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Lords committee stage fifth day. Clause 7 under consideration. Part 3 of 3.

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2017-19

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European Union (Withdrawal) Bill 2017-19. Brought from the Commons.
Thursday, 18 January 2018
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Proceeding contributions

Lord Wilson of Dinton | 789 c1178 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wilson of Dinton

71: Clause 7, page 5, line 3, leave out “the Minister ...

Lord Wilson of Dinton | 789 cc1178-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 71, I will also speak to Amendments 116, 253 and 257, which are in ...


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Viscount Hailsham | 789 c1179 (Link to this contribution)

And in an unamendable sense, because it is to be done by resolution—there can be no amendment to ...

Lord Wilson of Dinton | 789 cc1179-1180 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Viscount reinforces the point which I am trying to make. The Explanatory Notes explain ...

Lord Cormack | 789 c1180 (Link to this contribution)

Without reference to Parliament.

Lord Wilson of Dinton | 789 c1180 (Link to this contribution)

Is this reasonable without reference to Parliament, or to the lightest sifting procedure where an...

Lord Wilson of Dinton | 789 cc1180-1 (Link to this contribution)

I think we are making the same point, which is that it either conceals inadequate thought, or it ...

Lord Haskel | 789 c1182 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if this Amendment is agreed, I cannot call Amendments 72 or 73 because of pre-emption.<...

Lord Sharkey | 789 c1182 (Link to this contribution)

My noble friend Lord Tyler has added his name to Amendments 71, 116, 253 and 257. Unfortunately, ...

Lord Lang of Monkton | 789 cc1183-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I welcome the opportunity to speak to this group of amendments and support those spoken...

Lord Bilimoria | 789 cc1184-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if I may just follow on from the noble Lord, Lord Lang, I often say that this House’s r...

Viscount Hailsham | 789 c1185 (Link to this contribution)

Not only that, but the more tightly constrained the language of the Bill, the more readily the co...

Lord Bilimoria | 789 cc1185-6 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Viscount for that intervention. At the moment, the courts very rarely intervene...

Lord Beith | 789 cc1186-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, from this side of the Committee I shall speak to Amendment 244A, in my name, which come...

Lord Cormack | 789 cc1187-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have added my name to a number of amendments that delete “appropriate” and insert “ne...

Bishop of Leeds | 789 c1188 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I add my voice to those who are expressing caution. I sympathise with Ministers. Someho...

Lord Campbell of Pittenweem | 789 cc1188-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Wilson, said that it was 50 years since he had practised as a lawy...

Lord Dykes | 789 cc1189-1190 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow five or six scintillating and convincing speeches, all...

Viscount Hailsham | 789 cc1190-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak primarily —subject to pre-emption, whatever that means—to Amendments 73...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 789 c1192 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name is on some of these amendments. I will be extremely brief. We are now at the co...

Baroness Whitaker | 789 c1192 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Lang, pointed out that we are a bit thin on the ground for such an...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 789 cc1192-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the existence of these powers in the Bill has created an apprehension in a lot of peopl...

Lord Goldsmith | 789 cc1193-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, these are hugely important amendments. The Minister will have noted that not a single M...

Viscount Hailsham | 789 c1195 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble and learned Lord. Taking his point, if you were to combine the certifi...

Lord Goldsmith | 789 c1195 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Viscount. I would go further. First, I would say that the amendment ne...

Lord Callanan | 789 cc1195-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords very much for what has been an excellent debate. I use the word “de...

Lord Cormack | 789 c1197 (Link to this contribution)

Is my noble friend saying that he has made his mind up—or the Government have made their collecti...

Lord Callanan | 789 cc1197-8 (Link to this contribution)

If my noble friend will forgive me, I will discuss that in a second.

Ministers make their d...

Lord Newby | 789 c1198 (Link to this contribution)

Can the noble Lord give an example of where something is not really needed? Surely the whole poin...

