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Childcare Bill

Debate on bills on Thursday, 9 March 2006, in the House of Commons, led by Baroness Hughes of Stretford. The answering member was Tim Loughton.
Childcare Bill. Report stage and Third reading debate. Agreed to on question. Passed.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

443 c971-1038 

Session

2005-06

Department

Department for Education and Skills

Legislative stage

Third reading and Report stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Commons chamber

Related items

Childcare Bill. As amended in Standing Committee D.
Tuesday, 20 December 2005
Bills
House of Commons

Proceeding contributions

Speaker | 443 c1021 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following amendments: No. 8, in page 20, line 16, lea...
Annette Brooke | 443 c1021 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 9, in page 20, line 16, leave out from ‘which’ to ‘and’ in line 17 and i...

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Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 443 c1021 (Link to this contribution) The situation of young people in young offender institutions is important. The Government take it se...
Maria Eagle | 443 c1024-5 (Link to this contribution) I hope to be able to provide some reassurance, although in the light of our experience in Committee ...
Tim Loughton | 443 c1023-4 (Link to this contribution) We support the amendment, as the hon. Member for Mid-Dorset and North Poole (Annette Brooke) has sho...
Annette Brooke | 443 c1022-3 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention, which has actually underlined the point that the wo...
David Leslie Taylor | 443 c1022 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Lady not agree that the clause’s existing phrase embraces experience and learning and ...
Annette Brooke | 443 c1021-2 (Link to this contribution) That comment probably does reflect my concerns. As I said in Committee, the word ““taught””, whateve...
Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 443 c1021 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Lady agree with the Daycare Trust, which in its comments on the Bill is worried that t...
Maria Miller | 443 c1018 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that many people listening to the debate will share my disappointment that the Government ...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 443 c1016-8 (Link to this contribution) He may be very good, but he has not listened to the debate, and on that basis I will not give way to...
Peter Bottomley | 443 c1020 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that the Minister has justified her amendment. We know that the children who are most...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 443 c1019 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 15, in page 10, line 17, at end insert—
Peter Bottomley | 443 c1020 (Link to this contribution) The point that I am trying to make, to which I hope the Minister was listening, is that we can use t...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 443 c1020 (Link to this contribution) It may help the hon. Gentleman to get to his point if he understands that the Bill is about children...
Maria Miller | 443 c1019 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an excellent point; I wish that he had been able to make it a little earlier.
Peter Bottomley | 443 c1018-9 (Link to this contribution) : As the Minister rightly said, I was not here at the beginning of the debate—I was chairing a churc...
Maria Miller | 443 c1019 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. I was trying to give him one last chance to say som...
Ed Miliband | 443 c1019 (Link to this contribution) I want to give the hon. Lady one last chance to redeem herself in the eyes of the right hon. Member ...
Maria Miller | 443 c1014 (Link to this contribution) Of course we are talking about the gap between rich and poor and we take that seriously. Surely the ...
Annette Brooke | 443 c1015 (Link to this contribution) It is almost as if crumbs were enough for one group and a feast for another.
Ed Miliband | 443 c1014-5 (Link to this contribution) If class war is being waged, it is being waged, rather uncharacteristically, by the right hon. Membe...
Tim Loughton | 443 c1014 (Link to this contribution) I have sat silently listening to that complete twaddle, although it is reassuring to find that a few...
Ed Miliband | 443 c1014 (Link to this contribution) I think not. It is clear from the Bill that we both want to improve the well-being of young children...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 443 c1016 (Link to this contribution) I beg the hon. Gentleman’s pardon, but I will not. He has only recently come into the Chamber, which...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 443 c1015-6 (Link to this contribution) Many of my hon. Friends have stolen my thunder in terms of replying to the debate, but I am grateful...
Ed Miliband | 443 c1015 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the hon. Lady. The Bill should be passed as it stands. Conservative Members need to do ...
Justine Greening | 443 c1013 (Link to this contribution) I hesitate to engage in such a debate again—the one in Committee was particularly heated—but I want ...
Ed Miliband | 443 c1014 (Link to this contribution) I shall make a brief contribution because Conservative Front Benchers have unwittingly revealed the ...
Tim Loughton | 443 c1012 (Link to this contribution) That is what the amendment says.
