Merchant Shipping (Pollution) Bill (HL). Second reading debate. Agreed to on question. Programme motion on proceedings in Committee, on Report, Third reading and any other proceedings agreed to on question (formal). Money resolution agreed to on question (formal). Ways and Means resolution agreed to on question (formal).
Merchant Shipping (Pollution) Bill [HL] 2005-06
Debate on bills on Wednesday, 25 January 2006,
in the House of Commons,
led by Stephen Ladyman.
The answering
member was Julian Brazier.
About these Parliamentary proceedings
Reference
441 c1445-75Session
2005-06Legislative stage
Second readingChamber / Committee
House of Commons chamberRelated items
Merchant Shipping (Pollution) Bill (HL) 2005-06. Brought from the Lords. Explanatory notes Bill 68-EN also published.
Wednesday, 26 October 2005
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Wednesday, 26 October 2005
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Proceeding contributions
Stephen Ladyman | 441 c1471 (Link to this contribution)
I shall address some of the specific issues that were raised by various Members. I agree with the ho...
Julian Brazier | 441 c1471 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister has been generous in giving way. We welcome what he has just said, but he still has not...
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Stephen Ladyman | 441 c1473-4 (Link to this contribution)
Yes, I can answer that. The Bill deals only with hydrocarbon-based fuel oils, so olive oil would not...
Stephen Ladyman | 441 c1471-3 (Link to this contribution)
Short of invading them, all we can do is engage with them diplomatically. I encourage Opposition Mem...
Greg Knight | 441 c1473 (Link to this contribution)
I hope the Minister will pursue the matter of historic vessels and if necessary raise it in the appr...
Tom Brake | 441 c1458-60 (Link to this contribution)
I also welcome the opportunity to debate this short Bill and wish to echo the Minister’s comments ab...
Stephen Ladyman | 441 c1460 (Link to this contribution)
I have reflected on that matter and I am now able to tell the hon. Gentleman that we would not norma...
Tom Brake | 441 c1460 (Link to this contribution)
I thank the Minister for that intervention. I see that he sometimes has difficulty in reflecting at ...
Robert Goodwill | 441 c1461-4 (Link to this contribution)
This is almost a case of déjà vu, because before I elected to this Parliament I was a Member of the ...
Lee Scott | 441 c1464-6 (Link to this contribution)
This is a Bill of only a few pages, yet it has the potential to make a significant increase in the l...
Stephen Hammond | 441 c1469-70 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister said in his opening remarks that the Bill was precise and targeted, and it is. Essentia...
David TC Davies | 441 c1466-9 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for the opportunity to speak and perhaps I should declare an interest. I worked for se...
Julian Brazier | 441 c1470 (Link to this contribution)
We are perplexed. Why could not the Government have made time for it today? We are to finish at arou...
Speaker | 441 c1471 (Link to this contribution)
Order. We should stick to the winding-up speech on the Bill that is before the House.
Julian Brazier | 441 c1455-6 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for that intervention, with which I have considerable sympathy. ...
David Leslie Taylor | 441 c1455 (Link to this contribution)
It is of course right to establish appropriate regimes to compensate for accidents and incidents suc...
Julian Brazier | 441 c1454-5 (Link to this contribution)
I entirely agree with my right hon. Friend on that point, and I was very glad to hear the Minister p...
Greg Knight | 441 c1454 (Link to this contribution)
In rightly placing on the record his concern for the environment, does my hon. Friend agree that not...
Julian Brazier | 441 c1457-8 (Link to this contribution)
We have come full circle, as I said earlier that the countries that have not signed up to the fund a...
David TC Davies | 441 c1457 (Link to this contribution)
: My hon. Friend will no doubt be aware that the largest oil tanker ever to be built will be registe...
Julian Brazier | 441 c1457 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to my hon. Friend for that, and he is right to be concerned. I mean no reflection on t...
Stephen Ladyman | 441 c1456 (Link to this contribution)
I cannot give a date for that announcement today, but I assure the hon. Gentleman that it will be ma...
Julian Brazier | 441 c1456-7 (Link to this contribution)
I am delighted to hear that.
In recent years, huge strides have been made in reducing oil pollution...
Stephen Ladyman | 441 c1452 (Link to this contribution)
I will have to reflect on that and perhaps answer in my winding-up speech. It would be unusual for u...
Stephen Ladyman | 441 c1452 (Link to this contribution)
I can confirm that we are talking to other Departments about that legislation. It is not for me toda...
