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Online Safety Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Thursday, 27 April 2023, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay. The answering member was Lord Stevenson of Balmacara.
Lords committee stage third day. Clauses 8 to 10, as amended, agreed to. Clause 11 under consideration. (Part 2 of 2).

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

829 cc1328-1390 

Session

2022-23

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber
Online Safety Bill 2021-22 to 2022-23. Brought from the Commons.
Wednesday, 18 January 2023
Bills
House of Lords
Online Safety Bill
Thursday, 27 April 2023
Parliamentary proceedings
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2023-0711
Monday, 4 September 2023
Deposited papers
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 829 c1330 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

16: Clause 8, page 7, line 16, after “governance...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 829 cc1330-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this group of amendments concerns terms of service. All the amendments either have the ...


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Baroness Kidron | 829 c1332 (Link to this contribution)

I support these amendments, which were set out wonderfully by the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson. I w...

Lord Allan of Hallam | 829 cc1332-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very pleased that the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson, has given us the opportunity to ...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 829 cc1334-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for this short and focused debate, which has been helpful, and for the po...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 829 c1337 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to the Minister for that very detailed response, which I will have t...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 829 c1338 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay

16A: Clause 8, page 7, line 23, after “19(2)” ...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 829 c1338 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay

16B: Clause 9, page 7, line 27, leave out “all...

Lord Moylan | 829 c1338 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Moylan

17: Clause 9, page 7, line 30, leave out “prevent individuals fr...

Lord Moylan | 829 cc1338-1340 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is a very large and wide-ranging group of amendments. Within it, I have a number o...

Lord Allan of Hallam | 829 c1339 (Link to this contribution)

Just to reinforce the point the noble Lord, Lord Moylan, made on that, I certainly had experience...

Lord Moylan | 829 cc1339-1341 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Lord. I really wonder whether the Government realise what they are wal...

Bishop of Guildford | 829 cc1341-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 128, 130 and 132, as well as Amendments 143 to 153 in this g...

Lord Allan of Hallam | 829 cc1343-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is again a very helpful set of amendments. I want to share some experience that sh...

Baroness Buscombe | 829 cc1345-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before speaking to my Amendment 137, I want to put a marker down to say that I strongly...

Baroness Kidron | 829 c1347 (Link to this contribution)

I ask the Committee to have a level of imagination here because I have been asked to read the spe...

Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 829 c1347 (Link to this contribution)

I do not know who advised the noble Baroness—and forgive me for getting up and getting all former...

Baroness Kidron | 829 cc1347-9 (Link to this contribution)

I beg the pardon of the Committee. I asked about it and was misinformed; I will do as the noble B...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 829 cc1349-1350 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendments in this group that probe how removing illegal material is unde...

Lord Allan of Hallam | 829 c1350 (Link to this contribution)

In talking about individuals and investigations, the noble Baroness reminded me of one class of c...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 829 cc1350-1 (Link to this contribution)

That is very helpful.

I am concerned that removing so-called illegal content for the purpos...

Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 829 cc1351-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my contribution will be less officious than my intervention earlier in this group. In t...

Lord Bethell | 829 cc1352-3 (Link to this contribution)

It is a great honour to follow my noble friend. I completely agree with her that this is a powerf...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 829 c1353 (Link to this contribution)

I want to clarify one point. I have had a slightly different experience, which is that for many p...

Lord Bethell | 829 cc1353-4 (Link to this contribution)

I defer to the noble Baroness, Lady Fox, on speech crime. That is not the area of my expertise, a...

Lord Allan of Hallam | 829 c1354 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to mention one issue that I forgot to mention, and I think it would be mor...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 829 cc1354-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we seem to have done it again—a very long list of amendments in a rather ill-conceived ...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 829 c1355 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as well as throwing up some interesting questions of law, this debate has provoked some...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 829 cc1357-8 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord.

I was pleased to hear about Wicipedia Cymraeg—there being no “k” in...

Lord Allan of Hallam | 829 c1358 (Link to this contribution)

I am struggling a little to understand why the Minister thinks that sufficient evidence is subjec...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 829 c1358 (Link to this contribution)

I take the noble Lord’s point and my noble friend’s further contribution. I will see whether I ca...