Ann Coffey | 443 c1011-2 (Link to this contribution) That is the most unutterable rubbish that I have ever heard in this Chamber. The investment in child...
Roberta Blackman-Woods | 443 c1012 (Link to this contribution) Before I begin my remarks on amendment No. 1, I want to say what a great privilege it was to serve o...
Ann Coffey | 443 c1012 (Link to this contribution) Of course that is what it says—that is why I do not understand the hon. Gentleman’s problem with the...
Speaker | 443 c1013 (Link to this contribution) Order. I think that the hon. Member for City of Durham (Dr. Blackman-Woods) wanted to continue.
Annette Brooke | 443 c1013 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Lady would like to look back at the speech that I made on Second Reading, she would see ...
Speaker | 443 c1013 (Link to this contribution) Order. I remind hon. Members that when they use the word ““you”” they are referring to the occupant ...
Roberta Blackman-Woods | 443 c1013 (Link to this contribution) I was referring, of course, to the fact that the hon. Member for Mid-Dorset and North Poole abstaine...
Annette Brooke | 443 c1035-6 (Link to this contribution) May I, too, thank the Chairmen, Deputy Speakers and all the hon. Members on both sides of the House ...
Peter Bottomley | 443 c1036-8 (Link to this contribution) : My hon. Friend the Member for East Worthing and Shoreham (Tim Loughton) and I have adjoining const...
Peter Bottomley | 443 c1030-1 (Link to this contribution) If the omission had not been spotted and the amendment had not been tabled, this is the kind of chan...
Maria Eagle | 443 c1031 (Link to this contribution) I am happy to do as the hon. Member for Worthing, West (Peter Bottomley) suggests and pass on the co...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 443 c1032-3 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the Bill be now read the Third time. Our debates on the various stages of the B...
Tim Loughton | 443 c1033-5 (Link to this contribution) I echo the Minister in saying that we had well-mannered, good-humoured and well-informed debates on ...
Maria Eagle | 443 c1030 (Link to this contribution) I hope to deal with these amendments very quickly. Government amendment No. 16 refers to the council...
Tim Loughton | 443 c1030 (Link to this contribution) I am a little worried, as the good burghers of the Isles of Scilly must be seething, about an obviou...
Annette Brooke | 443 c1029 (Link to this contribution) That could take us down another route. The task in hand is to remove the word ““taught””, so if the ...
Annette Brooke | 443 c1028-9 (Link to this contribution) I drew a diagram, and I think that the hon. Member for Worthing, West (Peter Bottomley) has expresse...
Peter Bottomley | 443 c1029 (Link to this contribution) We have been taught that the word ““taught”” has six letters. The sixth word after the word ““taught...
Speaker | 443 c1030 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss Government amendment No. 17.
Maria Miller | 443 c1028 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for allowing me to intervene. I wonder whether he shares my concerns. The Min...
Peter Bottomley | 443 c1028 (Link to this contribution) The Minister may choose to respond again at the end of the debate, or she may want to consider this ...
Maria Eagle | 443 c1027-8 (Link to this contribution) No, I shall not give way again on that issue. I want to move on to amendments Nos. 51 and 53, which...
Peter Bottomley | 443 c1028 (Link to this contribution) The Minister has been quite convincing on amendment No. 53. I hope that the interpretation of that i...
Annette Brooke | 443 c1026 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister confirm that in Committee it was established that the word ““taught”” does not app...
Maria Eagle | 443 c1026 (Link to this contribution) But the word ““teaching”” does appear in that document. We could go round in circles for a long time...
Maria Eagle | 443 c1026 (Link to this contribution) I will, but this really is the last time.
Justine Greening | 443 c1026 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful that the Minister recognises that there is confusion. Parents in Putney have expressed...
Maria Eagle | 443 c1027 (Link to this contribution) I hear what the hon. Lady says—her constituency surgeries must be interesting. As we draw up the re...
Lord Stunell | 443 c1025-6 (Link to this contribution) I have been listening carefully to the Minister’s argument, although I have had difficulty in follow...
Maria Eagle | 443 c1026 (Link to this contribution) No, I do not accept that. I said that the words with which Members have tried to replace the word ““...
Maria Eagle | 443 c1026 (Link to this contribution) Yes, but I do not want to go round in circles.
Maria Miller | 443 c1000 (Link to this contribution) It is worth teasing out the information a little further. The figures are clear. We have seen a seis...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 443 c999-1000 (Link to this contribution) I do not have those figures, but I agree that there is churn in the private sector part of the child...
Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 443 c999 (Link to this contribution) For the sake of clarity, the Minister is saying that her contention in Committee—that"““closure rate...
Annette Brooke | 443 c995-7;443 c996-7 (Link to this contribution) : I have no great disagreement with the hon. Member for Wycombe (Mr. Goodman). I certainly share his...
Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 443 c993-5;443 c993-6 (Link to this contribution) As my hon. Friend the Member for East Worthing and Shoreham (Tim Loughton) has pointed out, three mo...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 443 c998-9 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the hon. Member for Wycombe (Mr. Goodman) on his debut to the Front Bench. As he implied, ...
Justine Greening | 443 c997-8 (Link to this contribution) : I support the amendments tabled by my hon. Friend the Member for Wycombe (Mr. Goodman). As hon. Me...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 443 c999 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that there is a conflict in the way in which Conservative Members have selected part ...
Maria Miller | 443 c999 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister pick up on the issue that most concerns us? We have teased out in parliamentary qu...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 443 c999 (Link to this contribution) Certainly, but there was an implication that the Ofsted data that I quoted was incorrect. The data g...
Maria Miller | 443 c999 (Link to this contribution) They cover the majority of such provision.
Speaker | 443 c992 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: New clause 8—BEST VALUE PROVISION OF CHIL...
Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 443 c992 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Maria Eagle | 443 c991-2 (Link to this contribution) We can make that clear. The provisions apply only to those in an education setting who end up on Lis...
Annette Brooke | 443 c989 (Link to this contribution) I, too, was generally pleased with the amendments. Again, there were no accompanying notes. I picked...
Helen Goodman | 443 c988-9 (Link to this contribution) The Minister will recall that in Committee I was concerned that there appeared to be a loophole on t...
Tim Loughton | 443 c986-8 (Link to this contribution) We could create even more of an imbalance between the Front Bench and the Back Benches by drafting i...
Tim Loughton | 443 c990-1 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that elaboration but does the Under-Secretary accept that, because the provisions ...
Maria Eagle | 443 c990 (Link to this contribution) All the easts, norths and wests can be confusing. [Interruption.] Not to mention highs, souths and s...
Maria Eagle | 443 c989-90 (Link to this contribution) I thank hon. Members for being positive about the changes that amendments Nos. 19, 20 and 21 would m...
Annette Brooke | 443 c1008-9 (Link to this contribution) I listened with great interest to the hon. Member for Basingstoke (Mrs. Miller) because, as many of ...
Lord Wills | 443 c1008 (Link to this contribution) Briefly, in the light of the comments by the hon. Member for Basingstoke (Mrs. Miller) about local a...
Maria Miller | 443 c1005-8 (Link to this contribution) I was due to serve on the Committee on this Bill, but because of a double booking with Standing Comm...
Speaker | 443 c1004 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following amendments: No. 34, in page 1, line 8, at e...
Maria Miller | 443 c1004 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 1, in page 1, line 7, leave out ‘reduce inequalities between’ and insert...
Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 443 c1003-4 (Link to this contribution) The Minister said a moment ago that she had not given us much comfort. I agree, and I shall explain ...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 443 c1001-3 (Link to this contribution) I appreciate the hon. Lady’s concern and I know that it is genuine; she raises these issues because ...
Annette Brooke | 443 c1001 (Link to this contribution) I want to repeat my concern that in the light of scarce funds, local authorities will prioritise. Al...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 443 c1000-1 (Link to this contribution) I think the hon. Lady will agree that she is using figures up to the end of December 2004. It is the...
Tim Loughton | 443 c972 (Link to this contribution) I shall not detain the House on these technical amendments, which the Minister was gracious enough t...
Maria Eagle | 443 c972 (Link to this contribution) I apologise to the hon. Gentleman for the fact that we do not appear to have managed to do what we s...
Speaker | 443 c971 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss Government amendment No. 18.
Maria Eagle | 443 c971-2 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to resume our deliberations on the Bill. I hope that we shall be able to deal with ...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 443 c974-5 (Link to this contribution) The purpose of the new clauses and amendments is to allow for a significant improvement in the quali...
Tim Loughton | 443 c975-6 (Link to this contribution) The new clauses are quite chunky, and again I make the point that we had no inkling about them in Co...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 443 c974 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Speaker | 443 c974 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: Government new clause 3—Provision of info...
Annette Brooke | 443 c976-7 (Link to this contribution) I concur 100 per cent. with the hon. Gentleman. At the top of my copy of the amendment paper I wrote...
Justine Greening | 443 c977-8 (Link to this contribution) I concur with my hon. Friend the Member for East Worthing and Shoreham (Tim Loughton). The new claus...
