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Parliamentary Constituencies Bill

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Thursday, 10 September 2020, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage second day. New clause debated and withdrawn. Clause 5 agreed to. New clause under consideration.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

805 cc261-328GC 

Session

2019-21

Department

Cabinet Office

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords Grand Committee
Parliamentary Constituencies Bill 2019-21. Brought from the Commons.
Wednesday, 15 July 2020
Bills
House of Lords
Parliamentary Constituencies Bill. Constitution Committee (HL) thirteenth report.
Thursday, 3 September 2020
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Baroness Henig | 805 cc261-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Hybrid Grand Committee will now begin. Some Members are here in person, respecting ...

Lord Thomas of Cwmgiedd | 805 c262GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Thomas of Cwmgiedd

12: After Clause 4, insert the following new Clause—...


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Lord Thomas of Cwmgiedd | 805 cc262-4GC (Link to this contribution)

The background to Amendment 12 is the effect of automaticity in moving the focus to the Boundary ...

Lord Janvrin | 805 cc264-5GC (Link to this contribution)

I will speak briefly in support of the amendment introduced by the noble and learned Lord, Lord T...

Baroness Henig | 805 c265GC (Link to this contribution)

Lord Liddle. No? We will move on to the noble and learned Lord, Lord Morris of Aberavon.

Lord Morris of Aberavon | 805 cc265-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to support the noble and learned Lord, Lord Thomas. As Welsh Secretary...

Baroness Humphreys | 805 cc266-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I begin by apologising for not being able to take part at Second Reading. I thank the n...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 805 cc267-8GC (Link to this contribution)

Diolch yn fawr. It is very nice to have so many Welsh people speaking in this debate. I think it ...

Lord True | 805 cc268-272GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I start by thanking the noble and learned Lord, Lord Thomas of Cwmgiedd, for the detail...

Baroness Henig | 805 c273GC (Link to this contribution)

I have received a request to speak after the Minister from the noble Baroness, Lady Hayter of Ken...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 805 c273GC (Link to this contribution)

The Minister and I obviously have our political differences, but he probably knows that I would v...

Lord True | 805 c273GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I might be permitted to reply to that. I always try to be gracious and I enjoy ...

Lord Thomas of Cwmgiedd | 805 cc273-4GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in favour of the amendment. Perhaps I might briefly reply...

Baroness Henig | 805 c274GC (Link to this contribution)

We now come to the group consisting of Amendment 13. I remind noble Lords that anyone wishing to ...

Lord Norton of Louth | 805 c274GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Norton of Louth

13: Clause 5, page 4, line 31, leave out “650” and inse...

Lord Norton of Louth | 805 cc274-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend Lord Cormack, who is a signatory to the amendment, sends his apologies ...

Lord Hayward | 805 c275GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in light of the opening remarks of the noble Baroness, Lady Hayter, perhaps I might sta...

Baroness Deech | 805 cc275-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support everything that the noble Lord, Lord Norton, has said and, therefore, I oppos...

Lord Morris of Aberavon | 805 cc277-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the points made by the noble Baroness, Lady Deech, on the size of the House of Lords ar...

Lord Blencathra | 805 cc278-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am speaking to your Lordships from the far end of the Room. It is not that I consider...

Lord Rennard | 805 c279GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Norton of Louth, made an interesting speech and made points that t...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 805 cc279-282GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Norton, on his ingenuity in bringing this amendment...

Lord True | 805 cc282-5GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords, including my noble friends Lord Norton of Louth and Lord Hayward, and all ot...

Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 805 c285GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have received a request from the noble Baroness, Lady Smith of Basildon, to speak aft...

Baroness Smith of Basildon | 805 cc285-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak briefly. First, I make a plea to the Minister never to refer to this House...

Lord True | 805 c286GC (Link to this contribution)

First, as I hope I indicated in my remarks, I accept the strictures of the noble Baroness on the ...

Lord Norton of Louth | 805 cc286-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to all those who spoke. The noble Baroness, Lady Smith, just made two of ...

Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 805 cc287-8GC (Link to this contribution)

Before I call the next group, I have had a request for Members in the room to speak up a little,<...

Lord Hain | 805 c288GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Hain

14: Clause 5, page 4, line 31, at end insert—

“(2) Rule 3 of...

Lord Hain | 805 cc288-290GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords I beg leave to move Amendment 14, in my name and those of my noble friend Lord Grocott a...

