Counter-Terrorism and Sentencing Bill

My Lords, I make a short intervention to support the amendment so ably moved by the noble Lord, L...

My Lords, as my noble friend Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames has outlined, our Amendment 16 in thi...

My Lords, we have had a wide-ranging introduction to this group from both the noble Lords, Lord M...

My Lords, Amendment 16 would introduce a new clause requiring the Secretary of State to arrange f...

My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken and to the Minister for his detailed r...

Moved by

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar

17: Clause 32, page 28, line 30, leave out paragrap...

We now come to the group beginning with Amendment 19. I remind noble Lords that anyone wishing to...

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

19: Clause 32, page 29, line 18, at end insert—

“(4) I...

My Lords, I appreciate that the Committee dealt with some clauses regarding polygraphs on the pre...

My Lords, I regard this group and the next as essentially probing the Government on the use of po...

My Lords, may I say how much I agree with the noble Lord, Lord Faulks, in his warning against equ...

My Lords, as my noble friend Lady Hamwee and others have explained, Clause 32 puts the imposition...

It is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Marks of Henley-on-Thames. He has covered much of...

My Lords, in responding to the amendment and the various points put to me, I will bear in mind an...

My Lords, I have received a request from the noble Lord, Lord Robathan, to speak after the Minist...

My Lords, I apologise for not adding my name, which I put down to speak but not on a particular g...

My Lords, I am grateful for the question put to me by my noble friend. As I said, that is precise...

My Lords, at the briefing by the MoJ, I was one of those who volunteered—at some point when we ar...

We now come to the group consisting of Amendment 20. I remind noble Lords that anyone wishing to ...

Moved by

Lord Falconer of Thoroton

20: After Clause 35, insert the following new Clau...

This amendment proposes that the Secretary of State, within six months of the Bill being passed, ...

My Lords, the questions that have been asked are important. We cannot assume that the rules that ...

My Lords, it has been a privilege to listen to the speeches this afternoon. I have benefited very...

My Lords, I was very happy with the Minister’s reply when he said that a significant response—not...

My Lords, I support this amendment in the name of my noble and learned friend Lord Falconer, who ...

My Lords, I wish either that this group had been grouped with the previous group or that I had sp...

My Lords, on the face of it the purpose of this amendment, tabled by the noble and learned Lord, ...

Noble Lords may be pleased to know that we have had no requests to speak after the Minister, so I...

I am grateful to everybody who has participated in the debate, particularly the noble Baroness, L...

Moved by

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar

21: Schedule 11, page 93, leave out lines 28 to 32<...

We now come to the group beginning with Amendment 27. I remind noble Lords that anyone wishing to...

Moved by

Lord Anderson of Ipswich

27: Clause 37, page 34, line 35, leave out from “su...

My Lords, TPIMs, or terrorism prevention and investigation measures, are the successors to, and r...

My Lords, given the experience of those who have put their names to the amendments in this group,...

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Anderson of Ipswich, spoke with such eloquence in making all the p...

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Anderson, has given your Lordships a very clear and succinct histo...

My Lords, I draw the Committee’s attention to my interest in criminal justice matters, specifical...

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the right reverend Prelate, particularly because he and I ar...

My Lords, I am delighted to follow the noble Lord, Lord Strasburger. Like him, I have some diffic...

My Lords, as my noble friend Lady Hamwee has explained, we wish to see the current arrangements f...

I am delighted to follow the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, as ever. I am sorry that he did not have t...

My Lords, I thank noble Lords who have tabled and introduced their amendments and all the noble L...

I have received one request to speak after the Minister and I call the noble Lord, Lord Paddick.<...

I am grateful to the Minister for his explanation but I am somewhat confused. He cites the eviden...

My Lords, there were a number of questions in the noble Lord’s intervention there. I certainly en...

I am grateful to the Minister for his courteous response. I do not think I ever had the pleasure ...

