Economic Crime (Transparency and Enforcement) Bill
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Wednesday, 2 March 2022
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Moved by
Lord Callanan
1: Clause 4, page 2, line 19, at end insert “and, where applic...
My Lords, we start with a group of government amendments to collect more information about trusts...
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My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendment 17. I am delighted that it has also been signed by the nob...
My Lords, I support the theme of what the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, just said, which is the...
My Lords, we find ourselves in an unusual position. Normally, this House is trying to knock the e...
My Lords, I shall speak in support of the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, and his Amendment 17. I...
I thank the Minister for the way in which he has engaged with his officials to try to address som...
I will just underline one point that the noble Lord, Lord Coaker, made. At Second Reading we got ...
I just make a very brief point to my noble friend. Because of migraine, I was unable to take part...
First, I thank noble Lords for their comments. I do not disagree with the sentiments of a lot of ...
My Lords, I think that everybody in this House, as was the case last week, is on the same page, a...
My Lords, perhaps I could just add to what the noble Lord has just said. The Minister mentioned t...
Indeed, I am happy to provide the reassurances that both noble Lords have asked for—in the case o...
Moved by
Lord Agnew of Oulton
3: Clause 4, page 3, line 21, at end insert—
“(3A...
I really want to carry on in a similar vein to earlier comments, and what my Amendment 3 is tryin...
My Lords, I rise to speak to a number of amendments in my name in this group—there are eight of t...
My Lords, I support most of the amendments in the group, including the government amendments, whi...
My Lords, I will make a couple of observations on the amendments put forward by my noble friends ...
My Lords, there is clearly a great deal we can learn from Jersey and I am very happy to follow th...
My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 53. I thank the noble Lords, Lord Cromwell and Lord Vaux, fo...
My Lords, I had not intended to speak today. I came to learn and listen to the experts on areas I...
I think it is obvious that the Minister will accept a lot of these amendments, because they are f...
My Lords, this is the first time I have spoken today. I will make a couple of points from the Fro...
My Lords, this is yet another group of amendments with contributions from across the Chamber that...
First, I thank all noble Lords who have contributed to this debate. Before I address the amendmen...
Just thinking off the top of my head, I can think of four registers of this ilk which exist alrea...
I would be happy to debate with the noble Lord. When I queried this, my information was that Germ...
I refer the Minister to an entity called Business Bank Italy Ltd. It was owned by a convicted Maf...
We are not opening the door. I assume that the companies the noble Lord is referring to are exist...
Does the 25% limit cater for class rights in the definition of control? In other words, you can h...
I think it refers to rights of control—the actual percentage shareholding of the company—but if I...
Can the Minister help me and explain why they would be non-compliant if they had two weeks within...
Yes, but they would have to be tabling notices to any potential beneficial owners in order to upd...
The Minister has not addressed the point that this can easily be dealt with by bringing forward t...
No, I do not disagree with that. It is, of course, perfectly possible—
My Lords, on the same point, would it not be helpful for a third party to know who it is actually...
Indeed it would be helpful, and that is why we have the transparency of the register in the first...
I do not wish to be argumentative with the Minister—well, perhaps I do—but can he confirm in resp...
Yes, that provides the required legal certainty to the third party that is buying it, at the expe...
My Lords, I am afraid I do not agree with the Minister; I am amazed that he thought that I would....
Of course, we are constantly looking at these matters. The Treasury is implicitly engaged in purs...
Each time the Minister speaks on this, I do not hear him acknowledge that there is a problem. In ...
I am happy to agree with the noble Lord. If there is one firm of accountants or one legal practic...
My Lords, I am sorry to interrupt the Minister and slow the proceedings but, on that point, the M...
Yes. Obviously, a number of different government departments would be involved in doing this, but...
Does my noble friend think it would be a good idea to set up a Committee of your Lordships’ House...
The noble Lord often suggests setting up special Committees of this House. He will know that it i...
The Minister was kind enough to offer to meet with me about my Amendment 24. I actually asked abo...
Yes, I am happy to meet with the noble Lord and his colleagues to discuss that matter.
I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.
I advise the Committee that if Amendment 33 is agreed to, I cannot call Amendment 34 by reason of...
Moved by
Lord Callanan
33: Clause 9, page 7, line 23, leave out sub-paragraph (i) and...
My Lords, I start this grouping by speaking to the government amendments, which I have tabled. Th...
My Lords, I apologise; I am not sure if it is my turn or someone else’s. I have four amendments i...
My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow my noble friend Lord Sikka, who again comes forward with a n...
My Lords, my colleagues are doing all the heavy lifting from these Benches, and I am incredibly g...
I think that is a story for the noble Baroness’s memoirs, and I look forward to reading it.
My Lords, I shall speak about Amendment 92 in the names of the noble Lord, Lord Coaker, and the n...
My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Pannick. I am glad that he had the oppo...
I am very grateful to the noble Lord. I had an unavoidable other professional commitment, and the...
It did indeed, and I am glad that the noble Lord has had the opportunity to speak.
Once aga...
I am mindful that several noble Lords, including the noble Baroness, Lady Chapman of Darlington, ...
I am very grateful to the noble Lord for giving way. He talks, understandably, about a transition...
The noble Lord will know from his time in Government that the law officers provide confidential l...
My Lords, I assume that the noble Lord, Lord Faulks, has had the answer he required. To come back...
I totally understand the point the noble Lord is making. I cannot give him a precise date; all I ...
Given that your Lordships’ House has demonstrated that it can process statutory instruments at an...
It is a number of different things. There are administrative procedures to be put in place; the I...
