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Nationality and Borders Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Thursday, 10 February 2022, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage fifth day. Clauses 67 to 84 agreed to. Bill reported without amendment. (Part 2 of 2).

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2021-22

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Nationality and Borders Bill 2021-22. Brought from the Commons.
Thursday, 9 December 2021
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Proceeding contributions

Lord Coaker | 818 cc1904-5 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Coaker

172B: Clause 67, page 71, line 13, at end insert—

“(1A) Th...

Lord Coaker | 818 cc1905-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my Amendments 172B and Amendment 174A relate to Clause 67.

I say at the outset th...


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Baroness Ludford | 818 cc1906-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to lend our support from these Benches to both the amendments of the noble...

Lord Stewart of Dirleton | 818 cc1907-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 172B, moved by the noble Lord, Lord Coaker, and concerning Clause 67, disappl...

Lord Flight | 818 c1908 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, can the Minister say what the contemporary definition of slavery is? We all know what s...

Lord Stewart of Dirleton | 818 cc1908-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my noble friend Lady Williams here: the short answer is to look at the Modern Sl...

Lord Coaker | 818 cc1909-1910 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for his answer. It was a short debate but an important one. There are couple...

Baroness Hamwee | 818 c1910 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

174: After Clause 67, insert the following new Clause—

Baroness Hamwee | 818 cc1910-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 174, I will leave my noble friends Lord German and Lord Wallace to ...

Lord German | 818 cc1911-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 181 seeks an exemption from the immigration health surcharge for internationa...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 818 cc1913-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 183, which I hope the Government may be willing to accept bef...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 818 cc1915-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord makes a very strong case, but I rise to strongly support Amendment 174, ...

Lord Green of Deddington | 818 c1917 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 183 in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Wallace of Saltaire, which ...

Lord Faulks | 818 cc1917-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am happy to join the noble Lords, Lord Green and Lord Wallace, and others who have br...

Lord Berkeley of Knighton | 818 cc1918-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure and privilege to make this trio of noble Lords—of naughty boys—into a ...

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard | 818 c1919 (Link to this contribution)

I support all three amendments in this group and particularly that of the noble Lord, Lord Wallac...

Earl Attlee | 818 cc1919-1920 (Link to this contribution)

My Lord, I strongly support the basic thrust of Amendment 183 in the name of the noble Lord, Lord...

Lord Rosser | 818 cc1920-2 (Link to this contribution)

Amendment 174 would return rights to people in the UK who are on the overseas domestic workers vi...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 818 c1922 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in this debate. I thought it might be helpful t...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 818 c1922 (Link to this contribution)

The fact is that I do not think it is an unusual case; I asked Kalayaan for a recent case study a...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 818 c1922 (Link to this contribution)

I am not going to look at it again but I will perhaps explore it further and see why what is happ...

Lord Green of Deddington | 818 c1922 (Link to this contribution)

Is the Minister aware that, in some countries, applicants choose those families that come to Lond...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 818 cc1923-4 (Link to this contribution)

Between what the noble Lord has just outlined and what the noble Baroness, Lady Lister, has just ...

Lord Rosser | 818 c1924 (Link to this contribution)

Four years is quite a long time to produce a report. Why has it taken four years to date and why ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 818 c1924 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will have to think of a new phrase: perhaps “shortly”.

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 818 c1924 (Link to this contribution)

I say to noble Lords that I share their concerns. I will also be writing to the Committee before ...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 818 c1925 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hope the Home Office has consulted the FCDO on this issue. The Minister will be aware...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 818 c1925 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I acknowledge all the points that the noble Lord has made and agree that there is more ...

Baroness Hamwee | 818 c1925 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friends both made very powerful cases. I hope that my noble friend Lord Wallac...

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick | 818 cc1925-6 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick

175: Clause 71, page 74, line 16, at end ins...

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick | 818 cc1926-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendment is in my name and those of the noble Baroness, Lady Suttie, and my noble ...

Baroness Suttie | 818 cc1928-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak in favour of Amendment 175 tabled by the noble Baroness, Lady Ritchie of D...

Viscount Brookeborough | 818 cc1929-1930 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment moved by the noble Baroness, Lady Ritchie. I had not necessaril...

Baroness Hamwee | 818 cc1930-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment moved by the noble Baroness, Lady Ritchie, and spoken to by oth...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 818 c1931 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Baronesses, Lady Ritchie of Downpatrick and Lady Suttie, for raising ...

Baroness Ludford | 818 cc1931-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will very briefly give support from these Benches to all three of these amendments. T...

