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Parliamentary Constituencies Bill

Debate on bills on Thursday, 8 October 2020, in the House of Lords, led by Lord True and Baroness Scott of Bybrook. The answering members were Baroness Gale and Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town.
Lords report stage. Amendment 2 agreed to on division (261 to 240). Amendment 3 agreed to on division (251 to 214). Amendments 6 to 8 agreed to. Amendment 11 agreed to on division (319 to 224). Amendment 13 agreed to on division (269 to 235). Amendment 16 agreed to on division (293 to 215). Bill, as amended, ordered to be printed (HL Bill 140).

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

806 cc712-1074 

Session

2019-21

Department

Cabinet Office

Legislative stage

Report stage

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber
Parliamentary Constituencies Bill 2019-21. Brought from the Commons.
Wednesday, 15 July 2020
Bills
House of Lords
Parliamentary Constituencies Bill. Constitution Committee (HL) thirteenth report.
Thursday, 3 September 2020
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Parliamentary Constituencies Bill 2019-21. As amended on Report.
Thursday, 8 October 2020
Bills
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 806 c713 (Link to this contribution)

Tabled by

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town

1: Clause 1, page 1, line 5, leave out subs...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 806 c713 (Link to this contribution)

One objection to automaticity was that it left a delaying power in the hands of the Government. G...


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Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 806 c713 (Link to this contribution)

We now come to the group beginning with Amendment 2. I remind noble Lords that Members other than...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 806 c713 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock

2: Clause 1, page 1, line 12, leave out “2031” and i...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 806 cc713-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I also speak to Amendment 3 in my name. Amendment 2, if agreed to, would move the next ...

Lord Rennard | 806 cc714-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Bill sets out a system for reviewing constituency boundaries which will result in c...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 806 cc715-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise for not participating in Committee, having spoken at Second Reading, but I ...

Lord Morris of Aberavon | 806 c716 (Link to this contribution)

I have little to add to what I have heard. It is important that changes to constituencies are not...

Baroness Pidding | 806 c717 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I spoke at Second Reading but not in Committee, but I have been following the Bill’s pr...

Lord Lipsey | 806 cc717-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment and I want to focus on one particular point. The Minister, in r...

Earl of Shrewsbury | 806 c718 (Link to this contribution)

My Lord, I believe that it is sensible to have more frequent boundary reviews than those being pr...

Lord Blunkett | 806 cc718-9 (Link to this contribution)

It is always a pleasure to follow the noble Earl, Lord Shrewsbury, not least because of his own a...

Lord Tyler | 806 c719 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I agree very much with what the noble Lord, Lord Blunkett, has just said about the emph...

Baroness Gale | 806 cc719-720 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lord Foulkes and all noble Lords who have spoken today on these...

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 806 cc720-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment seeks to change the timings of boundary reviews so that a review would b...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 806 cc721-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been an interesting debate which has served to convince me that we were absolu...

Lord Russell of Liverpool | 806 c723 (Link to this contribution)

We now come to the group beginning with Amendment 6. I remind noble Lords that Members other than...

Lord Young of Cookham | 806 c723 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Young of Cookham

6: Clause 2, page 2, line 20, leave out “As soon as re...

Lord Young of Cookham | 806 cc723-732 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I beg to move Amendment 6 in my name, which is reinforced by the names of my noble frie...

Lord Russell of Liverpool | 806 c732 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Randall of Uxbridge, has withdrawn from this group, so I call the next speak...

Lord Campbell of Pittenweem | 806 c732 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will be brief, taking full advantage of the speech of the noble Lord, Lord Young of C...

Lord Blencathra | 806 cc732-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am delighted to welcome this amendment and to add my name to it. I can also be brief ...

Lord Grocott | 806 cc733-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I certainly support this amendment; without it the Bill would have been based on a fals...

Lord Cormack | 806 c734 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, not for the first time I find myself very much in sympathy with the points made by the ...

Lord Hayward | 806 cc734-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before I comment on this amendment, can I pick up on what two noble Lords have said? Wh...

Lord Tyler | 806 cc736-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Hayward, has brought some very important, practical questions to y...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 806 c737 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we do not need to detain the House on an amendment where everything has been said and h...

Lord True | 806 cc737-740 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in the debate. The House will not object if I s...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 806 c740 (Link to this contribution)

I have received a request from the noble Lord, Lord Blencathra, to ask a short question for eluci...

