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Health and Care Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Friday, 4 February 2022, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage eighth day. Clauses 141 to 148 agreed to. New clause agreed to. Schedule 17, as amended, agreed to.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

818 cc1154-1278 

Session

2021-22

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber

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Proceeding contributions

Lord Ashton of Hyde | 818 cc1154-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before we commence proceedings on the Bill, I will outline the plan for today. We will ...

Lord McFall of Alcluith | 818 c1155 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before calling the first amendment, I indicate that the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, w...


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Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 818 c1155 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle (GP)

237: Clause 141, page 119, line 17, at...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 818 cc1155-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will also speak to Amendments 238 and 239 in my name. Predatory and rent-seeking fina...

Lord McFall of Alcluith | 818 c1157 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Brinton, is taking part remotely. I invite her to speak.

Baroness Brinton | 818 cc1157-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendments 237, 238 and 239 in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Bennett o...

Baroness Tyler of Enfield | 818 c1158 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support these amendments from the noble Baroness, Lady Bennett. I thank her for putti...

Baroness Altmann | 818 cc1158-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the thrust of the amendments laid by the noble Baroness, Lady Bennett. I full...

Lord Blunkett | 818 c1159 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will take to heart the strictures of the Government Chief Whip and see whether I can ...

Baroness Thornton | 818 c1160 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend Lord Blunkett for speaking very briefly and giving us some very wise word...

Earl Howe | 818 cc1160-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I appreciate the way that the noble Baroness, Lady Bennett, introduced these three amen...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 818 cc1162-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his courteous and comprehensive response, which was very usefu...

Baroness Thornton | 818 cc1164-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Clause 142 seeks to amend Section 50 of the Health Act 1999 in relation to making chang...

Baroness Pitkeathley | 818 cc1165-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare an interest as a former chair of the Professional Standards Authority. I was ...

Lord Young of Cookham | 818 c1166 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Clause 142, which comes under the heading “Professional regulation”, deals with the reg...

Lord Bethell | 818 c1166 (Link to this contribution)

I will also speak briefly in support of the register for social care workers, and I very much ech...

Baroness Walmsley | 818 cc1167-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, last week, when we debated the call for a separate list of properly qualified cosmetic ...

Lord Kamall | 818 cc1168-9 (Link to this contribution)

I thank all noble Lords who spoke in this debate. As a number of noble Lords have acknowledged, t...

Baroness Thornton | 818 c1169 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister, but that was not a satisfactory response, I am afraid. The only w...

Lord Kamall | 818 cc1169-1170 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Kamall

243A: After Clause 143, insert the following new Clause—

“...

Lord Kamall | 818 c1170 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving this amendment I will also speak to the Amendments 313A, 314A and 315A standi...

Baroness Deech | 818 cc1170-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 280 stands in my name and that of the noble Baroness, Lady Barker. I declare ...

Baroness Barker | 818 cc1171-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it has been a great privilege to work alongside the noble Baroness, Lady Deech, and I c...

Baroness Altmann | 818 c1172 (Link to this contribution)

It is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Barker, and I too commend the noble Baroness,...

Baroness Thornton | 818 c1172 (Link to this contribution)

When the Minister and I were discussing government amendments, on this issue I said: “If Baroness...

Lord Kamall | 818 c1172 (Link to this contribution)

I can confirm that that conversation did take place. When we were dividing up the groups for toda...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 818 c1172 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff

244: Clause 144, page 123, line 39, at end inser...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 818 c1173 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is a very broad group. As part of the Government’s obesity strategy, Clause 144 an...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 818 c1173 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Howarth of Newport, should be taking part remotely. If the noble

Baroness Boycott | 818 cc1174-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare my interests—there are a lot of them in terms of food, but this is for a spec...

Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 818 cc1175-1180 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendments in my name and I may also comment on some of the amendments th...

Lord Moylan | 818 cc1180-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow my noble friend Lord Vaizey of Didcot. Might I say, be...