Lord Moylan | 818 c1932 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I, too, should declare that I am both British and Irish since birth. I understand the dif...

Lord Coaker | 818 cc1932-3 (Link to this contribution)

I will add my voice of support to my noble friend Lady Ritchie. It is good to have the perspectiv...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 818 cc1933-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords very much for participating in this short but powerful debate. I th...

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick | 818 c1934 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for giving way. Could he outline to the Committee how these ETAs will operat...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 818 cc1934-5 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness for that intervention. I am going to come on to a number of those poin...

Viscount Brookeborough | 818 c1935 (Link to this contribution)

Can I just make one point? Northern Ireland is the size of Yorkshire. What the Minister is really...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 818 c1935 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Viscount—sort of. There will be no hard border. As I said, there is not going t...

Lord Coaker | 818 c1935 (Link to this contribution)

I say gently to the Minister that he has to be really careful with language on things such as con...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 818 cc1936-7 (Link to this contribution)

I completely understand the point that the noble Lord, Lord Coaker, is making. I promise him that...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 818 c1937 (Link to this contribution)

I wanted to ask my noble friend about what happens when there is a technical malfunction, but I t...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 818 c1937 (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree with my noble friend: obviously it is important to have well-established proto...

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick | 818 cc1937-8 (Link to this contribution)

I thank all noble Lords who have contributed to this debate from across the Committee. I say to t...

Baroness Hamwee | 818 c1938 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

175ZB: Clause 74, page 79, line 7, leave out subsection (3)<...

Baroness Hamwee | 818 c1938 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the short point that my noble friend Lord Paddick wanted to make, as he generally does,...

Lord Rosser | 818 cc1938-9 (Link to this contribution)

This clause would extend the use of Schedule 7 to the Terrorism Act to people who have been detai...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 818 cc1939-1940 (Link to this contribution)

I thank both Members of the Committee for their remarks. Schedule 7 examinations have been instru...

Baroness Hamwee | 818 c1940 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Minister said there is a deliberate time limit to these powers. I may be reading th...

Baroness Hamwee | 818 c1940 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady McIntosh, has her name to the opposition to Clause 76 standing...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 818 c1940 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps while the noble Baroness looks at her handwriting, as a lefty, liberal lawyer, I say brie...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 818 cc1978-1980 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will very briefly say how much I support the noble Lord, Lord Oates; he made a very p...

Baroness Ludford | 818 c1980 (Link to this contribution)

I stress that these Benches as a whole support my noble friend Lord Oates’s amendment, as we cons...

Lord Rosser | 818 cc1980-1 (Link to this contribution)

I certainly do not want to detain the Committee, but, as has been said, we are in a situation whe...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 818 cc1981-2 (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords who have spoken in this debate and express my admiration for the noble Lord, ...

Lord Oates | 818 c1982 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for her response. Given the lateness of the hour, I shall not dela...

Lord Judge | 818 c1982 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Judge

182: After Clause 78, insert the following new Clause—

“Com...

Lord Judge | 818 cc1982-3 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness, Lady Chakrabarti, has had to leave and has left me to speak. I start by apolo...

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard | 818 cc1983-4 (Link to this contribution)

I love surreal art, even if I do not always understand it. This amendment seems to be completely ...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 818 c1984 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a theme running through the Committee, so it is perhaps fitting that we s...

Baroness Hamwee | 818 c1984 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as a fellow penitent, though in my case probably for taking too much interest and spend...

Baroness Ludford | 818 c1985 (Link to this contribution)

Whether the amendment is a warning, surreal or whatever, surely if the Government believe their a...

Lord Rosser | 818 c1985 (Link to this contribution)

We certainly support the amendment. Throughout the passage of the Bill, the Government have repea...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 818 c1985 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble and learned Lord, Lord Judge, for speaking on behalf of the noble Bar...

Lord Judge | 818 c1985 (Link to this contribution)

I shall of course withdraw the amendment for today, reflecting with some sadness that there is no...

Lord Moylan | 818 cc1985-6 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Moylan

184: After Clause 78, insert the following new Clause—

“Co...

Lord Moylan | 818 cc1986-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise for detaining the Committee, given the lateness of the hour. I am grateful ...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 818 cc1988-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was pleased to add my name to this amendment. At the risk of frazzling the Government...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 818 cc1989-1991 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, most of the Bill has focused on those who are trying to arrive in this country and whos...

