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Health and Care Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Wednesday, 9 February 2022, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage ninth day. Clauses 81 to 134, 149 to 154 agreed to, with clauses 87, 88, 92, 94, 111, 150, 152 and 153 agreed to as amended. Schedules 13 to 16 agreed to, with schedule 16 agreed to as amended. New clauses agreed to. New schedule agreed to. Bill reported with amendments. Bill, as amended, ordered to be printed (HL Bill 114). (Part 2 of 2).

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

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Session

2021-22

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber
Health and Care Bill 2021-22. Brought from the Commons.
Wednesday, 24 November 2021
Bills
House of Lords
Health and Care Bill
Wednesday, 9 February 2022
Parliamentary proceedings
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Health and Care Bill 2021-22. As amended in Committee.
Wednesday, 9 February 2022
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House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 818 c1710 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am a bit reluctant to get up again and say something, because when I did this yesterd...

Baroness Walmsley | 818 c1710 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Walmsley

295: After Clause 148, insert the following new Clause—


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Baroness Walmsley | 818 cc1710-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hope the Government Chief Whip will send the memo round.

Last Tuesday, my noble...

Baroness Merron | 818 c1711 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Walmsley, for presenting this amendment. I too take th...

Baroness Penn | 818 cc1711-3 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Walmsley, for bringing this short but important debate before th...

Baroness Walmsley | 818 c1713 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Merron, and the Minister for their responses to this proposition...

Earl of Kinnoull | 818 c1713 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in the next group of amendments, the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, will be participatin...

Baroness Nicholson of Winterbourne | 818 cc1713-4 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Nicholson of Winterbourne

297F: After Clause 148, insert the follow...

Baroness Nicholson of Winterbourne | 818 cc1714-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Blencathra, and I have grave concerns about the present single-sex...

Earl of Kinnoull | 818 c1717 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, is participating remotely, and I invite her to speak ...

Baroness Brinton | 818 cc1717-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak against Amendments 297F and 297G, spoken to just now by the noble Baroness...

Lord Sandhurst | 818 cc1718-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak in support of Amendment 297G. This will give much-needed statutory force to wha...

Lord Blencathra | 818 cc1719-1722 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendments in the names of my noble friend Lady Nicholson of Winterbourne...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 818 c1721 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to ask the Minister a brief question. The contention is that there is a tension ...

Lord Clement-Jones | 818 c1721 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, in his very reasonable request for the Minister to...

Lord Berkeley of Knighton | 818 c1723 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I always enjoy listening to the noble Lord, Lord Blencathra, because he has an absoluti...

Lord Lucas | 818 c1723 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I very much agree with the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, and others. I was here for 20 years d...

Baroness Barker | 818 cc1723-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, used the important word “contention”—a contention that there...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 818 c1724 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I intend to be brief because we do not believe that these two amendments are either nec...

Lord Kamall | 818 cc1724-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend Lord Blencathra for bringing this discussion before th...

Baroness Nicholson of Winterbourne | 818 cc1725-6 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister very much for his immensely helpful statement, while reminding him that the ...

Baroness Hollins | 818 cc1726-7 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hollins

297L: After Clause 148, insert the following new Clause—

Baroness Hollins | 818 cc1727-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 297L seeks to introduce mandatory training in learning disability and autism ...

Baroness Fookes | 818 c1729 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, is taking part remotely. I invite the noble Baroness ...

Baroness Brinton | 818 c1729 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am delighted to support Amendment 297L from the noble Baroness, Lady Hollins, which p...

Lord Warner | 818 cc1729-1730 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise briefly to speak in support of this amendment. I declare my interest as a vice-c...

Baroness Watkins of Tavistock | 818 c1730 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too support this amendment, which is absolutely in tune with reducing health inequali...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 818 c1730 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Hollins, for this amendment. Like others, I pay tribut...

Baroness Penn | 818 cc1730-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Hollins, for bringing the important matte...

Baroness Hollins | 818 cc1731-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords who have spoken in this short debate. I am disappointed that the Go...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 818 c1732 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath

308: After Clause 95, insert the following new Clau...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 818 cc1732-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I welcome the intention to make the Healthcare Safety Investigation Branch a statutory ...

