amendment 12 agreed to on division (168 to 132). Amendment 13 agreed to on division (159 to 125). Bill printed as amended (HL Bill 26).
Dormant Bank and Building Society Accounts Bill [HL]
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698 c555-609 Session
2007-08Legislative stage
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Dormant Bank and Building Society Accounts Bill (HL). As amended in Grand Committee.
Tuesday, 15 January 2008
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Tuesday, 15 January 2008
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House of Lords
Dormant Bank and Building Society Accounts Bill (HL). As amended on Report (HL).
Tuesday, 29 January 2008
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Tuesday, 29 January 2008
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Proceeding contributions
Lord Shutt of Greetland | 698 c605 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have a quick question for Minister. The Heritage Lottery, for example, could decide that...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 698 c605-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to those who have spoken in the debate and particularly the noble Viscount, ...
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Viscount Astor | 698 c603-4 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 16:
16: Clause 15, page 8, line 7, at end insert—
““( ) Subject to subsection ...
Lord Howard of Rising | 698 c604-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the amendment. Some of the other lottery distributors have considerable knowledg...
Lord Shutt of Greetland | 698 c603 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the Minister for his contribution. It may well be that there are other, brighter i...
Lord Bach | 698 c602-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we on this side appreciate and admire the noble Lord’s spirited attempt to ensure that the...
Lord Shutt of Greetland | 698 c601-2 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 15:
15: Clause 15, page 8, line 5, after ““Fund”” insert ““, under the name of...
Baroness Noakes | 698 c599 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the Minister for that reply and the noble Lord, Lord Shutt, for supporting the ame...
Lord Higgins | 698 c598 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I find the Minister’s statement somewhat puzzling. He is saying that the measure will not ...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 698 c598-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I indicated why the amendment is unacceptable to us and the reservations we have about it....
Lord Shutt of Greetland | 698 c597 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, our names are attached to this amendment and I would like to speak to it. I would call thi...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 698 c597-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the Government think that in principle the Opposition have a strong argument. We agree in ...
Lord Norton of Louth | 698 c598 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am sorry to interrupt the noble Lord, particularly on Report, but he referred to a state...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 698 c598 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I understand that point but the noble Lord will recognise that I have crucial reservations...
Lord Bach | 698 c590-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we believe that Amendment No. 12 is unnecessary. It does not alter the position of account...
Lord Monson | 698 c589-90 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as I was not aware that the noble Baroness, Lady Noakes, was not proposing to move Amendme...
Baroness Noakes | 698 c595-7 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 13:
13: After Clause 10, insert the following new Clause—
““Triennial report t...
Baroness Noakes | 698 c592 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I apologise to the noble Lord, Lord Monson. I looked for him to tell him that I did not in...
Lord Howard of Rising | 698 c606-7 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 18:
18: Clause 25, page 13, line 46, at end insert—
““( ) Money defrayed under...
Lord Shutt of Greetland | 698 c606 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 17:
17: Clause 21, page 10, line 30, at end insert—
““( ) Any direction given ...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 698 c608-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Shutt, made a similar speech in Committee, which I greatly applauded....
Lord Shutt of Greetland | 698 c607-8 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am not inclined to support the amendment. I have no idea whether 10 per cent is the righ...
Lord Howard of Rising | 698 c609 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the Minister. It will not surprise him to hear that I do not agree with him. Given...
Viscount Eccles | 698 c584 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, will the Minister read out more of what was said by the Delegated Powers Committee, of whi...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 698 c581-4 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, we had intensive debates on these issues in Committee, as both the noble Lord, Lord Shutt,...
Lord Naseby | 698 c580 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I support the amendment. Can the Minster clarify whether the National Audit Office has the...
Baroness Noakes | 698 c580 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, our names are to the amendments in this group, and we strongly support them. Parliamentary...
Baroness Noakes | 698 c588-9 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 12:
12: Clause 10, page 6, line 40, at end insert—
““( ) Notwithstanding anyth...
Lord Shutt of Greetland | 698 c585 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Noakes, and the noble Lord, Lord Naseby, for their commen...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 698 c584-5 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Viscount is well versed in these issues. I was not going to suggest that there w...
Lord Shutt of Greetland | 698 c578 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendments Nos. 7 and 8:
7: Clause 3, page 3, line 2, leave out ““or building society””
8:...
Lord Shutt of Greetland | 698 c579-80 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 10:
10: After Clause 5, insert the following new Clause—
““Parliamentary accou...
Lord Shutt of Greetland | 698 c578 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 6:
6: Clause 2, page 2, line 30, leave out ““or building society””
On Questio...
Baroness Noakes | 698 c572-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, as I said in Grand Committee, we are sympathetic to the desire of large building societies...
Lord Naseby | 698 c571-2 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I have been involved in the mutual movement for probably the whole of my adult life, so I ...
Lord Naseby | 698 c575 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the Minister seeks clarity. Does he not understand that the Coventry Building Society is i...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 698 c573-5 (Link to this contribution)
Many, of course, my Lords, but indefinable numbers would be involved, given the colossal assets of t...
Lord Shutt of Greetland | 698 c575-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am glad that the Minister accepts where I stand. I would like to thank the noble Lord, L...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 698 c575 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I accept what the noble Lord says—that the Coventry Building Society has a strong local ba...
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 698 c570 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for his detailed reply and to noble Lords for their comments...
Lord Shutt of Greetland | 698 c570-1 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 5:
5: Clause 2, page 2, line 4, leave out ““smaller bank or building society””...
Lord Higgins | 698 c555-7 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 1:
1: Clause 1, page 1, line 9, at end insert—
““(2) In making a transfer the ...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 698 c558-60 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am very grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Shutt, because he has explained exactly the Gov...
Lord Shutt of Greetland | 698 c557 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, if I may interpret what the noble Lord, Lord Higgins, means, I think he wants to know how ...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 698 c560-1 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Lord will appreciate that it will be necessary for the reclaim fund in certain c...
Lord Higgins | 698 c560 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, before the noble Lord sits down, will he deal with Amendment No. 9, which says that the re...
Lord Higgins | 698 c561-2 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 3:
3: Clause 1, page 1, line 15, at end insert—
““(3) A charity in receipt of ...
Lord Higgins | 698 c561 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am anxious not to delay the House further. I will need to consider carefully the points ...
Lord Higgins | 698 c563 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am most grateful to the Minister for that somewhat unexpected answer. This point did not...
Lord Bach | 698 c562-3 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord for explaining his amendment so succinctly. The purpose of...
Baroness Noakes | 698 c565-6 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay, has made a powerful case on behalf of the Unclaimed Asset...
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 698 c563-5 (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 4A:
4A: After Clause 1, insert the following new Clause—
““Reserve power to co...
Lord Bach | 698 c567-9 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I echo what my noble friend Lady Pitkeathley said. All of us who support this Bill owe a g...
Baroness Pitkeathley | 698 c566-7 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the issue to bear in mind here is that of giving a voluntary scheme the chance to work. I ...
Viscount Astor | 698 c606 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, the Minister has given an interesting reply. He has accused me of opening gaps by trying t...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 698 c573 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken in the debate. The noble Lord, Lord Shutt...
Baroness Noakes | 698 c557 (Link to this contribution)
My Lords, I briefly associate myself with comments made by my noble friend about the restrictive nat...
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