Criminal Defence Service Bill (HL). Lords Committee stage. Grand Committee off the floor of the House (Moses Room). Clauses 1 and 2 agreed to. Remaining clauses agreed to. Bill reported without amendment.
Criminal Defence Service Bill [HL]
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2005-06Legislative stage
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Criminal Defence Service Bill (HL). Explanatory Notes HL Bill 4-EN also published.
Monday, 23 May 2005
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Monday, 23 May 2005
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Lord Goodhart | 673 c14-5GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 5:
"Page 3, line 6, after ““Regulations”” insert ““shall make provision for exc...
Lord Goodhart | 673 c11GC (Link to this contribution)
I accept of course that it is perfectly legitimate for the Government to wish to remove abusive appe...
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Lord Kingsland | 673 c1-3GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 1:"Page 2, line 15, leave out ““Secretary of State”” and insert ““Lord Chancello...
Lord Kingsland | 673 c4GC (Link to this contribution)
I have no alternative but to withdraw my amendment at this stage, because I am informed by the Deput...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 673 c3-4GC (Link to this contribution)
I should say to the noble and learned Lord, Lord Mayhew, the clarity I sought was due to ignorance o...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 673 c3GC (Link to this contribution)
First, I apologise to the noble Lord, Lord Kingsland, that there was no date on the letter—that was ...
Lord Goodhart | 673 c17-8GC (Link to this contribution)
I take a minor degree of comfort from the Minister’s explanation that the intention of new paragraph...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 673 c18GC (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble Lord. Apart from any illegal outgoings that we might not recognise, I can...
Lord Goodhart | 673 c18GC (Link to this contribution)
I am not so sure. Page 7 of the framework document states that the proposed allowances to be deducte...
Lord Goodhart | 673 c11-3GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 4:"Page 2, line 24, leave out ““““paragraph 2A or 4”” and insert ““““17A or para...
Lord Haskel | 673 c1GC (Link to this contribution)
Before I put the Question that the Title be postponed, I remind your Lordships of two points of proc...
Lord Mayhew of Twysden | 673 c6-7GC (Link to this contribution)
I congratulate the Government on mitigating the opacity of the Bill by producing the framework docum...
Lord Kingsland | 673 c5GC (Link to this contribution)
In turn, I will go back and look at the 2003 order, which drew my attention to one of the schedules....
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 673 c16-7GC (Link to this contribution)
I agree with the noble Lord, Lord Goodhart, that this is probably the most important amendment. As I...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 673 c17GC (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to the noble and learned Lord. We shall look at that wording to see whether it would o...
Lord Goodhart | 673 c19GC (Link to this contribution)
In a significant number of cases in the magistrates’ courts the costs of defence go well beyond £500...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 673 c13GC (Link to this contribution)
I am a huge fan of delegated powers. I will go through the amendments that the noble Lord has tabled...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 673 c11GC (Link to this contribution)
The noble Lord makes the point very well. I have said that I am quite happy to consider that whole q...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 673 c21-2GC (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful for the infamous letter that I sent because it has provided a backdrop to a number of ...
Lord Kingsland | 673 c22GC (Link to this contribution)
I shall withdraw my amendment because I am compelled to do so by the procedure of the Moses Room. I ...
Lord Goodhart | 673 c3GC (Link to this contribution)
I am sympathetic with the comments of the noble Lord, Lord Kingsland. It is not an issue on which ei...
Lord Ackner | 673 c3GC (Link to this contribution)
I can hear the noble Baroness very well.
Lord Ackner | 673 c6GC (Link to this contribution)
I hope that I will be forgiven for continuing to sit. I support the amendment tabled by the noble Lo...
Lord Goodhart | 673 c5-6GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 3:"Page 2, line 22, at end insert—"
““( ) In paragraph 4, the words ““Exce...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 673 c4-5GC (Link to this contribution)
Indeed, and I apologise to the noble Lord, Lord Kingsland. He has the benefit of having before him t...
Lord Mayhew of Twysden | 673 c3GC (Link to this contribution)
I apologise for not being present at Second Reading. However, I read the entire debate—not that it t...
Lord Haskel | 673 c14GC (Link to this contribution)
Before calling Amendment No. 5, I must inform the Committee that it contains a mistake; that is, ““r...
Lord Goodhart | 673 c14GC (Link to this contribution)
I am grateful to hear the noble Baroness say that she will accept the recommendations of the Delegat...
Lord Mayhew of Twysden | 673 c17GC (Link to this contribution)
I hope that I am in order to speak after the Minister. I am heartened to hear the noble Baroness say...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 673 c18-9GC (Link to this contribution)
I am sorry to interrupt the noble Lord again, but we are describing an average cost of some £500. I ...
Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 673 c8-11GC (Link to this contribution)
We have had an interesting debate and I am grateful to those noble Lords who have raised issues arou...
Lord Kingsland | 673 c7-8GC (Link to this contribution)
I associate myself with all the speeches that have been made on the topic so far, and I shall add my...
Lord Goodhart | 673 c11GC (Link to this contribution)
I am most grateful for that. I shall look with interest at the matter. As I understand it, we are un...
Lord Kingsland | 673 c19-21GC (Link to this contribution)
moved Amendment No. 10:"Page 3, line 27, at end insert—"
““( ) No provision in this section sh...
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