Baroness Fookes | 818 c1733 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, is taking part remotely. I now invite the noble Baron...

Baroness Brinton | 818 c1734 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to first three amendments in this group, but I support the others.

T...

Baroness Young of Old Scone | 818 cc1734-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to our Amendments 310A, 311A, 312A and 319, and I thank the noble Lord, Lo...

Baroness Kramer | 818 cc1735-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is my only intervention on this Bill, and I will limit myself at this hour to spea...

Baroness Neuberger | 818 cc1738-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am also rather nervous. I spoke at Second Reading about how worried I was by the excl...

Baroness Young of Old Scone | 818 c1739 (Link to this contribution)

Will the noble Baroness admit that, in reality, the ombudsman has for many years undertaken that ...

Baroness Neuberger | 818 c1740 (Link to this contribution)

Of course I accept that, but I do not think it is right. Once the safe space exists and is part o...

Lord Etherton | 818 cc1740-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have added my name to Amendment 311 in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Neuberger...

Lord Patel | 818 cc1741-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will try to be brief, and to cover the points about the exercise of a patient safety ...

Baroness Parminter | 818 cc1743-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will be brief. I am not a medical expert, as many are in this Chamber, but I have see...

Lord Kakkar | 818 cc1744-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the intervention by my noble friend Lord Patel. In so doing, I declare my own...

Baroness Walmsley | 818 cc1745-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, from these Benches we welcome the fact that the HSSIB is to be put on a mandatory footi...

Baroness Merron | 818 cc1746-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a very detailed debate and has explored what is at the heart of the subje...

Baroness Penn | 818 cc1747-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords for this debate and reassure them not only that I have listened...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 818 c1749 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to the Minister—she was succinct but we certainly got the drift of t...

Lord Kamall | 818 c1750 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Kamall

312: Clause 111, page 98, line 19, leave out from “provision” to...

Lord Kamall | 818 cc1751-4 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Kamall

312B: Before Clause 81, insert the following new Clause—

“...

Earl of Kinnoull | 818 c1754 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in this next group, the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, is participating remotely.

...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 818 c1754 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath

298: Clause 81, page 71, leave out lines 34 to 37

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 818 cc1754-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we come to a debate on confidentiality of patient data. We debated some of this last we...

Lord Clement-Jones | 818 c1756 (Link to this contribution)

Sorry, my Lords—I assumed that my noble friend Lady Brinton was going to speak next.

Earl of Kinnoull | 818 c1756 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you very much for reminding me. I am frightfully sorry. I invite the noble Baroness to make...

Baroness Brinton | 818 cc1756-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, for outlining the amendments in this group,...

Lord Davies of Brixton | 818 c1757 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to speak to this group of amendments—

Baroness Penn | 818 c1757 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it might be appropriate for the mover of one of the amendments in the group to speak.

Lord Clement-Jones | 818 cc1757-9 (Link to this contribution)

I was not being discourteous, but I thank the Minister. We just go along the line of amendments.<...

Baroness Tyler of Enfield | 818 cc1759-1760 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendment 307 in my name. I am very grateful to the noble Baroness, ...

Lord Warner | 818 cc1760-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have added my name to Amendment 307, introduced so ably by the noble Baroness, Lady T...

Lord Davies of Brixton | 818 cc1761-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise to the House and the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, in particular; but hav...

Lord Scriven | 818 cc1762-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would also like to speak quickly on these amendments. The last suite of amendments wa...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 818 cc1763-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will respond to the debate, but my comments apply equally to the next group, so I hop...

Lord Kamall | 818 cc1764-6 (Link to this contribution)

Let me assure the noble Baroness that I was not trying to opt out of my duty to respond.

I ...

Lord Warner | 818 c1767 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt the Minister at this time of night, but I think he has no idea how many M...

Lord Kamall | 818 c1767 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord, first for his earlier confidence in my abilities and now for questioning ...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 818 cc1767-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to the Minister. I am conscious of what my noble friend Lord Davies ...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 818 c1769 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering

306A: Clause 87, page 80, line 19, at end ins...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 818 cc1769-1770 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support and welcome Clause 87 on medicine information systems. My amendments would si...