Lord Wigley | 805 cc290-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 14 in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Hain, to which I have added ...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 805 c291GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, these hybrid proceedings are very strange. I was in the Committee Room on Tuesday, so I...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 805 cc291-3GC (Link to this contribution)

Indeed it is—I can see that already. Here at home we are at least spared the glass boxes that I s...

Lord Grocott | 805 cc293-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is my pleasure to give my strong support to both these amendments from my noble frie...

Baroness Humphreys | 805 cc294-5GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord, Lord Hain, for tabling Amendment 14 and for presenting us with the opport...

Lord Morris of Aberavon | 805 cc295-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment so ably moved by my noble friend Lord Hain, as is his custom. H...

Lord Blencathra | 805 cc296-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I listened very carefully to the noble Lord, Lord Hain, expanding on his amendment. Whi...

Lord Bruce of Bennachie | 805 cc297-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 23, in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Foulkes. I apologise for no...

Lord McNicol of West Kilbride | 805 cc299-300GC (Link to this contribution)

For me, this is about priorities. I suppose that is what I shall try to appeal to the Minister ab...

Baroness Randerson | 805 cc300-1GC (Link to this contribution)

I want to speak specifically about Amendment 14. I am glad to see it on the Marshalled List, beca...

Lord Lipsey | 805 cc301-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was thrilled when in introducing this debate my noble friend Lord Hain thanked my nob...

Lord Rennard | 805 cc302-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I sympathise with many of the sentiments expressed by those who want to protect some of...

Lord Tyler | 805 cc303-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have listened with great interest to this very interesting debate. Some powerful cont...

Lord Lennie | 805 c305GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, thanks are due in particular to the noble Lords, Lord Hain, Lord Wigley, Lord Foulkes a...

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 805 cc305-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the two amendments in this group seek to fix the number of constituencies of two nation...

Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 805 c308GC (Link to this contribution)

I have received requests to speak after the Minister from the noble Lords, Lord McNicol and Lord ...

Lord McNicol of West Kilbride | 805 c308GC (Link to this contribution)

I want to come back to the Minister. The Government seem to put all their weight behind the equal...

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 805 c308GC (Link to this contribution)

The five protected constituencies are islands, as the noble Lord has already said, and I think an...

Lord Lipsey | 805 c308GC (Link to this contribution)

I will just, if I may, correct the Minister on a minor point. She listed among the Scottish Membe...

Baroness Scott of Bybrook | 805 c308GC (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry; I am very happy to withdraw that. He was supporting the cause of Scotland.

Lord Hain | 805 cc308-310GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all who have participated in the debate, beginning with my noble friend Lord Wi...

Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 805 c309GC (Link to this contribution)

Meanwhile, does the noble Lord beg leave to withdraw it?

Lord Hain | 805 c309GC (Link to this contribution)

I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 805 c309GC (Link to this contribution)

A little later than we planned, the Committee will now adjourn for 15 minutes.

5.49 pm

Lord Bates | 805 c309GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we now come to the group beginning with Amendment 15. I remind noble Lords that anyone ...

Lord Lennie | 805 c309GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Lennie

15: After Clause 5, insert the following new Clause—

“Elec...

Lord Lennie | 805 cc309-312GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if we did not know it before, we now know that this will be an important issue, and it ...

Lord Grocott | 805 cc312-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, these various amendments remind us of a fundamental and inherent contradiction in a key...

Lord Tyler | 805 cc313-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish particularly to speak in support of Amendment 16 in my name and that of my noble...

Lord Lipsey | 805 cc314-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think the noble Lord, Lord True, had only just entered the House, in 2010, when we di...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 805 cc316-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow the erudition of my noble friend, in every sense of th...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 805 cc318-320GC (Link to this contribution)

I am very happy to follow the noble Lord, Lord Foulkes. I am not sure he is right about me not be...

Lord Shutt of Greetland | 805 cc320-1GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendments in this group are mainly to do with promoting constituencies that are ge...

Lord Bates | 805 c321GC (Link to this contribution)

With the consent of the noble Lord, Lord Hayward, I call the noble Lord, Lord Blencathra, next.

Lord Blencathra | 805 cc321-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, these are important amendments—among the most important in the Bill. I congratulate all...

Lord Hayward | 805 cc324-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I may pick up on a number of points that have been raised by other noble Lords ...

Lord Bates | 805 c328GC (Link to this contribution)

That completes the work of the Committee for today. The Committee stands adjourned; I remind Memb...

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