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European Union (Withdrawal) Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Wednesday, 21 March 2018, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Keen of Elie.
Lords committee stage ninth day. Clause 11 under discussion. Part 3 of 3.

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Reference

790 cc348-406 

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2017-19

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Scotland Office

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Committee stage

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European Union (Withdrawal) Bill 2017-19. Brought from the Commons.
Thursday, 18 January 2018
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Wednesday, 21 March 2018
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Wednesday, 21 March 2018
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Proceeding contributions

Lord Keen of Elie | 790 cc349-350 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Keen of Elie

302A: Clause 11, page 7, line 25, leave out subsections (1...

Lord Keen of Elie | 790 cc350-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to the other government amendments in this group. We have put forwar...


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Lord Beith | 790 c351 (Link to this contribution)

Might noble Lords be referring to the mixed metaphor they have just heard?

Lord Keen of Elie | 790 cc351-4 (Link to this contribution)

May I proceed to split an infinitive?

The new arrangements must be achieved in partnership ...

Lord Griffiths of Burry Port | 790 c354 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Griffiths of Burry Port

302B: Clause 11, in subsection (2), in inserted...

Lord Griffiths of Burry Port | 790 cc354-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 302B I shall speak also to Amendments 302C and 302G, which seek to ...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 790 c356 (Link to this contribution)

I am following the noble Lord’s argument very carefully. Will he explain why he is content with t...

Lord Griffiths of Burry Port | 790 c357 (Link to this contribution)

While I will have a word to say in a moment about the use of the word veto, I will not claim to k...

Lord Griffiths of Burry Port | 790 c357 (Link to this contribution)

I beg your pardon. I think the mistake is evidence of the fact that I am not qualified to answer ...

Lord Hain | 790 c357 (Link to this contribution)

With due respect to the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth, not for the first time he is wrong about this. ...

Lord Griffiths of Burry Port | 790 c357 (Link to this contribution)

I am delighted to receive that help from behind me, and also to hear from alongside me that, when...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 790 c357 (Link to this contribution)

What the noble Lord, Lord Hain, is saying is perfectly correct. My question to him was why they w...

Lord Griffiths of Burry Port | 790 c357 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord. I have long since learned that perfection is not my strongest suit. I rem...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 790 c357 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I could help the noble Lord. In the circumstances my noble friend Lord Forsyth expresses,...

Lord Griffiths of Burry Port | 790 cc357-8 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the noble Baroness. Because I am where I am, I am equally certain that the ...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 790 cc358-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my Amendment 318A is in this group. As your Lordships know, I am a lawyer, but I have a...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 790 c359 (Link to this contribution)

I am very interested in this concept, which my noble and learned friend is putting forward, that ...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 790 cc359-361 (Link to this contribution)

I am not suggesting that for a minute. I am suggesting that what is required is a single market w...

Lord Wigley | 790 cc361-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I tabled Amendment 318AA as an amendment to the amendment in the name of the noble and ...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 790 c362 (Link to this contribution)

Will the noble Lord allow me to remind him that the Scottish Parliament had great difficulty in p...

Lord Wigley | 790 c362 (Link to this contribution)

I have no doubt it had difficulty in passing it. None the less, the objective was a very valid on...

Lord Hain | 790 c362 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure my noble friend will agree with this point. Mention has been made of Scottish whisky—Sc...

Lord Wigley | 790 c363 (Link to this contribution)

Not only do I agree with my noble friend but I will surprise the Committee by reminding him that ...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 790 c363 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Forsyth, correctly said that the European Commission objected. But in fact t...

Lord Wigley | 790 c363 (Link to this contribution)

Indeed—which shows the importance of the health and social agenda that underpinned the initiative...

Lord Grabiner | 790 c363 (Link to this contribution)

The amendment includes the proposition that if the panel “consider it necessary”, they may refer ...