Lord Clement-Jones | 818 cc1770-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise very briefly to speak to this amendment. I have considerable doubts about it. In...

Lord Kamall | 818 cc1771-2 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady McIntosh, for bringing this discussion before the Commi...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 818 cc1772-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend the Minister and the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, f...

Lord Kamall | 818 c1773 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Kamall

306AA: Clause 87, page 80, line 40, at end insert—

“(b) pr...

Lord Clement-Jones | 818 c1773 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Clement-Jones

227: Clause 88, page 83, line 6, leave out paragraph (b)<...

Lord Clement-Jones | 818 cc1773-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is regrettable that we are dealing with the very important Clauses 88 and 89 at this...

Lord Patel | 818 cc1774-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to my Amendments 229 and 230. I thank the noble Lord, Lord Hunt of Kings ...

Lord Warner | 818 cc1775-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, after consultation with the clerks and for the convenience of the Committee, I have mov...

Baroness Walmsley | 818 c1777 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I added my name to Amendments 229 and 230 from the noble Lord, Lord Patel, to limit the...

Baroness Merron | 818 cc1777-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is a mixed group of amendments and it has been extremely helpful to hear from nobl...

Lord Kamall | 818 cc1779-1781 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as many other noble Lords have said, this group contains a range of amendments in relat...

Lord Clement-Jones | 818 c1780 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Minister will probably get the “Just a Minute” prize for the evening. I will not tr...

Lord Kamall | 818 c1782 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Kamall

227A: Clause 88, page 83, line 10, at end insert—

“Special...

Baroness Merron | 818 c1782 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Part 3 of the Bill has seven clauses: Clauses 88 to 94. This group of amendments seeks ...

Baroness Walmsley | 818 c1783 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the 2012 Act removed certain powers from the Secretary of State, and Jeremy Hunt, the f...

Lord Kamall | 818 cc1783-4 (Link to this contribution)

I thank both noble Baronesses for bringing this debate before the Committee. The proposal is to r...

Baroness Merron | 818 c1784 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for his reply and the reference to parliamentary scrutiny. He will know that...

Lord Kamall | 818 c1785 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Kamall

231A: Clause 92, page 87, line 4, leave out paragraphs (c) to (e...

Lord Kamall | 818 cc1785-6 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Kamall

231C: Clause 94, page 88, line 2, leave out subsection (1) and i...

Baroness Penn | 818 c1786 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Penn

231H: After Clause 133, insert the following new Clause—

Baroness Penn | 818 cc1787-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to hopefully conclude this Committee stage of the Bill with some gover...

Earl of Kinnoull | 818 c1788 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, is participating remotely and I call her to speak.

Baroness Brinton | 818 c1788 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to speak very briefly to thank the Ministers for listening to the noble Baroness...

Baroness Sugg | 818 cc1788-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I originally had an amendment down to criminalise hymenoplasty in this Bill, but I have...

Lord Patel | 818 c1789 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise very briefly to thank in particular the noble Baroness, Lady Sugg, for so tenaci...

Baroness Barker | 818 c1789 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, very briefly in view of the early hour, I wish to join others in welcoming this amendme...

Baroness Merron | 818 cc1789-1790 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very glad that the Government have heeded the calls of victims and experts alike t...

Baroness Penn | 818 c1790 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords for the short but constructive debate on these amendments. I add my...

Baroness Penn | 818 cc1790-5 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Penn

231J: After Clause 133, insert the following new Clause—

Lord Kamall | 818 cc1795-7 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Kamall

313ZA: Schedule 16, page 233, line 2, leave out “(123 or 124” an...

Lord Kamall | 818 cc1797-1806 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Kamall

313A: After Schedule 16, insert the following new Schedule—

<...
Lord Kamall | 818 c1806 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Kamall

313B: Clause 150, page 128, line 13, at end insert—

“(1A) ...

Lord Kamall | 818 c1806 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Kamall

314ZB: Clause 152, page 128, line 37, at end insert—

“(aa)...

Lord Kamall | 818 c1808 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Kamall

315A: Clause 153, page 129, line 8, at end insert—

“(2A) S...

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 818 c1808 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, just before we finish, I say on behalf of us all a big thank you to the clerks, the doo...

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