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Legal Services Bill [HL]

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Monday, 22 January 2007, in the House of Lords.
Legal Services Bill (HL). Lords Committee stage second day. Clauses 20 to 31 agreed to. Schedules 4 to 6 agreed to. Part 2 of 2 records.

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688 c972-94 

Session

2006-07

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Committee stage

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House of Lords chamber

Proceeding contributions

Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 688 c973-4 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord. With regard to Schedule 4, I know that the Association of Law Costs...
Lord Kingsland | 688 c974 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 44: 44: Clause 28, page 13, line 38, leave out ““prejudiced”” and insert ““imp...

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Lord Hunt of Wirral | 688 c972-3 (Link to this contribution) I have two points on which I seek further advice from the Minister. This schedule sets out the exist...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 688 c975 (Link to this contribution) I support my noble friend. I ask the Minister why the word ““prejudiced”” has been chosen, particula...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 688 c975 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to both noble Lords for raising this issue. As ever, I shall look at the wording to se...
Lord Lyell of Markyate | 688 c981 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that the noble Lord, Lord Whitty, needs to be as anxious as he feels. If something is...
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 688 c981 (Link to this contribution) I also support the amendment. Under Clause 30(2)(a), the words ““one or more”” may make it possible ...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 688 c981 (Link to this contribution) We believe that the threshold for intervention should be raised in the various powers in the Bill. T...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 688 c980-1 (Link to this contribution) I support the amendment and in particular the concept that there must be a balanced approach. To giv...
Lord Kingsland | 688 c979-80 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 47: 47: Clause 30, page 15, line 3, leave out ““one or more of”” The noble Lo...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 688 c983-4 (Link to this contribution) I apologise to my noble friend Lord Brennan for not seeing him seeking to speak; I did not know he w...
Lord Thomas of Gresford | 688 c983 (Link to this contribution) I disagree with the noble Lord, Lord Brennan. It is important to take the balanced approach that has...
Lord Brennan | 688 c983 (Link to this contribution) The first four parts of the Bill deal with two important features relating to the independence of th...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 688 c982-3 (Link to this contribution) I agree with my noble and learned friend Lord Lyell. Until the intervention of the noble Lord, Lord ...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 688 c976 (Link to this contribution) I hope that I can give the noble Lord the assurance he seeks. Clause 29 reflects the recommendations...
Lord Kingsland | 688 c977 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 46: 46: After Clause 29, insert the following new Clause— ““Separation of func...
Lord Kingsland | 688 c977 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the Minister for her entirely satisfactory response. This is one amendment tha...
Lord Kingsland | 688 c975-6 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Baroness for her reply. She will have heard the illustration I used to ad...
Lord Kingsland | 688 c979 (Link to this contribution) The Minister has been most helpful. I emphasise that those who have been talking to me about this do...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 688 c978-9 (Link to this contribution) I am hopeful that I can clarify where we are on this question. I agree completely that proportionali...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 688 c977-8 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my noble friend for moving this amendment. I thank the Minister for paying tribute ...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 688 c979 (Link to this contribution) I am sure we will debate that at great length when we get to Part 5 and the importance and relevance...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 688 c979 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister accept that this has the particular impact of erecting Chinese walls, to which my ...
Lord Kingsland | 688 c987-8 (Link to this contribution) That is something, as I think that I indicated when introducing the amendment, with which we respect...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 688 c987 (Link to this contribution) I was resisting using the words ““most important”” because of the earlier conversation, which was ab...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 688 c987 (Link to this contribution) May I quickly just point to the Explanatory Notes, rather than mislead the Minister? They say: "““Th...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 688 c987 (Link to this contribution) By using the words ““most important”” I am nervous that the noble Lord is trying to lead me down a p...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 688 c990 (Link to this contribution) I say to the noble and learned Baroness that we are always delighted to get suggestions to reflect o...
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 688 c989 (Link to this contribution) I am not entirely sure how appropriate it is to put forward ideas which do not come within the exist...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 688 c988-9 (Link to this contribution) We have in a sense partly had this debate. I apologise that I cut off the noble and learned Baroness...
Lord Kingsland | 688 c988 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 49: 49: Clause 31 , page 15, line 32, leave out ““an”” and insert ““a signific...
Lord Brennan | 688 c990 (Link to this contribution) I will briefly add to what has just been said. The ““adverse impact”” test for trigger for intervent...
Lord Lyell of Markyate | 688 c984-5 (Link to this contribution) Before my noble friend replies, I should like to draw attention to the clause’s heading: ““Performan...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 688 c985-6 (Link to this contribution) I am interested in what the noble Lord is saying. I hope that he accepts the premise that even when ...
Lord Kingsland | 688 c985 (Link to this contribution) I am of course extremely grateful to the noble Baroness for her response, but surprised to hear her ...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 688 c986 (Link to this contribution) That issue is not included in this group of amendments, which is why I am not responding to it.
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 688 c986 (Link to this contribution) I want to pick up on what the noble Lord, Lord Brennan, said because it is not part of the amendment...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 688 c986 (Link to this contribution) We could not agree groupings, so I cannot discuss that now without the noble Lord moving that amendm...
Baroness Butler-Sloss | 688 c986 (Link to this contribution) I just wondered whether it should come into this group.
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 688 c986-7 (Link to this contribution) I have not for one second implied that. I said that we believe that, when looking at what is occurri...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 688 c986 (Link to this contribution) I have a question arising out of what the Minister just said. In looking at the regulatory objective...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 688 c987 (Link to this contribution) So the board could well decide in a particular instance that one objective is the most important.
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 688 c990-1 (Link to this contribution) I can only say to the noble Lord what I have already said. I am not minded to look at adding new wor...
Lord Evans of Temple Guiting | 688 c994 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move that the House do now resume. Moved accordingly, and, on Question, Motion agreed to.
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 688 c992 (Link to this contribution) Let me be clear about the Government’s position. I think that I mentioned the consumer lobby on only...
Lord Kingsland | 688 c992-3 (Link to this contribution) I do not want to be misunderstood. I entirely understand the concerns of the consumer lobby and, rig...
Lord Kingsland | 688 c991-2 (Link to this contribution) I agree with my noble and learned friend that this group and the previous group should be looked at ...
Lord Whitty | 688 c992 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may clarify the position of the consumer lobby in this respect. Yes, I do not trust the ex...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 688 c991 (Link to this contribution) There seems to be different ideas of what constitutes a fair balance. This is not the time of the ev...
Lord Lyell of Markyate | 688 c991 (Link to this contribution) Briefly, the previous group of amendments and this amendment were not taken together for good reason...
Lord Whitty | 688 c981 (Link to this contribution) I was not going to intervene on this amendment but was saving my fire for the next group. I will for...
Lord Kingsland | 688 c976 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 45: 45: Clause 29 , page 14, line 31, at end insert— ““(3A) With regard to sub...
Lord Campbell of Alloway | 688 c990 (Link to this contribution) I was going to make in essence the same suggestion. We need a test that has to be tested; in some wa...
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