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Terrorism Bill

Debate on bills on Wednesday, 9 November 2005, in the House of Commons.
Terrorism Bill. Report stage (Bill 84 2005-06)

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439 c325-438 

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2005-06

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Home Office

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Report stage

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New clauses

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House of Commons chamber

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Terrorism Bill. As amended in Committee.
Thursday, 3 November 2005
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Proceeding contributions

Speaker | 439 c348 (Link to this contribution) Order. I am afraid that that matter is sub judice.
Charles Clarke | 439 c325 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 51, in page 22, line 7, leave out ‘special’.

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Charles Clarke | 439 c326-7 (Link to this contribution) Following our exchanges in Committee, I set out clearly to all Scottish Members—I think that the h...
Alistair Carmichael | 439 c326 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Home Secretary for giving way at this early juncture. Why is application in Sco...
Charles Clarke | 439 c326 (Link to this contribution) All the amendments in this group relate to the complex and contentious question of pre-charge detent...
Speaker | 439 c325-6 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following: Government amendments Nos. 52 to 55. Ame...
Charles Clarke | 439 c327 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady has more personal experience of the dilemmas caused by such questions than most hon. M...
Lady Hermon | 439 c327 (Link to this contribution) The Home Secretary will know that successive Chief Constables in Northern Ireland have had to fight ...
Charles Clarke | 439 c327 (Link to this contribution) The answer is yes. On the procedure, I shall come shortly to the codes of practice that will apply...
Dominic Grieve | 439 c327 (Link to this contribution) Can the Home Secretary amplify the exact procedure before the High Court judge? Will it be possibl...
Clare Short | 439 c327 (Link to this contribution) Can my right hon. Friend tell the House whether any of our police officers have suggested that we ha...
Lord Cormack | 439 c328 (Link to this contribution) Further to the point raised by the hon. Member for North Down (Lady Hermon), Sir Hugh Orde will appe...
Charles Clarke | 439 c327-8 (Link to this contribution) Since I have been Home Secretary, there have been no suggestions from any source, the police or the ...
Charles Clarke | 439 c328-9 (Link to this contribution) I shall come on to the amendment tabled by the hon. Gentleman in a few moments. I believe that the t...
Dominic Grieve | 439 c329 (Link to this contribution) The Home Secretary will remember that last week we discussed the possibility of altering the rules a...
Charles Clarke | 439 c329 (Link to this contribution) I do not expect that aspect of the code to deal with the particular point that we debated. Unless I ...
Charles Clarke | 439 c328 (Link to this contribution) I am not aware of any. I have not personally spoken to every chief constable, so I cannot put my han...
Lord Lilley | 439 c328 (Link to this contribution) The Home Secretary has just said that the Chief Constable of Northern Ireland had reached his conclu...
Charles Clarke | 439 c328 (Link to this contribution) I regret to say that the right hon. Gentleman has misunderstood the point that assistant commissione...
William Cash | 439 c328 (Link to this contribution) The Home Secretary may recall that under schedule 8 it would be open to the judicial authority to ...
Keith Vaz | 439 c330 (Link to this contribution) We have heard a lot about the views of the police on the extension of the detention period. Given th...
Charles Clarke | 439 c330 (Link to this contribution) I agree with all that and, as I said to the House both on Second Reading and in Committee, we think ...
David Davis | 439 c330 (Link to this contribution) That is an extremely important point, which was twice raised by Mr. Hayman in his letter. It was rai...
Charles Clarke | 439 c329-30 (Link to this contribution) I shall give way when I have finished what I was saying to the hon. Gentleman. The question of judi...
Lord Campbell of Pittenweem | 439 c331 (Link to this contribution) May I take the Home Secretary back to the issue of the Lord Advocate? From what he told the House ...
Alistair Carmichael | 439 c331 (Link to this contribution) The Home Secretary was right to seek the views of the CPS in England and Wales, and it is right that...
Charles Clarke | 439 c331 (Link to this contribution) I set out as clearly as I conceivably could the precise process that we followed in trying to obtain...
Charles Clarke | 439 c330 (Link to this contribution) I can give my hon. Friend the specific assurance that he seeks on his first point: the CPS strongly ...
Charles Clarke | 439 c331 (Link to this contribution) I want to finish answering my hon. Friend’s question. His second point was very important. Without a...
Clare Short | 439 c332 (Link to this contribution) Will my right hon. Friend give way?
Charles Clarke | 439 c332 (Link to this contribution) I am always ready to accept that the hon. Gentleman leading the Scottish National party finds things...
Clare Short | 439 c332 (Link to this contribution) I want to take my right hon. Friend back to the point about interviewing a person who has been charg...
Charles Clarke | 439 c332 (Link to this contribution) I will give way later. Amendment No. 63, tabled by my hon. Friend the Member for Wolverhampton, Sou...
Charles Clarke | 439 c332 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that it casts any doubt whatever on the case for 90 days, but my right hon. Friend st...
David Howarth | 439 c332 (Link to this contribution) Will the Home Secretary give way?
Charles Clarke | 439 c332-3 (Link to this contribution) Some colleagues have a wonderful tendency not to allow me to answer my right hon. Friend—which I wil...
David Howarth | 439 c333 (Link to this contribution) Would the Home Secretary care to comment on the view that has been expressed to me on the questionin...
Charles Clarke | 439 c333 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman totally misses the point. It is necessary, even under the PACE code that he descr...
Charles Clarke | 439 c334 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes two points, one of which I do not accept and the second of which I do accept. I...
Joan Ruddock | 439 c333 (Link to this contribution) The Prime Minister has sought to make this debate a simple matter of party politics, something with ...
Charles Clarke | 439 c336 (Link to this contribution) I am glad to set the historical record straight. I think that the hon. Gentleman will concede—he wil...
Lord Howard of Lympne | 439 c336 (Link to this contribution) In that recitation of what happened on Monday, the Home Secretary conveniently overlooked the fact t...
Charles Clarke | 439 c335-6 (Link to this contribution) I will give way in my own time. I have seen the hon. Gentleman, who is a very persistent popper up a...