We now come to the group beginning with Amendment 29. I remind noble Lords that anyone wishing to...

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

29: Clause 38, page 35, line 2, at end insert—

“(za) i...

My Lords, we have Amendment 29 in this group, and we oppose Clause 38 standing part of the Bill. ...

My Lords, I will speak in this group to Amendment 30, which I have signed, together with my noble...

The noble Baroness, Lady McIntosh of Pickering, has withdrawn from this group, so I call the next...

I want to add only one point to what the noble Lord, Lord Anderson of Ipswich, has just said, bec...

My Lords, I wish to argue that Clause 38 should not stand part of the Bill. In my contribution on...

My Lords, as I said on the previous group, we wish the current arrangements for terrorism prevent...

I am relatively new to these debates, but I remember making the point at Second Reading about the...

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in the debate on this group. Amendment 29, in t...

My Lords, I have received a request to speak after the Minister from the noble Lord, Lord Paddick...

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister. I have two questions. First, he spoke about Section 9 he...

I will take the questions in reverse order. Prosecution is always the preferred method of disrupt...

My Lords, I hope that noble Lords will forgive me if, in the interests of time, I do not comment ...

Only to disappoint the noble Baroness, but also to reassure her that I will add that to the infor...

I am grateful for that. We are in Committee, so it is appropriate that I beg leave to withdraw th...

We now come to the group beginning with Amendment 30A. I notify noble Lords that at the end of th...

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

30A: Clause 39, page 35, leave out lines 39 to 41

Memb...

My Lords, this takes us to the issue of location and relocation. It was probably very naive of me...

My Lords, as my noble friend Lady Hamwee said, requiring a TPIM subject to relocate can have sign...

This amendment does not address head-on the power under a TPIM to require somebody to relocate. T...

My Lords, as the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, and the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, have explained, t...

My Lords, I shall of course withdraw Amendment 30A and I shall not move Amendment 30B. The questi...

We now come to the group beginning with the Question that Clause 40 stand part of the Bill. I rem...

My Lords, Clause 40 stand part is grouped with Amendment 31 in the names of the noble Lords, Lord...

My Lords, rather like the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, I am not sure that our two amendments have...

My Lords, I have just a little to add to what has already been said about Clause 40.

The cu...

My Lords, I declare my interest as the elected and serving police and crime commissioner for Leic...

My Lords, as we have heard, Clause 40 will allow the Secretary of State to extend the overnight c...

My Lords, at the risk of sounding like a broken record, we believe that the existing TPIMs are su...

My Lords, we have had two different debates in this group. The noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, moved...

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in this debate. As some have remarked, Amendmen...

I have received one request to speak after the Minister, so I call the noble Lord, Lord Paddick.<...

My Lords, unfortunately, the imperfection of the current system of remote participation means tha...

I now call the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, to respond to the debate.

I am in much the same position as I was with an earlier amendment: I do not see what is not alrea...

We now come to the group beginning with Amendment 30C. I remind noble Lords that anyone wishing t...

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

30C: Clause 41, page 37, line 10, after “necessary” insert “...

My Lords, we have Amendments 30C and 30D in this group, as well as the clause stand part debate. ...

The noble Baroness, Lady McIntosh of Pickering, has withdrawn from this group, so I call the next...

My Lords, I do not have anything to add on the substance of the amendments which my noble friend ...

My Lords, I have nothing of substance to add to the comments of the previous two speakers, the no...

My Lords, I thank noble Lords for their contributions and brevity in this group so that we can ma...

My Lords, I may have missed it, but I am not sure that the noble Lord answered the point about th...

I apologise. I did not do so, but if the noble Baroness is happy, I will write to her and follow ...

Equally, of course, we will go through the Official Report to see whether all our concerns have b...

We now come to the group consisting of Amendment 30E. I remind noble Lords that anyone wishing to...

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

30E: Clause 42, page 38, line 22, at beginning insert “If th...

My Lords, I think that, on the last grouping, the question which lay behind this amendment was an...