Lord Wigley | 790 c363 (Link to this contribution)

I note what the noble Lord says. All I would say in response is that, in the context of a single ...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 790 c364 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak to Amendments 318B, 318C, 318D and 318E, which, it does not take a lot of worki...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 790 c364 (Link to this contribution)

In spite of being a Tory; that is right. He has been constrained by Whitehall in getting decision...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 790 c364 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord is clearly very expert on this process and when these meetings were held...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 790 cc364-6 (Link to this contribution)

I have no idea; maybe the Government can help. What I can tell the noble Lord is that when I was ...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 790 cc366-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 302BA, 312 and 318 in my name, but I shall start by speakin...

Lord Dykes | 790 c368 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to the noble and learned Lord for giving way. He referred to the noble Lord, L...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 790 cc369-370 (Link to this contribution)

There are lots of questions there from the noble Lord, Lord Dykes. First, as a member of a party ...

Lord McConnell of Glenscorrodale | 790 cc370-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have been very critical of the way that both the Government and the Scottish Governme...

Lord Lang of Monkton | 790 cc371-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, after roaming around the various amendments to the government amendment, I would like t...

Lord Hain | 790 c374 (Link to this contribution)

Even accepting the noble Lord’s criticism of the nationalist Government in Edinburgh, can I just ...

Lord Lang of Monkton | 790 c374 (Link to this contribution)

I take note of what the noble Lord says, though I have to say that I have heard information from ...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 790 c374 (Link to this contribution)

With respect, I am saddened to hear the noble Lord get on to this grievance and feeling against t...

Lord Lang of Monkton | 790 cc374-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too regret having to refer to the behaviour of the Scottish National Party and its co...

Lord Beith | 790 c375 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord is a former chairman of the Constitution Committee, but he is perhaps do...

Lord Lang of Monkton | 790 c375 (Link to this contribution)

I agree that progress has to be made, but progress is not made by constantly agreeing to give leg...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 790 c375 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before the noble Lord sits down, I am slightly confused. He said that he supports the g...

Lord Lang of Monkton | 790 c375 (Link to this contribution)

Of course I agree with my Front Bench, and I have already commended it for its willingness to wit...

Lord Campbell of Pittenweem | 790 c376 (Link to this contribution)

I shall speak briefly to the amendment proposed by the noble and learned Lord, Lord Mackay of Cla...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 790 c376 (Link to this contribution)

Will the noble Lord allow me to take the opportunity to say that, as he will remember, there is p...

Lord Campbell of Pittenweem | 790 cc376-7 (Link to this contribution)

The noble and learned Lord’s intervention is most helpful. Of course, the language of proposed su...

Lord Wigley | 790 c377 (Link to this contribution)

I concur entirely, in that I hope the amendment tabled by the noble and learned Lord, Lord Mackay...

Lord Campbell of Pittenweem | 790 c377 (Link to this contribution)

It is a question of judgment. The mechanism that the noble Lord suggests may achieve the objectiv...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 790 cc377-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I feel a bit like somebody from Relate. I am a Cross-Bencher, I am not a lawyer, and I ...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 790 c378 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have never known a Government make such efforts to meet the arguments that have been ...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 790 c378 (Link to this contribution)

That is an open admission of it. As I look at the amendment, I think, “Who will speak for England...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 790 cc378-9 (Link to this contribution)

My noble and learned friend says that it tells me. Yes, it tells me that it is the Secretary of S...

Lord McConnell of Glenscorrodale | 790 c379 (Link to this contribution)

I have heard the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth, say on several occasions in these debates on Brexit in...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 790 cc379-380 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord is talking nonsense—codswallop in fact—in the context of fishing because the posit...

Lord McConnell of Glenscorrodale | 790 c380 (Link to this contribution)

Plenty of countries around the world that enter into international treaties have internal mechani...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 790 c380 (Link to this contribution)

I will return to my copy of this important text and will be in touch with the noble Lord in that ...

Lord Wigley | 790 c380 (Link to this contribution)

Does the noble Lord accept that some of the frustration that has built up, certainly in Cardiff, ...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 790 c380 (Link to this contribution)

I do not know the detail. I do know that a number of the joint ministerial meetings were cancelle...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 790 c381 (Link to this contribution)

May I just answer the noble Lord before I deal with the noble Lord, Lord Thomas?