Dominic Grieve | 439 c336 (Link to this contribution) It is right that at Monday’s meeting I said to the Home Secretary that our position continued to be ...
David Davis | 439 c349 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Lady reinforces my point. I should make it clear that I do not blame the police for ...
William Cash | 439 c349 (Link to this contribution) Will my right hon. Friend give way?
Lord Mann | 439 c349-50 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman will be aware of the disquiet among some of his closest colleagues about hi...
David Davis | 439 c349 (Link to this contribution) Before I give way to my hon. Friend, I must allow myself enough time to comprehend his question. I...
Charles Clarke | 439 c350 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman has made that argument frequently. Does he accept that there are easily ima...
David Davis | 439 c350 (Link to this contribution) My conversations with the police have been in order to seek evidence to support any case. I will tel...
David Davis | 439 c350 (Link to this contribution) We are considering circumstances after arrest. When one times the arrest will be dictated by what ha...
David Davis | 439 c351 (Link to this contribution) The Secretary of State can release advice if it is expedient to do so and, I suspect, if it is helpf...
William Cash | 439 c350-1 (Link to this contribution) On the Attorney-General’s position, my right hon. Friend may know that I received a reply from the...
David Davis | 439 c351 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. and learned Gentleman makes a good point. Before 7 July, I analysed most of the inst...
Lord Campbell of Pittenweem | 439 c351 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman allows me, through his reference to the role of the Prime Minister and the ...
Mark Pritchard | 439 c352 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend agree that a suspect who is detained and released without charge after 89 ...
David Davis | 439 c352 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is right. I had some doubts, which I did not express, about the constitutional ...
Lord Deben | 439 c352 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is explaining to the House the alternative means of meeting the need that the p...
David Davis | 439 c351-2 (Link to this contribution) Yes, the hon. Gentleman is ill. He would doubtless confirm that I suggested that the Bill be publish...
David Davis | 439 c352 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend’s point speaks for itself and needs no elaboration.
Angela Watkinson | 439 c352 (Link to this contribution) I wonder what conclusion my right hon. Friend would have drawn if he had been part of the cross-part...
David Davis | 439 c352 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is altogether too clever for me, but he makes a good point and I shall revert to it s...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 439 c347 (Link to this contribution) I thank my right hon. Friend for giving way.
David Davis | 439 c345-7 (Link to this contribution) I start on a sad note, because the Home Secretary’s comments about this not being a politically part...
Charles Clarke | 439 c345 (Link to this contribution) I have said that I will not give way any more. It is the obligation of every hon. Member to underst...
Adrian Bailey | 439 c347 (Link to this contribution) Given that the British judiciary has demonstrated in the past that it is robust in defending human r...
Richard Burden | 439 c345 (Link to this contribution) I think that my right hon. Friend misunderstood the point made by my hon. Friend the Member for ...
Charles Clarke | 439 c344-5 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a serious point. As I said in response to the amendment tabled by my hon. Fri...
Charles Clarke | 439 c345 (Link to this contribution) I apologise to my hon. Friend the Member for Stoke-on-Trent, Central (Mark Fisher), if I misundersto...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 439 c347 (Link to this contribution) My apologies. The right hon. Gentleman suggested that the provision could become the first resort of...
Clare Short | 439 c349 (Link to this contribution) Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that Gareth Peirce, a solicitor who has been involved in many of t...
David Davis | 439 c348-9 (Link to this contribution) The point was made best by the Chairman of the Home Affairs Committee, the right hon. Member for Sou...
Ian Lucas | 439 c348 (Link to this contribution) It is of course correct that this is an extremely difficult issue, but 90 days was proposed because ...
David Davis | 439 c348 (Link to this contribution) I will call the hon. Gentleman my hon. Friend if he is not careful. If he waits for a moment I will ...
Gordon Prentice | 439 c348 (Link to this contribution) (Pendle) We heard last week that 28 days was at the outer limits of what would be acceptable under t...
David Davis | 439 c348 (Link to this contribution) I will not talk about that particular matter, Madam Deputy Speaker, but the hon. Lady makes an impor...
Baroness Hoey | 439 c348 (Link to this contribution) Does the shadow Home Secretary agree that sometimes even Metropolitan Police Commissioners can get i...
David Davis | 439 c347-8 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman will start terrible rumours if he is not careful. The initiative will lie with t...
David Davis | 439 c352 (Link to this contribution) I shall give way to my hon. Friend shortly.
David Davis | 439 c352-3 (Link to this contribution) Yes. The Prime Minister is on the record as saying that the case for the extension to 90 days is ...
Shona McIsaac | 439 c353 (Link to this contribution) So who did the right hon. Gentleman talk to?
David Davis | 439 c353 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Lady want to intervene again?
Michael Jabez Foster | 439 c353 (Link to this contribution) We do not know, because it never happened. The right hon. Gentleman has suggested that arrests shoul...
David Davis | 439 c353 (Link to this contribution) It is interesting that the hon. Gentleman, who is the Parliamentary Private Secretary to the Attorne...
Shona McIsaac | 439 c353 (Link to this contribution) I thank the right hon. Gentleman for giving way. I was intrigued by his answer to my hon. Friend...
David Davis | 439 c353 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Lady will forgive me, I thought that talking to the terrorism experts in the Cabinet Off...
John Baron | 439 c354 (Link to this contribution) Will the shadow Home Secretary continue to press the Home Secretary on the issue of lack of evidence...
David Davis | 439 c354 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes that case better than I could have done. The simple truth is that, in all the i...
Robert Key | 439 c354 (Link to this contribution) Referring back to the intervention by my right hon. Friend the Member for Suffolk, Coastal (Mr. Gumm...
David Davis | 439 c353-4 (Link to this contribution) I have talked to Sir Ian Blair, to Mr. Fox and to a whole series of people whom the Home Secretary o...
David Davis | 439 c355 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a good point. It was clear from the beginning of this process that the majorit...
David Davis | 439 c354-5 (Link to this contribution) I will give way shortly, otherwise this speech will consist entirely of responses to interventions. ...