Maria Eagle | 443 c971 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 443 c981 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman might have got me there. As he says, new clause 4 enables the regulations to take...
Maria Eagle | 443 c984 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time.
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 443 c981 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has a smile on his face, as if he thinks he has caught me out, but I think he wil...
Roger Williams | 443 c981 (Link to this contribution) As I understand the Minister’s comments, new clause 3 covers the period before new clause 2 comes in...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 443 c980-1 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady is wrong about that. The level of detail that relates to children of other ages is not...
Tim Loughton | 443 c981 (Link to this contribution) Before the Minister finishes, can she explain what subsection (1) of new clause 3 means? It states:"...
Tim Loughton | 443 c985-6 (Link to this contribution) The amendments deal with child protection, which we have raised before. A lot of water has flowed un...
Annette Brooke | 443 c986 (Link to this contribution) I applaud that breadth of experience, but we frequently refer to Wales in our work on children’s iss...
Speaker | 443 c984 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: No. 49, in page 7, line 2, clause 12, at ...
Maria Eagle | 443 c984-5 (Link to this contribution) The amendments fall into two groups. I shall leave amendment No. 49 until the hon. Member for East W...
Tim Loughton | 443 c978 (Link to this contribution) Will all the people who are given powers as information collators be subject to scrutiny under the B...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 443 c978 (Link to this contribution) The Safeguarding Vulnerable Groups Bill proposes that specific groups of people will be subject to t...
Tim Loughton | 443 c978 (Link to this contribution) I am rather alarmed by that reply, as I thought that the Minister was going to say, ““Yes, obviously...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 443 c978-9 (Link to this contribution) As I told the hon. Gentleman, a compulsory check at the highest level will be made on the people adm...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 443 c978 (Link to this contribution) I sympathise with hon. Members who are anxious about new clauses that have been tabled late in the p...
Justine Greening | 443 c980 (Link to this contribution) I understand how the information might be used by central Government, but it seems slightly contradi...
Annette Brooke | 443 c979 (Link to this contribution) When the regulations are published, will the Minister include a requirement that the local authority...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 443 c979 (Link to this contribution) It will not be necessary to include things on which the local authority must not hold information, b...
Baroness Hughes of Stretford | 443 c980 (Link to this contribution) Existing legislation is not swept away, as the hon. Gentleman will know from his careful reading of ...
Ann Coffey | 443 c1011 (Link to this contribution) But focusing on inequalities means that resources are focused on those who have least. That is what ...
Maria Miller | 443 c1011 (Link to this contribution) My argument is focused on raising standards for the most disadvantaged, and I have tabled amendments...
Justine Greening | 443 c1011 (Link to this contribution) Action is more important than rhetoric. Under this Government, social mobility has dropped rather th...
Ann Coffey | 443 c1009-10 (Link to this contribution) I shall speak briefly on amendment No. 1, which seeks to remove the general duty on a local authorit...
Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 443 c1010 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend the Member for Bognor Regis and Littlehampton (Mr. Gibb) was making this point: when ...
Ann Coffey | 443 c1010 (Link to this contribution) I am not sure how that could possibly happen. The hon. Gentleman’s comment reflects the Conservative...
Lord Goodman of Wycombe | 443 c1010 (Link to this contribution) It is simple: the law depends on the words in the Bill, which are ““reduce inequalities””. If it pro...
Ann Coffey | 443 c1010 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has demonstrated the paranoia to which I have referred. I do not understand what ...
Ed Miliband | 443 c1010 (Link to this contribution) Since the Bill was in Committee, the right hon. Member for West Dorset (Oliver Letwin), who is polic...
Ann Coffey | 443 c1010-1 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for sharing that policy development with Conservative Front Benchers, who are...
Annette Brooke | 443 c1021 (Link to this contribution) This is the most important part of our discussion. We might have had a lengthy and sparky debate on ...
Tim Loughton | 443 c979-80 (Link to this contribution) I hope that the Minister understands why we are trying to establish the detail of the proposal. She ...
Maria Eagle | 443 c1030 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 16, in page 50, line 32, at end insert—

Subjects

Access
Data protection
Databases
Childcare
Curriculum
Disadvantaged
Childminding
Equality
Health
Disqualification
Information
Local government
Low incomes
Powers of entry
Protection
Parents
Police
Pre-school education
Poverty
Local government services
Police cautions
Registration
Standards
Vetting
Schools
Sexual offences

Legislation

Childcare Bill 2005-06

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