I understa...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 790 c381 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord has just outlined a dispute resolution system of which he was part. He said that t...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 790 cc381-2 (Link to this contribution)

If the noble Lord had listened to the first part of my speech, I explained who would speak for En...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 790 c382 (Link to this contribution)

I hear tittering in the background. Does the noble Lord wish to intervene?

It is a huge ste...

Lord Morris of Aberavon | 790 cc382-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will make a few comments in this somewhat bizarre debate on the government amendments...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 790 cc384-5 (Link to this contribution)

I do not want to detain the Committee for very long; I will make just one or two points. First, I...

Baroness Randerson | 790 c385 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we sit here week after week and, wherever we started our careers, we cannot help but lo...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 790 cc385-7 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful. I think the noble Baroness might have misunderstood me. The point I was making was...

Baroness Randerson | 790 c387 (Link to this contribution)

I resist the idea that I ever deliberately misrepresent anything. However, I am very aware that, ...

Lord Dunlop | 790 cc387-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the hazard of speaking late in a debate is that, in the interests of brevity, you have ...

Lord Hain | 790 cc388-390 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think that many in your Lordships’ House will welcome the interesting and constructiv...

Lord Lang of Monkton | 790 c390 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am glad to agree with the noble Lord, Lord Hain, on the point that he has just made. ...

Lord Hain | 790 cc390-1 (Link to this contribution)

At this late hour, that is probably a debate for another occasion, but I welcome at least the fir...

Baroness Randerson | 790 c391 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Bill received assent today.

Lord Hain | 790 c391 (Link to this contribution)

With the help of the noble Baroness, Lady Randerson, we can put on the record the fact that the B...

Lord McConnell of Glenscorrodale | 790 c391 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome the proposal just made by my noble friend Lord Hain, because two versions of it have be...

Lord Hain | 790 c392 (Link to this contribution)

I completely agree with my noble friend; he spelt it out very clearly.

At the same time, th...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 790 c392 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may reinforce what the noble Lord said. He said that Report stage was still some time a...

Lord Hain | 790 cc392-3 (Link to this contribution)

I welcome what the noble and learned Lord has said. If it really is not possible to work up such ...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 790 cc393-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I applaud the spirit in which the Government have brought forward the amendments before...

Lord Hain | 790 c394 (Link to this contribution)

Sometimes devolved Ministers are there on their own.

Lord McConnell of Glenscorrodale | 790 c394 (Link to this contribution)

I absolutely endorse the description by the noble Baroness of the way consent works in that situa...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 790 c394 (Link to this contribution)

That is the point I am trying to make. It may be helpful if I conclude by asking the Minister a q...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 790 cc394-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the veterans of devolution legislation—and I have sat through all the Acts, both Scotti...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 790 cc395-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I know the Committee wants to move on but I will make just a couple of brief points—in ...

Earl of Kinnoull | 790 cc397-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak very briefly indeed, in strong support of the government amendments, to ma...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 790 c398 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Earl may know that the Scottish Parliament rejected my suggestion that it should have a...

Earl of Kinnoull | 790 c399 (Link to this contribution)

I did. I will send my job application in.

I feel that we must have regard to that issue. I ...

Lord Campbell of Pittenweem | 790 c399 (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Earl sits down, I would like to pick up the point that was made to him at lunch....

Earl of Kinnoull | 790 c399 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the noble Lord for making a jolly good point very well. At the lunch, that ...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 790 cc399-402 (Link to this contribution)

I join many noble Lords in congratulating the Government on the way they have handled this issue ...

Lord Keen of Elie | 790 cc402-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, are you sure? I do not think there is any need to rush this. We have covered a lot of g...

Lord Keen of Elie | 790 c406 (Link to this contribution)

I reassure the noble Lord, Lord Newby, that the roads do not go to Brussels any more. However, he...

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