Ben Wallace | 439 c355 (Link to this contribution) (Lancaster and Wyre) Does the shadow Home Secretary agree that the security services and the police ...
David Davis | 439 c354 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes the point that I am about to come to. The case for 90 days has not been prove...
Dan Norris | 439 c354 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Huw Irranca-Davies | 439 c340 (Link to this contribution) Over the weekend, I sought the views of South Wales police and had a detailed discussion about the m...
Charles Clarke | 439 c340 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend, and I should like to pick out a couple of points. First, he used ...
Charles Clarke | 439 c341 (Link to this contribution) The fact is, we have very different legal systems, which is why it is difficult to make comparisons....
Charles Clarke | 439 c341 (Link to this contribution) I will give way to three more Government Members.
Speaker | 439 c340 (Link to this contribution) Order. The Home Secretary has been generous in giving way, but I urge hon. Members to make brief int...
Madeleine Moon | 439 c340-1 (Link to this contribution) I have attended meetings with the police, and have paid attention to the Hayman review. However, why...
Andrew Dismore | 439 c341 (Link to this contribution) Earlier, my right hon. Friend referred to the evidence of Mr. Clarke to the Joint Committee on Hum...
Charles Clarke | 439 c341 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is correct, and I am grateful to him for expressing it that way. His point about misc...
Joan Ruddock | 439 c341 (Link to this contribution) : I am extremely grateful to my right hon. Friend. Can he confirm whether, in the past 18 months, ...
Charles Clarke | 439 c341 (Link to this contribution) I understand the case that my hon. Friend is making, and the facts that she cites are correct. In on...
Charles Clarke | 439 c342 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. I am not sure whether the phrase ““challenged strongly by the Leader of the...
Ian Lucas | 439 c342 (Link to this contribution) Is it not important to understand that at the end of the 14-day initial detention period, in no circ...
Charles Clarke | 439 c342 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is correct and he makes the point accurately. I agree. Perhaps it is my fault that mu...
Charles Clarke | 439 c342-3 (Link to this contribution) I shall make some progress, but before I conclude I shall give way to one or two of those who want...
Ann Cryer | 439 c343 (Link to this contribution) Has my right hon. Friend had a discussion with the chief constable of west Yorkshire about how he ...
Charles Clarke | 439 c343-4 (Link to this contribution) I have had such conversations, and that goes partly to the answer that I have to my hon. Friend the ...
Mark Fisher | 439 c344 (Link to this contribution) On community involvement, does the Home Secretary accept that if the legislation is passed, it will ...
Charles Clarke | 439 c344 (Link to this contribution) That is a serious point, to which I want to give some time. What my hon. Friend says is utterly wron...
Chris McCafferty | 439 c344 (Link to this contribution) We have heard a great deal in the debate, rightly, about the issues and the implications for the pol...
Charles Clarke | 439 c337 (Link to this contribution) It is striking that the right hon. and learned Gentleman makes his point in such a way. He is righ...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 439 c337-8 (Link to this contribution) Like many hon. Members, I have not been party to any of the discussions since last week, about which...
Charles Clarke | 439 c336-7 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. and learned Gentleman is entirely correct that I did say that to the media after the ...
Lord Howard of Lympne | 439 c337 (Link to this contribution) The Home Secretary will know that I originally raised this matter with the Prime Minister months a...
Charles Clarke | 439 c338 (Link to this contribution) I will give way in my own time, when I have made my own argument, to the people to whom I think it...
Charles Clarke | 439 c338 (Link to this contribution) I give way to the hon. Member for Meirionnydd Nant Conwy (Mr. Llwyd), who was another participant in...
Charles Clarke | 439 c338 (Link to this contribution) The police and the prosecution service have come clearly and unequivocally to the view that in their...
Alan Simpson | 439 c338 (Link to this contribution) Will the Secretary of State give way?
Charles Clarke | 439 c338 (Link to this contribution) I give credit to the right hon. and learned Gentleman for his consistency because he made that argum...
Speaker | 439 c338 (Link to this contribution) Order. It is entirely in the gift of the Home Secretary to decide whether to give way.
Charles Clarke | 439 c339 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is entirely wrong. I said I would continue to consult for the rest of the day, w...
Chris Mullin | 439 c339 (Link to this contribution) With great respect, my right hon. Friend has been misled on the ricin case, because the individual w...
Charles Clarke | 439 c339 (Link to this contribution) I can confirm that that is the case, but the specific example I gave demonstrates that there are cas...
Tony Wright | 439 c339 (Link to this contribution) It is not just the police and the prosecution authorities who support the Government’s position but ...
Elfyn Llwyd | 439 c338-9 (Link to this contribution) : I was grateful to the right hon. Gentleman for agreeing to meet me and my hon. Friend the Member f...
Charles Clarke | 439 c340 (Link to this contribution) I accept part of my right hon. Friend’s rebuke, as it is important not to overstate the case. Howeve...
Lord Beith | 439 c339 (Link to this contribution) Only with major qualifications.
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 439 c339 (Link to this contribution) In my opinion, it is. Lord Carlile also said:"““I am satisfied beyond doubt there have been situatio...
John Denham | 439 c339-40 (Link to this contribution) May I caution my right hon. Friend not to overstate his case? I do not question the integrity of the...
Lord Deben | 439 c423-4 (Link to this contribution) I shall not glorify any of those people, thus protecting myself from the clause. There are circumst...
Speaker | 439 c423 (Link to this contribution) Order. May I ask the right hon. Gentleman to do no such thing? I think that he has pushed this to th...
Oliver Heald | 439 c423 (Link to this contribution) Would my right hon. Friend care to pay tribute to Lord Monteagle, who came from my constituency an...
Lord Deben | 439 c423 (Link to this contribution) For obvious reasons, I am rather opposed to attempts to blow up Parliament. I also happen to think t...
Lord Deben | 439 c422-3 (Link to this contribution) The Government cannot turn around and say, ““We are allowed to do that. This refers to something qui...
John Bercow | 439 c422 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend mentioned Burma, and to do so in my presence is to do the equivalent of prickin...
Lord Deben | 439 c422 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady is absolutely right. What we must do—I have been accused in the past of doing it—is to...