Lord Clement-Jones | 818 cc1182-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak to a number of amendments in this important group focused on the Govern...

Lord Krebs | 818 cc1186-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, on the one hand, I am strongly in favour of the government proposals in Schedule 17 to ...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 818 cc1187-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am delighted to follow the noble Lord, Lord Krebs, and pay tribute to the work he has...

Viscount Colville of Culross | 818 cc1189-1191 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare an interest as a freelance television producer. I speak in support of Amendme...

Lord Bethell | 818 cc1191-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Schedule 17 generally and in support of Amendment 244 in the name of th...

Lord Stevens of Birmingham | 818 cc1193-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps channelling the noble Baroness, Lady Deech, from this morning, I congratulate t...

Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 818 c1194 (Link to this contribution)

Given the noble Lord’s extraordinary expertise, having worked all over the world, does he know an...

Lord Stevens of Birmingham | 818 cc1194-5 (Link to this contribution)

As the noble Lord will know, the genuine problem that we have in this country is that unfortunate...

Lord Black of Brentwood | 818 cc1195-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 245, tabled by my noble friend Lord Vaizey, and to others in ...

Lord Grade of Yarmouth | 818 c1196 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak in support of my noble friend Lord Vaizey’s amendments. He said all I could pos...

Baroness Boycott | 818 c1198 (Link to this contribution)

I never said—and other noble Lords who oppose these amendments never said—that the single act of ...

Lord Grade of Yarmouth | 818 c1198 (Link to this contribution)

I will continue. Successive Governments throughout my too many years in the media, faced with int...

Lord Lansley | 818 cc1198-1200 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am pleased to follow my noble friend Lord Grade. The point he made relates to my own ...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 818 c1199 (Link to this contribution)

Will the noble Lord clarify some of his statement about young people? We know that there are spec...

Lord Lansley | 818 c1199 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness is drawing me into what is a very important debate, but I do not think it is t...

Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 818 cc1199-1201 (Link to this contribution)

I will be very brief. I declare my chairmanship of the Communications and Digital Committee. A lo...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 818 cc1201-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I feel the need to balance the sides of this debate. I attached my name to Amendment 24...

Lord Naseby | 818 cc1202-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise to the House that I did not take part in the Second Reading debate; I am af...

Lord Moynihan | 818 cc1203-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the great Nicholas Parsons, who is the Chief Whip’s go-to source of quotations for toda...

Baroness Grey-Thompson | 818 cc1205-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I draw your Lordships’ attention to my declaration of interests: I am chair of ukactive...

Lord Willis of Knaresborough | 818 cc1207-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I first apologise for not being present at Second Reading. It is unusual for me not to ...

Baroness Walmsley | 818 cc1209-1213 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I regret that I cannot follow the edict of that late, great Liberal Democrat, Nicholas ...

Baroness Merron | 818 cc1213-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, today we have had a very extensive and impassioned debate, and we have heard in your Lo...

Baroness Penn | 818 cc1215-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been an important and engaging debate. There has been consensus that childhood...

Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 818 c1216 (Link to this contribution)

I am so sorry to interrupt my noble friend, but can she please give us a timescale for that?

Baroness Penn | 818 cc1216-8 (Link to this contribution)

I believe it is being conducted this year, but I will check that and come back to my noble friend...

Lord Grade of Yarmouth | 818 c1218 (Link to this contribution)

Before my noble friend sits down, can she give the House some sense of what the Government would ...

Baroness Penn | 818 cc1218-9 (Link to this contribution)

I believe that I said that the criteria for measuring the success of this policy have been set ou...

Lord Lansley | 818 c1219 (Link to this contribution)

Before my noble friend sits down, can I ask her about the nutrient profiling technical guidance? ...

Baroness Penn | 818 c1219 (Link to this contribution)

My noble friend was of course eagle-eared—I am mixing a metaphor—in that I did not address his po...

Lord Clement-Jones | 818 c1219 (Link to this contribution)

I want to follow up on that question. It was in 2018 that the consultation took place; is the Min...