My Lords, our Amendment 30E relates to subjecting the subject of a TPIM to drug testing for class...

My Lords, I have nothing to add to the points made by the previous two speakers.

My Lords, through Clause 42 we are adding a new measure to the list of available measures in Sche...

My Lords, one might expect the Home Secretary asked to approve the measure to respond by asking t...

We now come to the group consisting of Amendment 30F. I remind noble Lords that anyone wishing to...

Moved by

Baroness Hamwee

30F: Clause 43, page 39, line 28, leave out from “individual...

My Lords, Clause 43 is about the provision of information, including information about electronic...

My Lords, the only thing that I will add to what my noble friend Lady Hamwee has said about this ...

This amendment is probing the additional power given by Clause 43 of the Bill to allow the Secret...

My Lords, I wholeheartedly agree with the final comments of the noble and learned Lord; that is e...

My Lords, yes, I will seek to leave to withdraw my amendment.

I find it a bit difficult to ...

We now come to the group beginning with Amendment 32. I remind noble Lords that anyone wishing to...

Moved by

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede

32: Clause 47, page 40, line 35, leave out subsec...

My Lords, my Amendment 32 would put into legislation a deadline for the Prevent review to be publ...

My Lords, I pay personal tribute to the stamina and persistence of my noble friends Lady Hamwee a...

My Lords, I completely agree with my noble friend Lord Thomas of Gresford’s comments on the suspi...

My Lords, both amendments in this group would add a new statutory deadline for the completion of ...

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Thomas, for the rhetorical flourish at the end of his spee...

We now come to the group beginning with Amendment 37. I remind noble Lords that anyone wishing to...

Moved by

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede

37: After Clause 47, insert the following new Cla...

My Lords, Amendments 37 and 40 concern “lone terrorists” and the review of the strategy concernin...

My Lords, the lone terrorist poses a particular danger. “We do not understand them,” said the nob...

My Lords, the imperfections of remote working have again unfortunately intervened. I did ask to s...

I apologise to the noble Lord. The delay in getting messages to the iPad on the Woolsack meant th...

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, continues to prove himself doughty in the face of technol...

My Lords, I thank everyone who has spoken on this short group of amendments. The Minister offered...

My Lords, we now come to the group beginning with Amendment 41, which is all government amendment...

Moved by

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar

41: Schedule 13, page 102, line 13, at end insert —...

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 42 to 65 inclusive and to Amendments 69, 71, 72, 74 an...

My Lords, since requests to speak after the Minister are delivered to the Deputy Chairman of Comm...

I am very grateful to my noble friend Lord Thomas of Gresford for doing the heavy lifting in look...

The only amendment I would like to mention is Amendment 60, which amends Section 250 of the Crimi...

My Lords, I am grateful for the comments of the noble Lords, Lord Thomas of Gresford and Lord Pad...

Moved by

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar

42: Schedule 13, page 102, line 34, at end insert—<...

We now come to the group beginning with Amendment 66. I remind noble Lords that anyone wishing to...

Moved by

Lord Stewart of Dirleton

66: Schedule 13, page 122, line 21, at end insert—<...

In moving the amendment in the name of my noble friend Lord Wolfson of Tredegar, I shall speak al...

My Lords, I am most grateful to the noble and learned Lord, Lord Stewart, for moving these amendm...

My Lords, I am minded to say, “Like the last lot”—but I am very grateful to my noble friend Lord ...

Like the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, I too am grateful to the four Ministers for the care and good ...

My Lords, I will undertake to provide that explanation on what are, as all the speakers who have ...

Moved by

Lord Stewart of Dirleton

67: Schedule 13, page 123, line 6, leave out sub-pa...

Moved by

Lord Wolfson of Tredegar

71: Clause 52, page 43, line 1, leave out sub-parag...

My Lords, with thanks to all noble Lords who have enabled us to complete the Committee’s scrutiny...