Helen Goodman | 439 c422 (Link to this contribution) Is the right hon. Gentleman aware that 1.8 billion people in the world today live under military dic...
Geoffrey Cox | 439 c424-5 (Link to this contribution) It is a privilege to follow my right hon. Friend the Member for Suffolk, Coastal (Mr. Gummer). My ob...
Mark Harper | 439 c426 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that there is a danger that our opponents, enemies and people who want to ...
Geoffrey Cox | 439 c426 (Link to this contribution) Yes, the right hon. Gentleman probably could not afford them. The point about the Attorney-General’...
Jeremy Wright | 439 c426-7 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to be called to speak in this debate, Mr. Deputy Speaker, but perhaps not so grateful ...
Geoffrey Cox | 439 c426 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree that that is one more danger. In conclusion, the Home Secretary said earlier that ...
Geoffrey Cox | 439 c425-6 (Link to this contribution) He was not a bore, but I may be one. I agree with the hon. Gentleman that Churchill’s comment, parti...
Alex Salmond | 439 c425 (Link to this contribution) I may be wrong, but I recollect that Winston Churchill once said that if he had been a Boer, he woul...
Tony Cunningham | 439 c426 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend could not afford them.
George Howarth | 439 c426 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman believe that any of his examples could possibly pass the test that the Attor...
Geoffrey Cox | 439 c425 (Link to this contribution) It may interest Government Members to know that I spent most of my time defending lost causes. Perha...
John Denham | 439 c432 (Link to this contribution) I wholeheartedly welcome the commitment made by the Home Secretary today to refer the thorny issue o...
Hazel Blears | 439 c432 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my right hon. Friend for that contribution. He will know that we have put a copy of...
Speaker | 439 c432 (Link to this contribution) Order. Far too many extraneous conversations are taking place in the Chamber.
Hazel Blears | 439 c432 (Link to this contribution) Goodness me, what a choice before me. I give way to the hon. Member for South Staffordshire (Sir Pat...
Lord Cormack | 439 c432 (Link to this contribution) Does the right hon. Lady agree with me that it would be rather a good idea if the people of Zimbabwe...
Hazel Blears | 439 c432-3 (Link to this contribution) I am genuinely surprised at the hon. Gentleman. I do not think that it is a good idea in the House o...
Speaker | 439 c433 (Link to this contribution) Order. It is entirely in the Minister’s hands to decide whether to give way. Once again, may I ask f...
Hazel Blears | 439 c433 (Link to this contribution) I was going to address the points made by the right hon. Member for Suffolk, Coastal and the right h...
Edward Leigh | 439 c430 (Link to this contribution) Does the Minister accept that the Burmese regime would consider that I was glorifying terrorism when...
Edward Leigh | 439 c430 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Lady give way?
Hazel Blears | 439 c432 (Link to this contribution) What should be criminal is the indirect incitement and the encouragement of people to commit acts of...
Hazel Blears | 439 c432 (Link to this contribution) Hang on a minute. As I said in Committee, we are on a slippery slope if we start to try to pick and...
Hazel Blears | 439 c431-2 (Link to this contribution) As I have tried to explain, the glorification provision is a guide to the courts that the behaviou...
John Bercow | 439 c432 (Link to this contribution) Should public support for the violent overthrow by long-suffering citizens of a brutal dictatorship ...
Hazel Blears | 439 c430-1 (Link to this contribution) There is a difference between expressing support for people’s actions and that further step where a ...
Jeremy Wright | 439 c431 (Link to this contribution) : I understand that the Minister is saying that the glorification provision is designed to be a guid...
Hazel Blears | 439 c427-8 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to those who tabled the amendments for allowing us to revisit this area. I shall endea...
Dominic Grieve | 439 c428 (Link to this contribution) The Minister must explain what its purpose is. If glorification can amount to incitement without bei...
Hazel Blears | 439 c428-9 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman must have a little patience and allow me to explain the point. He has made that p...
Dominic Grieve | 439 c429-30;439 c430 (Link to this contribution) I am interested in the Minister’s endorsement of the words of the hon. Member for Crewe and Nantwich...
Hazel Blears | 439 c430 (Link to this contribution) It will be no surprise for Members to hear that I do not agree with the hon. Gentleman. Yet again, h...
Stewart Hosie | 439 c429 (Link to this contribution) : I appreciate what the Minister says and what she is attempting do. However, given the wide definit...
Hazel Blears | 439 c429 (Link to this contribution) We debated that point at great length in Committee and we went through all the different examples. T...
Stewart Hosie | 439 c429 (Link to this contribution) It is helpful to have the list that the Minister has given. However, someone might say, to a person ...
Hazel Blears | 439 c429 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend the Member for Crewe and Nantwich (Mrs. Dunwoody), who is no longer in the Chamber, m...
Alistair Carmichael | 439 c366 (Link to this contribution) If that has been the price of the hon. Gentleman’s support today, he has sold himself too cheaply. R...
Hugh Bayley | 439 c366 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is right to say that we must avoid circumstances in which people are detained wit...
Alistair Carmichael | 439 c364 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady and I have dealt with sufficient Northern Ireland business in the past for her to know...
Baroness Hoey | 439 c364 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that it is rather strange that, on the very day the Government are ask...
Alistair Carmichael | 439 c364 (Link to this contribution) No. I need to make some progress, as I have been speaking for 10 minutes already and the House’s tim...
David Hamilton | 439 c364 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Alistair Carmichael | 439 c365-6 (Link to this contribution) I do not think I need take any lectures from the hon. Member for ““loyalty, south-west”” about stick...
Huw Irranca-Davies | 439 c365 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has put a passionate and cogent case for having absolutely no extension, not leas...
Alistair Carmichael | 439 c364-5 (Link to this contribution) No, I have to make some progress in the interests of allowing others to speak. We are charged as pa...
Simon Hughes | 439 c363-4 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend accept that the concerns are not only about communities that may be different fr...
Alistair Carmichael | 439 c363 (Link to this contribution) That is a good point, and I shall deal with it in the course of my speech. The House will recall the...