Baroness Penn | 818 c1219 (Link to this contribution)

The date that I have for the commissioning of the work is 2016, which means that we are even furt...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 818 c1219 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we are three hours and 49 amendments on and I am sure that everyone in the House will j...

Baroness Penn | 818 c1220 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Penn

246: Schedule 17, page 234, line 23, at end insert—

“(1A...

Baroness Penn | 818 c1220 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Penn

249: Schedule 17, page 235, line 18, at end insert—

“(4A...

Baroness Penn | 818 c1220 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Penn

250: Schedule 17, page 235, line 30, leave out from beginning ...

Baroness Penn | 818 cc1220-1 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Penn

252: Schedule 17, page 236, line 16, at end insert—

“(5A...

Baroness Penn | 818 c1221 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Penn

253: Schedule 17, page 236, line 32, at beginning insert “From...

Baroness Penn | 818 c1221 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Penn

254: Schedule 17, page 237, line 38, at end insert—

“(6A...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 818 c1222 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff

259: Clause 146, page 124, line 42, at end inser...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 818 cc1222-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, these amendments also relate to alcohol. Amendment 259 is about alcohol labelling to pr...

Lord Scriven | 818 cc1223-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to support Amendments 259 and 296 in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay...

Baroness Walmsley | 818 c1224 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have been in this House for 22 years and I have been asking for this for at least 20 ...

Lord Sentamu | 818 c1224 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support this amendment. I will tell a true story of a teetotal preacher who harangued...

Baroness Merron | 818 c1225 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble and right reverend Lord, who reminds us of our obl...

Earl Howe | 818 cc1225-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I pay tribute to the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay, for her work as chair of the Commissi...

Lord Sentamu | 818 c1226 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to disturb the Minister in mid-flow. He described this amendment as prescriptive. Seat...

Earl Howe | 818 c1226 (Link to this contribution)

The noble and right reverend Lord makes an extremely cogent set of points. I criticised Amendment...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 818 c1226 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to the Minister, and particularly to the noble and right reverend Lord, Lord S...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 818 c1228 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath

265: After Clause 148, insert the following new Cla...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 818 cc1228-1230 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 265 I will also speak to Amendment 282. I am glad to have the suppo...

Lord Ribeiro | 818 cc1229-1231 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise for not speaking in the Second Reading debate, for reasons of ill health.

Baroness Northover | 818 cc1231-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, has introduced Amendments 265 and 282 on this appalling subj...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 818 cc1232-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am raising my voice to speak in favour of Amendments 265 and 282. Following the noble...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 818 cc1235-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I declare my interest as an elected member of the BMA ethics committee, which looked at...

Lord Cormack | 818 c1237 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise for missing the first minute—but it was only the first minute—of the splend...

Earl Howe | 818 c1237 (Link to this contribution)

I hope that my noble friend will forgive me but, as he was not here at the beginning of the debat...

Lord Cormack | 818 c1237 (Link to this contribution)

Well, I certainly was going to make my remarks brief, and I am sorry that I was detained for one ...

Lord Sentamu | 818 cc1237-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I also stand to support Amendments 265 and 282. I am grateful to the noble Lords, Lord ...

Baroness Thornton | 818 c1238 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, can I say how much I agree with my noble friend Lord Hunt, the noble Baroness, Lady Nor...

Earl Howe | 818 cc1238-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I begin by thanking the noble Lord, Lord Hunt of Kings Heath, and many other noble Lord...

Lord Ribeiro | 818 c1239 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, would it be possible to collect data to substantiate what my noble friend has said abou...

Earl Howe | 818 c1239 (Link to this contribution)

I expect it is possible to capture some data but, of course, there will always be cases of people...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 818 c1240 (Link to this contribution)

I will follow the noble Lord’s point. Even though it may be impossible to collect credible data o...

Earl Howe | 818 c1240 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord makes a very good point and, if I may, I will investigate the feasibility of doing...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 818 c1240 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister undertake that the Government ask the Scottish Government about their experienc...