Lord Blencathra | 806 c740 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is not a question as such. I want to commend my noble friend Lord Hayward for ment...

Lord True | 806 c740 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not think I need to add anything, except to say that I share my noble friend’s aff...

Lord Young of Cookham | 806 c740 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I can be brief. I join the Minister in thanking all noble Lords who have taken part in ...

Lord Young of Cookham | 806 cc740-1 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Young of Cookham

7: Clause 2, page 2, line 26, at end insert—

“(1...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 806 c741 (Link to this contribution)

We now come to the group consisting of Amendment 11. I remind noble Lords that Members other than...

Lord Thomas of Cwmgiedd | 806 cc741-2 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Thomas of Cwmgiedd

11: After Clause 4, insert the following new Clause—...

Lord Thomas of Cwmgiedd | 806 cc742-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 11 seeks to put in place matters essential to dealing with the important cons...

Lord Janvrin | 806 cc745-6 (Link to this contribution)

I support the amendment in the name of the noble and learned Lord, Lord Thomas; I do so because t...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 806 cc746-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was unable to take part in the Second Reading or the Committee stage of the Bill, but...

Lord Hayward | 806 cc747-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first I comment on the reference by the noble Lord, Lord Thomas of Gresford, to “party ...

Lord Russell of Liverpool | 806 c749 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness, Lady Humphreys, has withdrawn from the debate on this group, so I call the ne...

Lord Morris of Aberavon | 806 c749 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the noble and learned Lord, Lord Thomas of Cwmgiedd, and I encourage him to p...

Lord Beith | 806 cc749-751 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, when the Constitution Committee considered the Bill, we took the view that the removal ...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 806 c751 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the noble and learned Lord, Lord Thomas of Cwmgiedd, has argued, the amendment refle...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 806 c752 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the noble Lord, Lord Beith, said, our Constitution Committee accepted the move from ...

Lord True | 806 cc753-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there is a short period in the life of a Minister between being thanked by your Lordshi...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 806 c754 (Link to this contribution)

I have received a request to ask a short question for elucidation from the noble Lord, Lord Corma...

Lord Cormack | 806 c754 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have a very short question for my noble friend, to whom I have listened with great ca...

Lord True | 806 c754 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the matter before the House is whether the system for England and Wales is sufficient a...

Lord Thomas of Cwmgiedd | 806 cc754-6 (Link to this contribution)

I thank all noble Lords for their contributions to this interesting debate and, in particular, I ...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 806 c756 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we now come to the group beginning with Amendment 12. I have to inform your Lordships t...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 806 c756 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town

12: After Clause 5, insert the following new...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 806 cc756-762 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, technically I rise to move Amendment 12, in the name of my noble friend Lord Lennie and...

Lord Tyler | 806 cc762-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, our own amendment in this group is Amendment 14 in my name and that of my noble friend ...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 806 c764 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Hain, and the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay, have withdrawn, so I call the nob...

Lord Grocott | 806 cc764-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to my noble friend’s amendment and I agree with every word she said. I do...

Lord Wigley | 806 c765 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I very much agree with previous speakers on this group of amendments and support Amendm...

Lord Morris of Aberavon | 806 cc765-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support my noble friend Lady Hayter in her amendment and have added my name to the im...

Lord Blencathra | 806 cc766-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it was a delight to hear the noble Baroness, Lady Hayter, move the amendment. I recall ...

Lord Blunkett | 806 cc768-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think parliamentary language allows me to use the term, balderdash. In a stroke, the ...

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 806 cc769-770 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am entering the debate on this group of amendments and speaking to them because I am ...

Lord Lipsey | 806 cc770-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am not going to go back over all the arguments about 7.5%, 5%, 10% and so on; they ha...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 806 cc771-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I cannot understand why the Government continue to insist on this reduction in the vari...

Baroness Pidding | 806 c772 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak briefly against the amendments in this group.

As I said in my remarks on ...

Lord Robathan | 806 cc772-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, these amendments are about equity and fairness—or, rather, inequity and unfairness.

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Lord Rennard | 806 cc773-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in 2013 and 2018 plans for revisions to constituency boundaries were published. They di...