Alistair Carmichael | 439 c364 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend reminds me of the old adage that a conservative is a liberal whose house has been bro...
Alistair Carmichael | 439 c362 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has already made three interventions in his one and I have to tell him that the p...
Alex Salmond | 439 c363 (Link to this contribution) What does the hon. Gentleman think would be the likely reaction of the House if a Home Secretary wer...
Alistair Carmichael | 439 c362-3 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman can contain himself, we have taken his example as far as we can and it has alw...
Stewart Hosie | 439 c363 (Link to this contribution) Has the hon. Gentleman given any consideration as to whether evidence gathered during 90 days of det...
Alistair Carmichael | 439 c363 (Link to this contribution) I hope that hon. Members will reflect on that. I am a Scottish Member of this House, and for me the ...
Alistair Carmichael | 439 c362 (Link to this contribution) My experience as a court solicitor suggests that if the hon. Gentleman believes that we can derive a...
Dan Norris | 439 c362 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman talks about the need for solid evidence and most of us would agree with that. Alr...
Alistair Carmichael | 439 c362 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Lady makes a fine point and I would not dispute her conclusions. Indeed, the question...
Clare Short | 439 c362 (Link to this contribution) I understand that it is widely alleged that the 7 July bombers were under some sort of surveillance ...
Alistair Carmichael | 439 c361-2 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Walsall, North (Mr. Winnick). In considering how they...
David Winnick | 439 c360-1 (Link to this contribution) No. I have limited time, and the House will perhaps be pleased to hear that I am concluding. I acce...
David Winnick | 439 c360 (Link to this contribution) I think I know the views of my two hon. Friends. May we just work on the assumption that I do not ag...
David Winnick | 439 c360 (Link to this contribution) How could I possibly disagree with that? I am pleased that the hon. Gentleman has made the point, th...
Chris McCafferty | 439 c359 (Link to this contribution) : Is my hon. Friend aware that, in concluding that 28 days was about right, he was in complete agr...
David Winnick | 439 c359 (Link to this contribution) In a moment. As I have said, the police have a perfect right to ask for more time. I am not critici...
David Heath | 439 c359-60 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is making an extremely good speech, and many Members on both sides of the House w...
David Winnick | 439 c359 (Link to this contribution) That is a good point. I am glad that I am in agreement with some people, as I sometimes appear to be...
Angela C Smith | 439 c358 (Link to this contribution) Is it not the case that the 90 days might not have saved lives in the 7 July attack, but that that d...
David Winnick | 439 c358 (Link to this contribution) Not at the moment. This debate is not about the Prime Minister’s authority or the standing of the G...
Clare Short | 439 c359 (Link to this contribution) : Will my hon. Friend give way?
David Winnick | 439 c358-9 (Link to this contribution) The point has already been made: if we readily accept 90 days, and if the police say at some future ...
Clare Short | 439 c358 (Link to this contribution) : Will my hon. Friend give way?
David Davis | 439 c356-7 (Link to this contribution) I said that I would not give way to the hon. Gentleman. If he has a problem with the word ““not””, I...
David Winnick | 439 c357 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the Home Secretary’s comments about High Court judges and the use of the sunset clause. I ...
David Davis | 439 c356 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes the point well. The real risk is that, if we detain and then release one su...
Dan Norris | 439 c356 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
Jeremy Corbyn | 439 c357 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend will be aware that a number of us are totally opposed to 90 days and unhappy with the...
David Winnick | 439 c357 (Link to this contribution) I was asked that question in Committee and pointed out that it did not come from one of my research ...
David Winnick | 439 c357 (Link to this contribution) I will do so in a moment. One thing should be made absolutely clear: there is no division among us ...
Shona McIsaac | 439 c358 (Link to this contribution) Is my hon. Friend therefore telling the House that he feels that the terrorist threat in this day an...
Adrian Bailey | 439 c355 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman give way?
David Davis | 439 c355-6 (Link to this contribution) Not at the moment. We need to exercise foresight in regard to the consequences of these measures, w...
Julian Brazier | 439 c356 (Link to this contribution) Putting the powerful point that my right hon. Friend has just made together with his previous point,...
David Davis | 439 c356 (Link to this contribution) I am on record as having said that we need either to reform, replace or repeal the Human Rights Act ...
David Davis | 439 c356 (Link to this contribution) I will give way to the hon. Member for West Bromwich, West (Mr. Bailey). This will be the last time,...
David Davis | 439 c356 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a very good point. On Second Reading, I said that I did not really see an a...
David Heath | 439 c356 (Link to this contribution) Anybody who is asked whether they agree with the detention of terrorists will answer, ““Yes of cours...
Clare Short | 439 c376 (Link to this contribution) How does my right hon. Friend know that?
John Denham | 439 c376 (Link to this contribution) I said that it is my view. I believe that we would have been doing this with none of the controversy...
William Cash | 439 c376 (Link to this contribution) I wish to make a few simple points about the relationship between the Bill and the Human Rights Act ...
Janet Anderson | 439 c376-7 (Link to this contribution) I want to say at the outset that I shall support the Government in the Lobby this afternoon. Howev...
John Denham | 439 c375-6 (Link to this contribution) : In many ways, this debate is very sad. This Bill will have a marginal effect on our overall securi...
Ben Wallace | 439 c375 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. If we accept the preventive principle, where will we stop? Detention for 9...
John Denham | 439 c376 (Link to this contribution) I will not give way, as I want to make progress. If the Government and police between them could no...
Pat McFadden | 439 c374 (Link to this contribution) : The hon. Gentleman asks why we should not extend the power further. Does he accept that in their e...
Pat McFadden | 439 c373 (Link to this contribution) (Wolverhampton, South-East) rose—
Ben Wallace | 439 c373-4 (Link to this contribution) I will not give way at the moment. It is important that we do not forget those lessons. If we alien...
John Bercow | 439 c374-5 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is making a superb speech. I put it to him that the intervention by the hon Membe...
Lord Deben | 439 c374 (Link to this contribution) : Is it not always true that there are two arguments for destroying human rights: one is, ““We have ...