Lord Rosser | 818 cc1991-2 (Link to this contribution)

I will listen with interest to the Minister’s reply, on behalf of the Government, to this amendme...

Lord Stewart of Dirleton | 818 cc1992-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, so many of the points made in the submission of the noble Lord, Lord Rosser, appear in ...

Baroness Fox of Buckley | 818 c1993 (Link to this contribution)

That is a very helpful answer. I understand the technical difficulties of accepting the amendment...

Lord Stewart of Dirleton | 818 c1993 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Baroness for her intervention. I cannot promise that any such debate w...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 818 c1994 (Link to this contribution)

I asked some very specific questions on the Section 55 review, partly because I thought that the ...

Lord Stewart of Dirleton | 818 c1994 (Link to this contribution)

I am obliged to the noble Baroness, and I apologise for not raising the matter before I went to s...

Lord Moylan | 818 c1994 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think that, if the House divided now, we might win on this, but let us not pursue tha...

Baroness Hamwee | 818 c1995 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

187: After Clause 78, insert the following new Clause—

Baroness Hamwee | 818 cc1995-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will move the amendment tabled by the noble Baroness, Lady Chakrabarti, and supported...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 818 cc1996-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak very briefly to support the amendment. Seven years ago, I was a member of ...

Baroness Ludford | 818 c1997 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to say a few sentences as my last words in Committee—thank goodness, at 11 o’clo...

Lord Rosser | 818 c1997 (Link to this contribution)

I certainly endorse the words of the noble Baroness, Lady Ludford, about my noble friend Lady Lis...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 818 cc1997-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will start by making the noble Baroness, Lady Lister, happy by talking about alternat...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 818 c1999 (Link to this contribution)

I may have missed it because of the lateness of the hour, but I am not sure the Minister addresse...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 818 c1999 (Link to this contribution)

I did address that point. The noble Baroness will not be surprised to know that we are against pu...

Baroness Hamwee | 818 c2000 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, obviously that is disappointing. I do not feel I am in a position to judge what, on the...

Baroness Hamwee | 818 c1941 (Link to this contribution)

That is very kind of the noble Baroness. My handwriting is perfectly clear; it is just that it ma...

Lord Rosser | 818 cc1941-3 (Link to this contribution)

As we indicated in Committee in the Commons, we think that the provisions in these two clauses ar...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 818 cc1943-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the three noble Lords who have taken part in this debate. I should note for the...

Lord Rosser | 818 c1944 (Link to this contribution)

On the basis that the Government have a very clear idea of how many instances there are of unreas...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 818 c1944 (Link to this contribution)

It will not surprise the noble Lord that I will have to write to him with those details, if I can...

Lord Rosser | 818 c1944 (Link to this contribution)

I would certainly be interested to see them.

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 818 cc1944-5 (Link to this contribution)

To encourage increased consideration of whether to make costs orders, Clause 77 provides a duty o...

Baroness Hamwee | 818 c1945 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise to the House that I am my noble friend Lord Paddick, who opposed the clause...

Baroness Hamwee | 818 c1945 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

175A: Clause 78, page 81, line 20, leave out from “State” to...

Baroness Hamwee | 818 cc1945-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, on Tuesday the noble Lord, Lord Wolfson, brought into the Chamber the Criminal Law Hand...

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 818 c1946 (Link to this contribution)

I advise the Committee that if this amendment is agreed to, I will not be able to call Amendment ...

Lord Rosser | 818 cc1946-7 (Link to this contribution)

As the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, has said, this clause gives the Secretary of State the power ...

Lord Stewart of Dirleton | 818 cc1947-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, and the noble Lord, Lord Rosser, for ...

Baroness Hamwee | 818 cc1948-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the impetus started a long time before the Williams review. It is quite some time since...

Baroness Henig | 818 c1949 (Link to this contribution)

Is Amendment 176 not moved? Would the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, like to move it?

Baroness Hamwee | 818 c1949 (Link to this contribution)

I would be delighted to move it and I apologise to the House.

Amendment 176

Baroness Hamwee | 818 c1949 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

176: Clause 78, page 81, line 24, at end insert—

“(1A)...

Baroness Hamwee | 818 c1949 (Link to this contribution)

As the noble Baroness, Lady McIntosh, is not here, I wanted to say that her point about consultat...

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick | 818 cc1949-1950 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendment 194A in my name and those of my noble friend Lord Dubs and...

Lord Rosser | 818 c1950 (Link to this contribution)

We indicated in the debate on the previous group our support for the need both for the Secretary ...