Lord Allan of Hallam | 829 c1359 (Link to this contribution)

Again, I think that that is clear. I understood from the Bill that, if an American says something...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 829 c1359 (Link to this contribution)

If it has been committed in the UK and is viewed by a UK user, it can be treated as illegal. I wi...

Lord Moylan | 829 c1359 (Link to this contribution)

Before he moves on, is my noble friend going to give any advice to, for example, Welsh Wikipedia,...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 829 cc1359-1361 (Link to this contribution)

I will deal with all the points in the speech. If I have not done so by the end, and if my noble ...

Lord Moylan | 829 cc1361-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is genuinely difficult to summarise such a wide-ranging debate, which was of a very ...

Baroness Kidron | 829 c1362 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to intrude, but I must say now on the record that I was speaking on my own behalf. The...

Lord Moylan | 829 cc1362-3 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to hear the noble Baroness say that, and it shows that that pool of common ground ...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 829 c1363 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay

18A: Clause 9, page 8, line 23, at end insert—...

Lord Beith | 829 c1363 (Link to this contribution)

If Amendment 20 is agreed, I cannot call Amendment 21 by reason of pre-emption.

Amendment 2...

Baroness Kidron | 829 c1363 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Kidron

20: Clause 10, page 9, line 11, leave out paragraphs (a) to ...

Baroness Kidron | 829 cc1363-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment and Amendments 74, 93 and 123 are part of a larger group that have been ...

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick | 829 cc1366-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Kidron. I have listened intently to...

Bishop of Oxford | 829 cc1367-1370 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendments 20, 93 and 123, in my name and those of the noble Baroness, Lady K...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 829 cc1370-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I really appreciated the contribution from the noble Baroness, Lady Ritchie of Downpatr...

Baroness Kidron | 829 c1371 (Link to this contribution)

The report found—I will not give a direct quotation—that social media contributed to the death of...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 829 cc1371-2 (Link to this contribution)

I completely understand that; I was making the point that there will be disagreements in judgment...

Lord Russell of Liverpool | 829 c1372 (Link to this contribution)

To respond briefly to the noble Baroness, I shall give a specific example of how Amendment 93 wou...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 829 c1372 (Link to this contribution)

I appreciate that that this is the case we all have in the back of our minds. I am asking whether...

Baroness Kidron | 829 c1372 (Link to this contribution)

I will answer the noble Baroness more completely when I wind up, but I just want to say that she ...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 829 c1373 (Link to this contribution)

I will finish here, because we have to get on, but I did not introduce content; it is in the four...

Baroness Benjamin | 829 cc1373-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak in support of these amendments with hope in my heart. I thank the noble Barones...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 829 c1374 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in keeping with the Stevenson-Knight double act, I am leaving it to my noble friend to ...

Lord Bethell | 829 cc1374-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I restate my commitment to Amendments 20, 93 and 123, which are in my name and those of...

Baroness Harding of Winscombe | 829 cc1377-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support this group of amendments, so ably introduced by my noble friend and other nob...

Lord Allan of Hallam | 829 cc1378-1380 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will echo the sentiments of the noble Baroness, Lady Harding, in my contribution to a...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 829 cc1380-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, over the last few hours I have praised us for having developed a style of discussion an...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 829 cc1382-3 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken on this group and for the clarity with which the...

Baroness Harding of Winscombe | 829 c1383 (Link to this contribution)

Where are the commercial harms? I cannot totally get my head around my noble friend’s definition ...

Lord Knight of Weymouth | 829 c1383 (Link to this contribution)

In that vein, will the noble Lord clarify whether that definition of content does not include pai...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 829 cc1383-4 (Link to this contribution)

I was about to list the four Cs briefly in order, which will bring me on to commercial or contrac...

Baroness Kidron | 829 c1384 (Link to this contribution)

I agree that content, although unfathomable to the outside world, is defined as the Minister says...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 829 cc1384-7 (Link to this contribution)

I have tried to outline the Bill’s definition of content, which I think will give some reassuranc...

Baroness Kidron | 829 cc1387-8 (Link to this contribution)

I thank all the speakers. There were some magnificent speeches and I do not really want to pick o...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 829 c1388 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay

21A: Clause 10, page 10, line 1, after “19(2)”...

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay | 829 c1389 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay

22A: Clause 11, page 10, line 6, at end insert...

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