Ben Wallace | 439 c374 (Link to this contribution) I agree. It is ironic that the Northern Ireland (Offences) Bill, which tries to win hearts and minds...
Ben Wallace | 439 c372 (Link to this contribution) : I do not speak as a lawyer, although eminent lawyers have participated in our debate. I am certain...
Rob Marris | 439 c371-2 (Link to this contribution) I shall confine my remarks to amendment No. 63. I shall not accept interventions, except from Fron...
Michael Mates | 439 c371 (Link to this contribution) I agree. The Government have got themselves into this mess, and they have to get themselves out of i...
Michael Mates | 439 c371 (Link to this contribution) I am terribly keen to bring my remarks to an end, but I give way to my hon. Friend the Member for Be...
Dominic Grieve | 439 c371 (Link to this contribution) Is not the logic of my right hon. Friend’s argument that the Government should not have drafted any ...
John Bercow | 439 c370 (Link to this contribution) In common with my hon. Friend the Member for South Staffordshire (Sir Patrick Cormack), I always l...
Michael Mates | 439 c370 (Link to this contribution) As I was saying earlier, this is something that the Government must explain. I know about certain ma...
Lord Beith | 439 c370-1 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman and I have worked together a great deal on such matters. I counsel him of t...
Michael Mates | 439 c371 (Link to this contribution) I am not saying that the information is significantly different, but that there is considerably more...
Michael Mates | 439 c370 (Link to this contribution) I do not dissent from what my hon. Friend says. Irrespective of how it is done, something needs to b...
Lord Cormack | 439 c370 (Link to this contribution) : My right hon. Friend has the advantage of serving on the Intelligence and Security Committee. I am...
Ben Wallace | 439 c368 (Link to this contribution) : Will the hon. Lady tell me the difference between what she proposes, which is to take precautionar...
Claire Curtis-Thomas | 439 c369 (Link to this contribution) The difference is the issue of scrutiny. The police have sought judicial review of the suggested pro...
Claire Curtis-Thomas | 439 c368 (Link to this contribution) If I may, I shall continue. I intend that we go back and check how well the procedures are being ex...
Lord Garnier | 439 c368 (Link to this contribution) I have worked with the hon. Lady and have publicly praised her for her work in support of people wro...
Claire Curtis-Thomas | 439 c368 (Link to this contribution) I accept those words of caution and I understand what motivates my colleague, the hon. and learned G...
Alistair Carmichael | 439 c366-7 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady makes a fine point and I commend her for it. The judiciary does occasionally get thing...
Claire Curtis-Thomas | 439 c367-8 (Link to this contribution) I rise to defend and support the 90-day proposals outlined in clause 23. I have probably put more w...
Michael Mates | 439 c369-70 (Link to this contribution) In my brief remarks last week, I said that we must think very carefully before rejecting the advice ...
Lynne Jones | 439 c366 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that this House cannot abdicate its responsibility to judicial oversig...
David Heath | 439 c403 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry that the hon. Lady feels affronted or insulted. I do not know what her community is, but ...
Lyn Brown | 439 c403 (Link to this contribution) Someone using a religious script would be fine. The issue is the interpretation of that religious sc...
David Heath | 439 c402 (Link to this contribution) I agree that he would have a duty to stop, but that is asking a good deal of someone providing a sim...
Dominic Grieve | 439 c402 (Link to this contribution) Let us suppose that someone is called in to interpret a speech given in Arabic by a cleric to a Brit...
David Heath | 439 c402 (Link to this contribution) There are a number of points to make. First, we are dealing with a constraint on freedom of speech, ...
Hazel Blears | 439 c402 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman accept that it is appropriate to have an objective recklessness test in the ...
David Heath | 439 c401-2 (Link to this contribution) The Government are developing a prodigious talent for snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. The...
Speaker | 439 c403 (Link to this contribution) Order. I think the hon. Gentleman must first reply to the intervention from the hon. Member for Ox...
Lyn Brown | 439 c403 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Evan Harris | 439 c403 (Link to this contribution) That sort of language should not be protected simply because it is in holy scripture if it constitut...
Robert Marshall-Andrews | 439 c399-400 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree. Incitement is a concept that is well known to the criminal law and in common law. ...
Evan Harris | 439 c399 (Link to this contribution) Is not the problem for the hon. Member for Wakefield (Mary Creagh) the word ““encouragement””? As th...
Robert Marshall-Andrews | 439 c400 (Link to this contribution) Yes, it is. The convoluted drafting of clause 1 is going to be nightmare for anyone who has to deal ...
Stewart Hosie | 439 c400 (Link to this contribution) : Is the fundamental problem here not that the Bill would criminalise us because we implied somethin...
Robert Marshall-Andrews | 439 c399 (Link to this contribution) As always, I respect my hon. Friend’s comments. If one couched a statement in those terms, I agree t...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 439 c399 (Link to this contribution) If one says, ““I fully understand but in no way endorse and could never support such a move””, it is...
Robert Marshall-Andrews | 439 c400 (Link to this contribution) That may well be right. That could be the solution. In the argument that I have just postulated, th...
Dominic Grieve | 439 c400 (Link to this contribution) Because of the procedure involved, the first bite of the cherry will involve getting rid of Governme...
Robert Marshall-Andrews | 439 c401 (Link to this contribution) I profoundly disagree with the hon. Gentleman. I would foresee the consequences on unreasonable peop...
Dominic Grieve | 439 c400-1 (Link to this contribution) Under the test that I am proposing in amendment No. 19, if the people who were listening were unreas...
Dominic Grieve | 439 c410-1 (Link to this contribution) The concept of unlawful glorification is alien to our law. On the whole, if people wish to go out an...
Dominic Grieve | 439 c411 (Link to this contribution) Che Guevara was a student pin-up when I was at university; indeed, there were Che Guevara societies....
Dominic Grieve | 439 c411 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman raises a possible unintended consequence. In fairness to the Prime Minister, I do...
Lembit Opik | 439 c411 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that the provision would apply not only to Guy Fawkes and Robin Hood b...
Dominic Grieve | 439 c412-3 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is quite right. Of course, the commemorations of the Easter rising that are due t...