Lord True | 806 cc775-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it has been another long and interesting debate and I am grateful to all noble Lords wh...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 806 cc779-780 (Link to this contribution)

I agree completely with the Minister that the union is most successful, and that we want to stay ...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 806 c780 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town

13: After Clause 5, insert the following new...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 806 c780 (Link to this contribution)

As I indicated, in moving Amendment 13, I wish to test the opinion of the House.

Baroness Henig | 806 c780 (Link to this contribution)

We now come to the group consisting of Amendment 15. I remind noble Lords that Members other than...

Lord Tyler | 806 c780 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Tyler

15: Clause 6, page 5, line 2, at end insert—

“( ) After rul...

Lord Tyler | 806 cc780-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish to speak to Amendment 15 in my name. Again, I am delighted to have the support o...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 806 cc785-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to speak to this amendment, so ably moved by the noble Lord, Lord Tyle...

Lord Teverson | 806 cc786-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Bourne. While he was a Minister i...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 806 c787 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have heard a Cornish voice that is almost as loud, although obviously not as musical...

Lord True | 806 cc787-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for the opportunity to respond to this short debate. Its brevity does not...

Lord Tyler | 806 c788 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to all Members who contributed to this short debate, particularly th...

Baroness Henig | 806 cc788-790 (Link to this contribution)

We now come to the group consisting of Amendment 16. I remind noble Lords that Members, other tha...

Lord Shutt of Greetland | 806 c790 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Shutt of Greetland

16: After Clause 6, insert the following new Clause—...

Lord Shutt of Greetland | 806 cc790-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I beg to move Amendment 16 as an important enhancement of the Bill, which would improve...

Lord Wills | 806 cc791-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to say a few words in support of the amendment, to which I have put my name.

...
Lord Janvrin | 806 cc792-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too—alongside the noble Lord, Lord Wills, who has just spoken—was a member of the Sel...

Lord Lexden | 806 cc793-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I back this amendment with some vigour as the last of a cross-party group of colleagues...

Lord Rennard | 806 cc794-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in the debate on this Bill in the other place on 14 July, the Minister Chloe Smith spok...

Baroness Gale | 806 cc795-6 (Link to this contribution)

I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in this debate.

It has already been mentioned t...

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 806 cc796-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lords who tabled this amendment. It provides an opportunity ...

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 806 c799 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have received no request to speak after the Minister, so I call the noble Lord, Lord ...

Lord Shutt of Greetland | 806 c799 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lords who spoke in favour of this amendment, which is everybody bar t...

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 806 c800 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we now come to the group beginning with Amendment 17. I remind noble Lords that Members...

Lord Lipsey | 806 c800 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Lipsey

17: Clause 7, page 5, line 22, at end insert—

“(d) a const...

Lord Lipsey | 806 cc800-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have had a long, hard afternoon and tummies are rumbling, so I genuinely will not de...

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 806 c804 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my apologies—I was momentarily distracted. I thought the noble Lord, Lord Lipsey, had c...

Lord Lipsey | 806 c804 (Link to this contribution)

I have stopped. No word issues from my mouth.

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 806 c804 (Link to this contribution)

I wonder if the noble Lord, Lord Lipsey, could repeat what he just said. I am afraid I was unable...

Lord Lipsey | 806 c804 (Link to this contribution)

No words are issuing from my mouth. I have finished; I have stopped; I am ended.

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 806 c804 (Link to this contribution)

Could the noble Lord confirm whether he intends to move his amendment?

Lord Lipsey | 806 c804 (Link to this contribution)

I intend to withdraw it after the Minister’s reply.

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 806 c804 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think—I think—I was right the first time and the amendment has been proposed.

Lord Wigley | 806 cc804-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am delighted to support the noble Lord on this amendment and to introduce my own amen...

Baroness Humphreys | 806 cc805-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish to speak briefly to both amendments in this group. In Committee, I spoke to the ...

Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall | 806 c806 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness, Lady Finlay of Llandaff, has withdrawn from the debate and so I call the nobl...

Baroness Randerson | 806 cc806-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, these amendments draw attention yet again to the problems caused by any attempt to impo...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 806 cc807-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I must declare an interest, in that my grandfather was from Llanfihangel-yng-Ngwynfa in...

Baroness Gale | 806 c809 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all those who have spoken to these amendments. It has been a very good gatherin...

Lord True | 806 cc809-811 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, again I am very grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken. First, I say to the noble ...

Lord Lipsey | 806 c811 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think that the friends of Brecon and Radnorshire should have a good party when corona...

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