Earl Howe | 818 c1241 (Link to this contribution)

I noted that the amendment tabled by the noble Baroness is closely modelled on the current law in...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 818 cc1241-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it has been a very good debate. First, I say to the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay, that I...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 818 c1242 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath

267: After Clause 148, insert the following new Cla...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 818 cc1242-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will also speak to Amendment 268. I indicate in advance my support for Amendment 288 ...

Baroness Cumberlege | 818 cc1244-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have Amendment 288 in this group. I thank the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, for the way that...

Baroness Hodgson of Abinger | 818 c1248 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 268, to which I have added my name, and thank the noble Lord, Lord ...

Baroness Walmsley | 818 c1249 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I certainly support these three amendments so ably introduced by the noble Lord, Lord H...

Baroness Wheeler | 818 cc1249-1250 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is an important group and there is little to add to the expert contributions on th...

Earl Howe | 818 cc1250-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been an important and moving debate. We should recognise that, behind the tech...

Baroness Cumberlege | 818 c1253 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I very much welcome my noble friend’s response. Of course he is right: we must always l...

Earl Howe | 818 c1253 (Link to this contribution)

I appreciate of course my noble friend’s remarks, and I undertake to bring them to the attention ...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 818 cc1253-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a very good debate, again, and I am grateful to the noble Earl, Lord Howe...

Earl Howe | 818 c1254 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rather wish it were my noble friend Lord Kamall handling this group because he is the...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 818 c1254 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I know how generous the noble Lord, Lord Kamall, has been with his time. I can but hope...

Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 818 c1254 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Faulkner of Worcester

270: After Clause 148, insert the following new C...

Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 818 cc1255-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I move Amendment 270, and add my support to Amendments 271 to 279 in this group. I have...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 818 c1256 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Baroness, Lady Masham of Ilton, is taking part remotely and I invite her to s...

Baroness Masham of Ilton | 818 cc1256-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support all these amendments but will speak to Amendments 276 and 277, to which my na...

Lord Young of Cookham | 818 cc1257-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Masham, who spoke in favour of Amen...

Baroness Northover | 818 cc1259-1260 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have put my name to Amendment 270, which requires the Government to consult on raisin...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 818 cc1260-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Northover, because I would li...

Lord Naseby | 818 cc1261-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have never smoked and I have no wish to smoke, but I am a marketing man by profession...

Lord Rennard | 818 cc1262-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, for decades, all the various weak arguments associated with the tobacco industry, oppos...

Lord Moylan | 818 cc1264-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am aware that, in your Lordships’ House, any lack of zeal for persecuting smokers mar...

Lord Crisp | 818 cc1265-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I imagine that your Lordships’ House and Parliament generally very often have a choice ...

Baroness Merron | 818 cc1266-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been an interesting debate, and we have heard various views. I thank my noble ...

Earl Howe | 818 cc1267-1270 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Faulkner, and other noble Lords for bringing this...

Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 818 c1268 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it has been a fascinating debate, which has taken a little over an hour. I thank all no...

Baroness Cumberlege | 818 c1271 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Cumberlege

283: After Clause 148, insert the following new Clause—<...

Baroness Cumberlege | 818 cc1271-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am delighted that the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay, is supporting me. She is a clinici...

Baroness Brinton | 818 c1273 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the noble Baroness, Lady Cumberlege, in her Amendment 283, which would includ...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 818 cc1273-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was—it is fair to say—flattered when the noble Baroness, Lady Cumberlege, asked me to...

Baroness Neuberger | 818 cc1274-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 283 in the names of the noble Baroness, Lady Cumberlege, and my nob...

Baroness Thornton | 818 c1275 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I can only add to the last remark of the noble Baroness that this does need to happen. ...

Baroness Penn | 818 c1276 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to all the noble Baronesses who have spoken in this group, and in particu...

Baroness Cumberlege | 818 cc1276-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank so much the noble Lords who have supported this amendment. I always welcome the...

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