Peter Robinson | 439 c412 (Link to this contribution) We still have a realistic case in Northern Ireland. A significant section of the community no doubt ...
Dominic Grieve | 439 c412 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady makes a serious point. During the war, the Germans described those who were resisting ...
Helen Goodman | 439 c412 (Link to this contribution) I do not know whether the hon. Gentleman recalls the statement that Churchill made in the middle of ...
David Heath | 439 c413-5 (Link to this contribution) I entirely concur with the hon. Member for Beaconsfield (Mr. Grieve). There is no place for the offe...
Robert Marshall-Andrews | 439 c404 (Link to this contribution) Strangely enough, I agree, but I do not entirely understand why it is a flaw. I do not see why it sh...
David Heath | 439 c403-4 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I was wondering whether I would be required to give a sede...
Hazel Blears | 439 c404-5 (Link to this contribution) I will not detain the House for long, but it is right that I say a few words. I seek acknowledgement...
David Heath | 439 c404 (Link to this contribution) I do understand that point, but it underlines how difficult it is to construct an offence in the ter...
Hazel Blears | 439 c405 (Link to this contribution) I understand the hon. Gentleman’s position, in that he is struggling with modern drafting. All I can...
Dominic Grieve | 439 c405 (Link to this contribution) I did acknowledge earlier, I hope, that there appears to be some slight difference between the test ...
Speaker | 439 c409-10 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following amendments: No. 15, in page 2, line 14, le...
Dominic Grieve | 439 c409 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 3, in page 1, line 15, leave out subsection (2).
Speaker | 439 c410 (Link to this contribution) Order. I am sorry to interrupt the hon. Gentleman. The hon. and learned Member for Medway (Mr. Marsh...
Dominic Grieve | 439 c410 (Link to this contribution) These amendments address the important issue of the encouragement of terrorism. As the Minister will...
Hazel Blears | 439 c392-3 (Link to this contribution) I refer my hon. and learned Friend to amendments Nos. 35, 41 and 42, which address the effect on the...
Hazel Blears | 439 c392 (Link to this contribution) I am glad that the hon. Gentleman appreciates that the formulation that we propose for the clause is...
Robert Marshall-Andrews | 439 c392 (Link to this contribution) I hope that I can be constructive on this point. The Minister will be aware that I have tabled amend...
Hazel Blears | 439 c391-2 (Link to this contribution) Again, we have trawled over this ground to a large extent, but the offence has two limbs: the making...
Mike Hancock | 439 c392 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for that explanation. However, bearing in mind the criteria that she h...
Robert Marshall-Andrews | 439 c391 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister address a not-so-hypothetical example that concerns a lot of people? Given the sta...
Hazel Blears | 439 c390 (Link to this contribution) We explored those issues in detail in Committee and, as I told the hon. Gentleman then, if he looks ...
John Bercow | 439 c390-1 (Link to this contribution) As a matter of some pride, I state that I am not a lawyer, but that does not preclude me from havi...
Dominic Grieve | 439 c390 (Link to this contribution) Every day of the week, juries conclude that people are not telling the truth when they claim not to ...
Dominic Grieve | 439 c389 (Link to this contribution) I was grateful to the Home Secretary when he said that he would amend the original clause 1, because...
Hazel Blears | 439 c389 (Link to this contribution) As I continue, I hope that I will be able to convince the hon. Gentleman that the formulation that w...
David Heath | 439 c389 (Link to this contribution) Is not the difficulty that the right hon. Lady is trying to encompass with the same clause both a su...
Hazel Blears | 439 c389-90 (Link to this contribution) No, I hope that as I develop my argument the hon. Gentleman will appreciate that the provisions deal...
Speaker | 439 c387-8 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to discuss the following amendments: No. 19, in page 1, line 5, leav...
Hazel Blears | 439 c388 (Link to this contribution) The amendments respond to points that were raised in Committee and seek to allay some of the conce...
Speaker | 439 c388 (Link to this contribution) Order. It is only fair to the Minister that hon. Members leave the Chamber quietly.
Hazel Blears | 439 c388-9 (Link to this contribution) I am only sorry that this debate is not as much of a draw as the main attraction earlier, but I will...
Lord Cormack | 439 c377 (Link to this contribution) : The Government have treated the House badly in their handling of the matter. They have not briefed...
Hazel Blears | 439 c387 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment No. 34, in page 1, line 5, leave out subsection (1) and insert—
Robert Marshall-Andrews | 439 c398-9 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry that we will not have a meeting of minds. It is a matter of semantics more than anything ...
Mary Creagh | 439 c399 (Link to this contribution) Surely there is a difference between trying to understand the causes of terrorism—we must include jo...
Robert Marshall-Andrews | 439 c398 (Link to this contribution) : I should like to speak to amendment No. 64, which stands in my name and those of several others. I...
Sally Keeble | 439 c398 (Link to this contribution) : I have heard my hon. and learned Friend make much more provocative and inflammatory statements. I ...
Robert Marshall-Andrews | 439 c399 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry because my comments will be repetitive. If I am a seriously radicalised Muslim who is con...
Dominic Grieve | 439 c397 (Link to this contribution) I accept that point, but the Minister seemed to hint that if we introduce a recklessness test, as de...
Evan Harris | 439 c398 (Link to this contribution) : Article 5 of the convention refers to intention. Does the hon. Gentleman agree that if the Governm...
Dominic Grieve | 439 c398 (Link to this contribution) I see no necessity to adopt amendment No. 34 in order to comply with the convention test. I do not ...
Stewart Hosie | 439 c397-8 (Link to this contribution) : We discussed this matter at the meeting on Monday with the Home Secretary and his team. Members ...
Dominic Grieve | 439 c398 (Link to this contribution) The amendment suggests that we have the wrong recklessness test. If Members disagree, they will supp...
Evan Harris | 439 c393-4 (Link to this contribution) In response to an amendment that I tabled in Committee, I think that the Minister indicated that the...
Hazel Blears | 439 c394-5 (Link to this contribution) I remember our discussion in Committee. I think that the response that I gave to the hon. Gentleman ...