Lord Stewart of Dirleton | 818 cc1950-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Bill will not reduce the rights and protections in relation to modern slavery and t...

Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick | 818 c1951 (Link to this contribution)

That would be very satisfactory indeed. I think it might be helpful for us to have discussions wi...

Lord Stewart of Dirleton | 818 c1951 (Link to this contribution)

With that, I would simply invite the noble Baroness to withdraw her amendment at this stage.

Baroness Hamwee | 818 c1951 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I know that the lead amendment is Amendment 176, and I did not really speak to it, but ...

Lord Coaker | 818 cc1951-2 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Coaker

177: After Clause 78, insert the following new Clause—

“Af...

Lord Coaker | 818 c1952 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in this group I have the lead Amendment 177, which puts the Afghanistan citizens resett...

Baroness D'Souza | 818 cc1952-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the noble Lord, Lord Coaker, has said, my amendment falls within this grouping.

<...
Lord Kerr of Kinlochard | 818 cc1953-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would briefly like to support both amendments. There is an advantage in putting both ...

Baroness Smith of Newnham | 818 cc1954-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support both amendments. It is in some ways unfortunate that ARAP and ACRS have to be...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 818 cc1955-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I intervene briefly to support Amendment 193A in the name of my noble friend Lady D’Sou...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 818 cc1956-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in this debate. I agree with almost everything ...

Baroness Smith of Newnham | 818 c1957 (Link to this contribution)

My understanding of the ARAP scheme was that it was widened to some extent to allow those who may...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 818 cc1957-9 (Link to this contribution)

I think the noble Baroness probably meant 2021 rather than 2001, but it is late and we are not go...

Lord Coaker | 818 c1959 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Williams, for her reply. There is no doubt that the Government h...

Lord Coaker | 818 c1960 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Coaker

178: After Clause 78, insert the following new Clause—

“In...

Lord Coaker | 818 cc1960-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am sorry, but it is me again. I am the second signatory to this amendment. I spoke to...

Lord Craig of Radley | 818 cc1961-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have put my name to both these amendments. I shall speak to Amendment 185, in my name...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 818 c1962 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a great pleasure to support my noble and gallant friend. I feel as though I am pa...

Viscount Brookeborough | 818 cc1962-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support both these amendments but will speak more particularly to Amendment 178 than ...

Baroness Smith of Newnham | 818 cc1963-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there is something quite unusual about defence and Armed Forces matters. In some ways, ...

Lord Patten of Barnes | 818 c1964 (Link to this contribution)

I had not meant to intervene in this debate but, from listening to the remarks of the noble and g...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 818 cc1964-6 (Link to this contribution)

I very much thank all noble Lords for participating in this debate. In particular, I thank the no...

Viscount Brookeborough | 818 c1966 (Link to this contribution)

As I understand it, people are allowed to apply before they leave the services. While people are ...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 818 c1967 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Viscount raises an extremely important point, but that is a matter for the consultation...

Lord Coaker | 818 c1967 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for his response to a very moving debate. I particularly welcome the contrib...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 818 c1968 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Alton of Liverpool

179: After Clause 78, insert the following new Claus...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 818 cc1968-1971 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 179 stands in the names of the noble Lord, Lord Patten of Barnes, the noble a...

Lord Patten of Barnes | 818 cc1970-3 (Link to this contribution)

I will be very brief in supporting that speech and this amendment, not because I do not feel pass...

Baroness Smith of Newnham | 818 c1973 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving this amendment the noble Lord, Lord Alton, pointed out that it was supported ...

Lord Rosser | 818 cc1973-4 (Link to this contribution)

I will be brief. Not surprisingly, we wholeheartedly support this amendment, in the same way as w...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 818 cc1974-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, again, I thank all noble Lords who have participated in this debate, and I thank all no...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 818 c1976 (Link to this contribution)

If I could correct one thing, I may have said “a benefit to the Treasury”—I meant to the economy,...

Baroness Ludford | 818 c1976 (Link to this contribution)

I hope I am not being a bit of a cynic, but if the noble Lord intends that the Government respond...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 818 c1976 (Link to this contribution)

I hate to sound pedantic, but I said “by Report”, which probably does not clarify things very muc...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 818 c1976 (Link to this contribution)

I know the Minister would expect us to be prepared to do whatever is necessary on Report. However...

Lord Oates | 818 c1976 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Oates

180: After Clause 78, insert the following new Clause—

“UK ...

Lord Oates | 818 cc1977-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 180 in my name and those of the noble Baroness, Lady Bennett of Manor Castle,...

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