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Northern Ireland Troubles (Legacy and Reconciliation) Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Tuesday, 31 January 2023, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Caine. The answering member was Lord Murphy of Torfaen.
Lords committee stage second day. Schedule 1 agreed to. Clauses 3 and 4 agreed to. (Part 1 of 2).

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827 cc572-624 

Session

2022-23

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Committee stage

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House of Lords chamber

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Proceeding contributions

Lord Browne of Ladyton | 827 c572 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Browne of Ladyton

12: Schedule 1, page 50, line 34, leave out “Secretar...

Lord Browne of Ladyton | 827 cc572-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 12 and 13 in my name and those of the noble Baroness, Lady O...


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Baroness O'Loan | 827 cc574-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this group of amendments refers to the independence of the commission to be created. Th...

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick | 827 cc576-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendments in the name of my noble friend Lord Browne of Ladyton. Over th...

Baroness Hoey | 827 cc577-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before I speak to my Amendment 14A, I just want to say that we may be wearing the same ...

Lord Hogan-Howe | 827 c578 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I just want to comment on a small but important point that the noble Baroness, Lady O’L...

Lord Dodds of Duncairn | 827 cc578-580 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to comment briefly on the amendments in this group. Before I do so, once again, ...

Baroness Suttie | 827 cc580-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I start by agreeing with the noble Lord, Lord Dodds, in thanking the Minister for his g...

Lord Eames | 827 c581 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Browne, gives us the opportunity to do two things...

Lord McCrea of Magherafelt and Cookstown | 827 cc581-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the independence of commissioners will be vital to the success of this commission, and ...

Lord Murphy of Torfaen | 827 cc582-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is an interesting and timely debate. I join many of your Lordships in thanking the...

Lord Caine | 827 cc583-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Murphy of Torfaen, for his kind words, and t...

Lord Browne of Ladyton | 827 cc586-7 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for his characteristically engaging response. He addressed a significant num...

Lord Bew | 827 c588 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bew (CB)

36: Clause 4, page 4, line 31, at end insert—

“(4) Befor...

Lord Bew | 827 cc588-9 (Link to this contribution)

My amendment to Clause 4 is similar to Amendments 99 and 101, which I spoke to in previous discus...

Baroness O'Loan | 827 c589 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend for giving way. I think the Supreme Court decided that the particular app...

Lord Bew | 827 cc589-590 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend for that intervention. I think the implications of the Supreme Court ruli...

Lord Hain | 827 c590 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too pay tribute to the Minister for his open door and willingness to engage. I hope t...

Lord Caine | 827 c590 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord is always welcome.

Lord Hain | 827 cc590-2 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister. However—this is no criticism of him—I think that he is doing his very best ...

Baroness Hoey | 827 c592 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt. How were the victims consulted, and what did they think about the pardon...

Lord Hain | 827 cc592-4 (Link to this contribution)

Actually, those letters, which started before my time as Secretary of State, were not pardons at ...

Lord Cormack | 827 cc594-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very glad to have added my name to Amendment 112, in the name of the noble Lord, L...

Lord Hain | 827 cc595-6 (Link to this contribution)

I do not disagree with anything the noble Lord has said. The problem is that the House’s role is ...

Lord Cormack | 827 c596 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord says that we cannot reject a Bill, but of course we can. It should be done very ra...

Baroness O'Loan | 827 cc596-9 (Link to this contribution)

I will add to the words of the noble Lord, Lord Cormack, about the options open to the House at p...

Baroness O'Loan | 827 cc598-601 (Link to this contribution)

It is complicated. Clause 18 provides that the commission can grant immunity for not only all ide...

Lord Browne of Ladyton | 827 cc601-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have amendments in this group. I say emphatically at the outset to the noble Lord, Lo...

Viscount Brookeborough | 827 cc604-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to mention one factor which may be naïve and maybe I just cannot see it, b...

Lord Dodds of Duncairn | 827 cc605-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is an honour to follow the very powerful speech of the noble Viscount, Lord Brookebo...

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick | 827 cc608-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a powerful debate because, irrespective of their party-political affiliat...

Lord Weir of Ballyholme | 827 cc609-610 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in dealing with this group of amendments, as we have to, it is undoubtedly the case, as...

Viscount Brookeborough | 827 c610 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps the noble Lord would like to ask the question of what information given to the commission...

Lord Weir of Ballyholme | 827 cc610-1 (Link to this contribution)

That is an entirely fair and justified point. I look forward to the Minister responding directly ...

Lord Eames | 827 cc611-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, apart from all else that has been said, this group of amendments takes the House to the...

Lord McCrea of Magherafelt and Cookstown | 827 cc612-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I agree with every word that the noble and right reverend Lord, Lord Eames, said. For 5...

Baroness Suttie | 827 cc613-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as was said by the noble Baroness, Lady Ritchie, this is an extremely important debate....

Lord Murphy of Torfaen | 827 cc614-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a very impressive, rather stunning debate. I have tabled Clause 18 stand ...

Lord Caine | 827 cc615-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to say that I will try to be brief, but I fear that that might be impossib...

Lord Hain | 827 c617 (Link to this contribution)

I of course acknowledge that letter, since I helped get it together, and I have said in debate th...

Lord Caine | 827 cc617-9 (Link to this contribution)

I appreciate what the noble Lord has said. I pay tribute to the work of Jon Boutcher, and I hope ...

Baroness O'Loan | 827 c619 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for giving way. I would just like to ask him: does he think that Clause 18 i...

Lord Caine | 827 c619 (Link to this contribution)

I dealt with this to some extent last week, but I will go on to deal with it later in the course ...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 827 c619 (Link to this contribution)

There is a big difference between starting from scratch and having something fully worked out. Th...

Lord Caine | 827 c619 (Link to this contribution)

The words “I’ll believe it when I see it” spring to mind, given the experience of successive Gove...

Lord Cormack | 827 c619 (Link to this contribution)

I do not want to delay things unduly but, if my noble friend were to have a round table with thos...

Lord Caine | 827 cc619-621 (Link to this contribution)

It might well be that a round table of noble Lords who have taken part in this debate could produ...

Viscount Brookeborough | 827 c621 (Link to this contribution)

Does he mean that the commission will ask them who their accomplices were and that they must not ...

Lord Caine | 827 c621 (Link to this contribution)

It is fairly straightforward. The commission will ask whatever questions it believes to be approp...

Baroness O'Loan | 827 c621 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for giving way. Very briefly, his Amendment 137 refers to “other harmful con...

Lord Caine | 827 cc621-4 (Link to this contribution)

I will need to read the clause through again and come back to the noble Baroness on that, if I ma...

Lord Bew | 827 c624 (Link to this contribution)

I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

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