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Nationality and Borders Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Thursday, 27 January 2022, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage first day. Clauses 1 to 4 agreed to. (Part 1 of 2).

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Reference

818 cc450-474 

Session

2021-22

Department

Home Office

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Committee stage

Procedure

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Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber
Legislative scrutiny: Nationality and Borders Bill (Part 1) - nationality. Joint Committee on Human Rights seventh report.
Wednesday, 3 November 2021
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
House of Commons
Legislative scrutiny: Nationality and Borders Bill (Part 3) - Immigration offences and enforcement. Joint Committee on Human Rights ninth report.
Wednesday, 24 November 2021
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
House of Commons
Nationality and Borders Bill 2021-22. Brought from the Commons.
Thursday, 9 December 2021
Bills
House of Lords
Nationality and Borders Bill. Constitution Committee (HL) eleventh report.
Wednesday, 19 January 2022
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords

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Proceeding contributions

Baroness Hamwee | 818 c450 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

1: Clause 1, page 2, line 10, leave out “equally” and insert...

Baroness Hamwee | 818 cc451-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 1 is grouped with Amendments 2, 8, 9, 10, 12, 17 and 21. Amendment 9 is in th...


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Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 818 c452 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak briefly in support of Amendments 8 and 9 about good character. Like the no...

Lord Dubs | 818 cc452-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as we have heard, the Joint Committee on Human Rights spent quite a lot of time conside...

Lord Paddick | 818 c453 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend Lady Hamwee has comprehensively explained the reasons for these amendme...

Baroness Ludford | 818 cc453-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I just second what everyone else has said, in particular the noble Lord, Lord Dubs, who...

Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle | 818 c454 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, briefly, I offer Green group support for these amendments. The noble Lord, Lord Paddick...

Lord Rosser | 818 cc454-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we strongly welcome Clause 1 and, as the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, said, in a Bill w...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 818 cc455-7 (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords, and I am sorry to disappoint the noble Lord, Lord Rosser..

I thank the...

Baroness Ludford | 818 c456 (Link to this contribution)

Can the noble Lord address the point that I made, which I think was in the JCHR report? The court...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 818 c456 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness for her request for clarification. Guidance is clear that a criminal r...

Baroness Hamwee | 818 c456 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there is clearly concern about good character. I echo my noble friend’s query; the poin...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 818 c458 (Link to this contribution)

I did not mean to imply that the noble Baroness was saying that. I apologise for intervening on t...

Baroness Hamwee | 818 c458 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you. That is good to know.

I come back to the registration point that we are dealing ...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 818 c458 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering

3: Clause 1, page 2, line 46, at end insert—<...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 818 cc458-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is the first time I have spoken on the Bill, as I was unable to speak at Second Re...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 818 cc459-461 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendment 13 in my name. I thank the noble Lord, Lord Alton of Liverpo...

Bishop of Gloucester | 818 cc461-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak on Amendment 13 on behalf of my noble friend the right reverend Prelate th...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 818 cc462-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is great pleasure to be one of the terriers of the noble Baroness, Lady Lister, and ...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 818 c464 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I briefly pay tribute to my noble friend Lady Lister of Burtersett for her campaigning ...

Lord Horam | 818 c465 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there is obviously strong feeling on this issue across the House. I congratulate the no...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 818 c465 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord for his support of the principle, but is he suggesting that the Home Offic...

Lord Horam | 818 c465 (Link to this contribution)

I appreciate that perhaps “manipulate” was the wrong word. I simply meant that events and costs c...

Baroness Chakrabarti | 818 c465 (Link to this contribution)

Forgive me, but is the noble Lord agreeing with me that, in relation to citizenship rights that t...

Lord Horam | 818 c465 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry, but I did not quite follow the noble Baroness’s point.

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 818 c465 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I can clarify. We all agree that we should know what the figure is. We are also seeking c...

Lord Paddick | 818 c466 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I say to the noble Lord, Lord Horam, that there is no suggestion of putting a figure in...

Lord Horam | 818 c466 (Link to this contribution)

You may not have a number, but costs can change from year to year; that is the point.

Lord Paddick | 818 c466 (Link to this contribution)

Absolutely, and I understand that that might be the case, but that is not the essence of either o...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 818 c466 (Link to this contribution)

I take this opportunity to clarify what is says: it says that no person may be charged a fee that...

Lord Paddick | 818 cc466-7 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful for that important clarification. The cost price is the maximum that should be...

Lord Rosser | 818 cc467-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I express our support for the amendments in this group. The amendments in the name of t...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 818 cc468-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Lister of Burtersett, the right reverend Prel...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 818 c469 (Link to this contribution)

Does the Minister accept that there is a difference between leave to remain and citizenship? We a...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 818 c469 (Link to this contribution)

Of course I accept the distinction. There is no arguing about that at all.

The noble Barone...

Baroness Hamwee | 818 c469 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise to the noble Lord. On the previous point about regulations for fees, the amendment of...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 818 c470 (Link to this contribution)

If we were to remove or amend fees during the passage of this Bill—I have said this before—it wou...

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 818 c470 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister clarify what he just said? The existing legal framework has itself been undermi...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 818 c470 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that it is a lot of money is not in dispute. I am coming to the part that deals with th...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 818 c470 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord acknowledges that leave to remain is not the same as citizenship. When we last dis...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 818 cc470-1 (Link to this contribution)

I assure the noble Baroness that I am not going to try it again today.

Proposed new subsect...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 818 c471 (Link to this contribution)

I am very sorry to interrupt yet again, but I pointed out that the appeal that has gone to the Su...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 818 c471 (Link to this contribution)

I was just coming to that.

The Government are currently carrying out a Section 55 assessmen...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 818 c471 (Link to this contribution)

I cannot answer that, I am sorry. I will write on that.

Lord Alton of Liverpool | 818 c471 (Link to this contribution)

I promise not to intervene again, but before the noble Lord leaves this point, is he not inviting...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 818 c471 (Link to this contribution)

With the greatest respect to the noble Lord, they are all part of the same debate. As I said, I c...

Lord Deben | 818 c472 (Link to this contribution)

When the court has said that this is illegal, why do the Government not accept what the court has...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 818 c472 (Link to this contribution)

Again, with respect to the noble Lord, we are awaiting the further judgment.

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 818 c472 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry, but the lawyers behind this are very clear that these are completely separate legal p...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 818 c472 (Link to this contribution)

As I said, I do not have the answer to why it has taken a year, but I will write to the noble Bar...

Lord Paddick | 818 c472 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, we do not address each other as “you”. I know that the Minister is new to the Ho...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 818 c472 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord said something about how the system relies on these fees. Could he clarify what he...

Lord Sharpe of Epsom | 818 c472 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for my inadvertent use of the word “you”. I feel suitably admonished. My apologies. T...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 818 c473 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry, but that is irrelevant, because this is not about immigration. It is about the right ...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 818 c473 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank everybody who contributed to this debate. I thank my noble friend for his court...

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 818 c474 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I probably should have consulted my absolutely authentic book of words, but I believe i...

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