I am sorry, but I had not quite got an answer. I absolutely appreciate the Minister’s sincerity i...
I thank the noble Lord for his legal advice; I should not let my prejudices against lawyers get i...
My Lords, I apologise that I was not here for Second Reading. I went down with a very bad cold an...
I am happy to explain it to the noble and right reverend Lord. This is a severe piece of legislat...
Moved by
Baroness Kramer
40: Clause 14, page 9, line 34, at end insert—
“(1A) T...
My Lords, I will try to be brief on this issue. Amendments 40 and 41 both refer to whistleblowers...
My Lords, I rise very briefly to make my first contribution in Committee on these two very import...
I support the amendment of the noble Baroness, Lady Kramer. I accept that it is unlikely to go in...
I rise briefly, in part to support this whistleblower amendment. I have asked questions on this i...
My Lords, in some ways, the amendments from the noble Baroness, Lady Kramer—she has done the Hous...
I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Kramer, for this amendment. I acknowledge that she has a very im...
I asked not what the Government had done but what they were going to do.
Sorry; I misunderstood.
It is right and proper that the Government review the whistleblowin...
Obviously, I am very disappointed with the answer and the ongoing complacency that undermines the...
Moved by
Lord Eatwell
42: Clause 16, page 10, line 24, at end insert—
“(A1) All...
My Lords, I explained at Second Reading that lack of data verification at Companies House has bee...
My Lords, I entirely support what the noble Lord, Lord Eatwell, said. It is very much along the l...
My Lords, I will speak briefly on this issue, because I am very much of the opinion, as are many ...
My Lords, I share the concerns expressed about the need for rigorous verification. I note that Cl...
Before the Minister tries to answer that, we need to recognise delivering what the noble Lord, Lo...
I will quickly add to the comments from the noble Lord, Lord Pannick. Clause 16 sets out the regu...
My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend Lord Eatwell for moving Amendment 42. As we all know, ...
I first thank the noble Lord, Lord Eatwell, for tabling Amendment 42 and for his thoughtful contr...
My Lords, I always think that the government defence of “not necessary” is the weakest we ever he...
Moved by
Lord Fox
43: Clause 18, page 11, line 18, leave out paragraph (b)
Memb...
My Lords, Amendment 43 is also signed by the noble Lord, Lord Coaker. During Second Reading, I sp...
My Lords, it might be helpful for the Committee, before it debates this amendment, if I set out t...
My Lords, in view of that, I will not press my Amendment 44.
It would be appropriate to thank the Minister for agreeing to accept the amendment in my name and...
I said it would be swift, but I had not calculated that it would be quite this swift, so I thank ...
Moved by
Lord Callanan
54: Clause 32, page 19, line 13, at end insert—
“(5A) Th...
My Lords, Amendments 54 and 84 require the Secretary of State to consult the devolved Administrat...
My Lords, as someone who takes a close interest in devolution matters, I am delighted with these ...
As a fellow member of the Constitution Committee, I endorse what the noble and learned Lord said....
Never has the noble Lord, Lord Callanan, received such glowing praise, in my experience, and here...
I can add to the Minister’s embarrassment. We are pleased to see these amendments brought forward...
I should quit while I am ahead on this one. I am not sure this will continue with other Bills, bu...
Moved by
Lord Clement-Jones
90: Clause 47, leave out Clause 47 and insert the followi...
This amendment would provide limits on costs orders in relation to all civil recovery proceedings...
My Lords, I will be brief. I have listened very careful to the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, an...
My Lords, I thank both noble Lords for their points on this amendment. The Government are as one ...
I just have a question. In the context of this Bill, the choice of UWOs was regarded by many as c...
Yes, I think I was clear in my opening remarks that I am not at odds with the noble Lord, Lord Cl...
My Lords, the Minister is speaking the language I understand now—if it is technically flawed, the...
I am very happy to explore the cost landscape after this Bill because, as I said, I am principall...
I was somewhat concerned by the lack of response to what the noble Lord, Lord Fox, said about UWO...
I share the sentiment of my noble friend that they will not be a niche activity. The measures in ...
My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for her responses. As she understands, one of my main mot...
Moved by
Baroness Neville-Rolfe
91: Clause 52, page 32, line 35, at end insert—
My Lords, as we move on to the final group, I rise to move my Amendments 91 and 96. I was sorry t...
My Lords, I recognise that we are on the home straight. On Amendment 91, the House needs to be cl...
Just for clarification, my proposal is for sunset regulation within the regulations, not within t...
My mistake; I struggle with joined-up writing.
Since I get only bite of the cherry and have...
It is a real pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Cromwell. I spoke at length on this matter l...
My Lords, I shall speak in support of my amendment, which seeks to achieve two things: an annual ...
My Lords, given the hour, I will be concise and crack on in support of the need for sufficient hu...
My Lords, I rise briefly to support the amendment from the noble Lord, Lord Agnew. Over the years...
We are in danger of reaching the end of this in unanimous agreement, so I shall introduce a littl...
My Lords, this seems an appropriate group on which to end Committee. It seems almost as if we hav...
My Lords, I thank all noble Lords for these amendments. I must admit that, as we reach the end of...
Before the Minister sits down, while progress has been made on providing funding for the investig...
My Lords, within the agencies, particularly the NCA, of course we have great expertise and insigh...
Further to the question from the noble Lord, Lord Empey, has the Minister consulted the Inland Re...
My Lords, I stray into the work of other departments—both the Home Office and the Treasury—but I ...
My Lords, I am very grateful to all those who have taken part in this short debate. I thank my no...