Dominic Grieve | 439 c395-6 (Link to this contribution) As I said in my intervention on the Minister, I wanted to welcome the Home Secretary’s conversion on...
Sally Keeble | 439 c396 (Link to this contribution) : I am not a lawyer, but I understand the differences between honest and reasonable belief and betwe...
Dominic Grieve | 439 c397 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady is right: there are other examples where we have kept a test akin to recklessness, but...
Sally Keeble | 439 c397 (Link to this contribution) I used to report such cases when I was a reporter in the 1980s, which is a very long time ago. That ...
John Bercow | 439 c393 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that that deals with the issue. I acknowledge that the Minister has worked hard to tr...
Hazel Blears | 439 c393 (Link to this contribution) I do not propose to narrow the offence to the point at which it would become impossible to prosecute...
Sally Keeble | 439 c393 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend agree that the formulation of some of the Government’s proposals is simila...
Hazel Blears | 439 c393 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. She takes an approach that I hope that the whole House will adopt. She take...
Lord Deben | 439 c420-1 (Link to this contribution) Be it far from me, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I was trying to say that what was true in that discussion be...
Dominic Grieve | 439 c421 (Link to this contribution) Does my right hon. Friend agree that there is a strange sense in the Bill, and particularly in the g...
Lord Deben | 439 c421-2 (Link to this contribution) I find that particularly peculiar from a Government who have entered, in my view, an entirely illega...
Lord Deben | 439 c418-9 (Link to this contribution) The word ““glorification”” is pretty unusual. Its only regular use is in the formularies of the Chur...
Mark Harper | 439 c419 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend referred to ecclesiastical language at the beginning of his speech. Is not it...
Lord Deben | 439 c419-20 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend has put his finger on the reason for my unhappiness with the word. He is right that, ...
Speaker | 439 c420 (Link to this contribution) Order. I am very grateful that the right hon. Gentleman has glorification very much in his sights. I...
Speaker | 439 c418 (Link to this contribution) Order. My point was that they might be apposite but not necessarily strictly in order.
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 439 c418 (Link to this contribution) You have been indulgent, Mr. Deputy Speaker. However, I trust that it is in order to press my questi...
Dominic Grieve | 439 c418 (Link to this contribution) As I understand it, the Bill certainly has an extra-territorial application. Interestingly, although...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 439 c417-8 (Link to this contribution) I agree with my right hon. Friend. That is one reason to be particularly cautious when hon. Members ...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 439 c416-7 (Link to this contribution) I support my hon. Friend the Member for Beaconsfield (Mr. Grieve) on his amendment No. 3. I would ...
Lord Deben | 439 c417 (Link to this contribution) Would not the Government have to take for granted the information laid before them by a foreign Gove...
Dominic Grieve | 439 c415 (Link to this contribution) If the Government were prepared to look again at the provision, that would be sensible. Clause 21 pr...
David Heath | 439 c415-6 (Link to this contribution) Precisely so. That is why I hope that even at this late stage the Minister will give an assurance th...
David Heath | 439 c415 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman is right, and the provision will prejudice British interests in future. Peo...
Lord Deben | 439 c415 (Link to this contribution) : Is there not an important reason why this is not just a passing thing that can be ignored? The dif...
Alex Salmond | 439 c331-2 (Link to this contribution) How has it transpired that the Lord Advocate, Scotland’s senior Law Officer, expressed to the Home S...
Adrian Bailey | 439 c356 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman is very generous. He has been making the case that the extension to 90 days...
Speaker | 439 c418 (Link to this contribution) Order. I think that the right hon. and learned Gentleman will anticipate why I have intervened at th...
David Davis | 439 c347 (Link to this contribution) I am not the hon. Gentleman’s right hon. Friend.
David Davis | 439 c347 (Link to this contribution) The answers are no and no.—[Interruption.] If the hon. Member for Bassetlaw (John Mann) wants me t...
Shona McIsaac | 439 c353 (Link to this contribution) Is the right hon. Gentleman, who is a neighbour of mine, telling me that he did not speak to the ACP...
Patrick Hall | 439 c342 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend has been challenged strongly by the Leader of the Opposition and others for not...
Hazel Blears | 439 c430 (Link to this contribution) I want to press on. Unfortunately, there are young and impressionable people in our society who can...
John Denham | 439 c376 (Link to this contribution) I will not give way to the hon. Gentleman, because I hope that other Members may get in. We need no...
David Heath | 439 c411 (Link to this contribution) I was struck by the hon. Gentleman’s recollections of his student days. When he was at Oxford, did h...
Lord Clarke of Nottingham | 439 c418 (Link to this contribution) I accept your doubtless correct ruling, Mr. Deputy Speaker, that I should not press the detail of my...
Elfyn Llwyd | 439 c334 (Link to this contribution) Will the Home Secretary give way?
Tony Wright | 439 c339 (Link to this contribution) I should have thought that the name of Lord Carlile would have some resonance among Opposition Membe...
Hazel Blears | 439 c433 (Link to this contribution) No, I want to deal with—[Interruption.]
Hazel Blears | 439 c430 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is persistent. I give way.
David Hamilton | 439 c364 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
David Winnick | 439 c358 (Link to this contribution) I did not think that there would be any controversy about the acute terrorist threat. Anyone who tri...
Ben Wallace | 439 c374 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the intervention. I remember that a year ago the police said they wanted 14 days...
Hazel Blears | 439 c391 (Link to this contribution) As I say, we covered a lot of this ground in Committee, and I have genuinely tried to narrow the pro...
David Davis | 439 c350 (Link to this contribution) I feel under some duty to give way to my hon. Friend.
Edward Leigh | 439 c423 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend mentioned history. Does he think that Guy Fawkes was right to try to blow up Pa...

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Civil liberties
Criminal proceedings
Codes of practice
Appeals
Detainees
Applications
Arrests
Evidence
Incitement
Judges
National security
Prosecutions
Police custody
Terrorism
Remand in custody
Cryptography
High Court
Habeas corpus
Encouragement of terrorism
Sunset clauses

Legislation

Terrorism Bill 2005-06

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