Lord Randall of Uxbridge | 441 c1452 (Link to this contribution)
I understand why the Minister is introducing the Bill and the urgent need for it, but he has talked ...
John MacDougall | 441 c1453 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for the meeting that we had on ship transfer in the River Forth. As my hon. Friend is ...
Stephen Ladyman | 441 c1453-4 (Link to this contribution)
I am confident that, were an incident to occur in the firth of Forth—let us hope that we are never i...
James Duddridge | 441 c1452-3 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister confirm to my constituents that the Bill applies not only to ships at sea but to s...
Stephen Ladyman | 441 c1453 (Link to this contribution)
Is the hon. Gentleman referring to oil pollution from ships in those waters?
James Duddridge | 441 c1453 (Link to this contribution)
indicated assent.
Stephen Ladyman | 441 c1453 (Link to this contribution)
I think it unlikely that we would have an accident in estuarial waters that required the use of the ...
Julian Brazier | 441 c1448-9 (Link to this contribution)
Surely the Minister appreciates that it is the people who need the money who will lose it if a compa...
Stephen Ladyman | 441 c1448 (Link to this contribution)
The hon. Gentleman talks of free riders, but if those countries do not ratify the fund, they will no...
Stephen Ladyman | 441 c1451 (Link to this contribution)
That is my understanding. I will try to confirm that later for the right hon. Gentleman.
The pollut...
David TC Davies | 441 c1451 (Link to this contribution)
I thoroughly agree with the Minister about the green credentials of shipping. Does he agree that mor...
Stephen Ladyman | 441 c1449-51 (Link to this contribution)
The risk will be spread among all the nations of the world. The extent of the fund as defined under ...
Greg Knight | 441 c1451 (Link to this contribution)
On that point, can the Minister confirm that those regulations are designed to affect only ships cur...
Stephen Ladyman | 441 c1452 (Link to this contribution)
We will inspect to ensure that all the ships that are affected by the provision are properly maintai...
Tom Brake | 441 c1452 (Link to this contribution)
Can the Minister clarify whether that would mean, for example, boarding ships in UK waters when they...
Stephen Ladyman | 441 c1451 (Link to this contribution)
There is considerable work to be done on port capacity and on facilities for trans-shipping using in...
Tom Brake | 441 c1451-2 (Link to this contribution)
Can the Minister explain what in practice it will mean once the UK has signed the annexe? What actio...
Stephen Ladyman | 441 c1445 (Link to this contribution)
I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.
When debating a Bill such as this, it would...
Julian Brazier | 441 c1448 (Link to this contribution)
We strongly support the Bill. The Minister has stressed the role of the UK in promoting the fund. Wh...
Stephen Ladyman | 441 c1446 (Link to this contribution)
I agree with the hon. Gentleman that prevention is vital. The phasing out of single-skinned vessels ...
Greg Knight | 441 c1446 (Link to this contribution)
Will the Minister comment on the definition of ““pollution””? For example, does non-fuel oil such as...
Greg Knight | 441 c1447 (Link to this contribution)
If the Minister cannot answer straight away, I invite him to do so in his winding-up speech. The int...
Stephen Ladyman | 441 c1447-8 (Link to this contribution)
I will indeed confirm that in my winding-up speech, but I understand that we do not have a veto. How...
Tom Brake | 441 c1448 (Link to this contribution)
The Minister may be about to deal with my point. The supplementary fund, together with the original ...
Stephen Ladyman | 441 c1448 (Link to this contribution)
That may be so. The hon. Gentleman is right that the total compensation that will be available from ...
Speaker | 441 c1445 (Link to this contribution)
I inform the House that, in my view, the instruction that appears on the Order Paper is not in order...
Stephen Ladyman | 441 c1470 (Link to this contribution)
I beg leave of the House to reply.
This has been an enjoyable debate. I am delighted, for the first...
Stephen Ladyman | 441 c1457 (Link to this contribution)
I want to deal with the point about ships registered in the Marshall islands. We must be careful not...
Philip Hollobone | 441 c1445-6 (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the Minister for giving way and I appreciate that he is about to outline the benefi...
Stephen Ladyman | 441 c1446-7 (Link to this contribution)
I will certainly deal with those points, if not in this speech, then after seeking the leave of the ...
Julian Brazier | 441 c1454 (Link to this contribution)
I begin by associating the official Opposition with the tribute that the Minister rightly paid to Lo...
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