Lord Callanan | 789 cc1198-9 (Link to this contribution)

If the noble Lord will have a little patience I will get on to that in a second.

If regulat...

Viscount Hailsham | 789 c1199 (Link to this contribution)

Is the Minister saying that he will not accept these amendments because he might be defeated in c...

Lord Callanan | 789 c1199 (Link to this contribution)

I think I have made my position clear on that but, nevertheless, I also said that we are listenin...

Lord Cormack | 789 c1199 (Link to this contribution)

I beg my noble friend to talk to his ministerial colleagues and think again, otherwise the Govern...

Lord Callanan | 789 cc1199-1200 (Link to this contribution)

I said at the start that I am setting out a position, but I have heard the messages that came to ...

Lord Campbell of Pittenweem | 789 c1200 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord was helpful in trying to give an example for something else. Could he give an exam...

Lord Callanan | 789 c1200 (Link to this contribution)

I do not have any additional examples beyond the ones I have already given, but I will certainly ...

Lord Wilson of Dinton | 789 cc1200-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the 13 noble Lords who spoke on the amendment, all of whom were unanimous in th...

Baroness Bowles of Berkhamsted | 789 c1201 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Bowles of Berkhamsted

73A: Clause 7, page 5, line 7, at end insert ...

Baroness Bowles of Berkhamsted | 789 c1201 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, when we discussed Clause 2 and the Constitution Committee’s amendments, I said I did no...

Lord Callanan | 789 cc1201-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am tempted to send some cough sweets to the noble Baroness to help her: she certainly...

Baroness Bowles of Berkhamsted | 789 c1202 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 789 c1202 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town

80: Clause 7, page 5, line 39, leave out sub...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 789 cc1202-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak also to Amendment 82, which itself is amended—or, in truth, corrected—by A...

Baroness Ludford | 789 cc1203-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 80 in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Hayter. I cannot speak f...

Baroness Whitaker | 789 c1204 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support my noble friend’s Amendment 82. Yet again it is the issue of using secondary ...

Lord Beith | 789 c1204 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I follow my noble friend Lady Ludford in querying what is intended by Clause 7(3) and h...

Baroness Goldie | 789 cc1204-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a short but interesting debate covering an important point. When my minis...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 789 c1205 (Link to this contribution)

I am speaking to only a part of Amendment 82 and to Amendment 82A —in other words, to the bits ab...

Baroness Goldie | 789 c1205 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to the noble Baroness. I am looking at my speaking notes. It is a little diffi...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 789 c1205 (Link to this contribution)

I emailed the Minister’s advisers very early this morning and spoke to them earlier, so I would h...

Baroness Goldie | 789 cc1205-6 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness. I shall soldier on as best I can with the material I have. By way of ...

Baroness Ludford | 789 c1207 (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Baroness, Lady Hayter, responds, forgive me, but I am not sure I have entirely g...

Baroness Goldie | 789 cc1207-8 (Link to this contribution)

I would say to the noble Baroness that our elected counterparts in the other place were able to s...

Lord Adonis | 789 c1208 (Link to this contribution)

I took it as quite a significant move on the Government’s part for the noble Baroness, Lady Goldi...

Baroness Goldie | 789 c1208 (Link to this contribution)

I am not one to spurn the comments of attractive gentlemen, particularly when they are honeyed co...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 789 c1208 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness for that. Obviously, we will come on to a grouping of amendments speci...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 789 c1209 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering

81: Clause 7, page 5, line 46, leave out “, c...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 789 cc1209-1210 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am most grateful to speak to Amendment 81, which for these purposes is joined with Am...

Baroness Bowles of Berkhamsted | 789 c1210 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak only to Amendment 227C, just to say that this is a sort of “double omnibus” ame...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 789 c1210 (Link to this contribution)

In the absence of my noble friend Lord Bassam, I just want to encourage the Minister—though I am ...

Lord Callanan | 789 cc1210-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 81 in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady McIntosh of Pickering, concerns th...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 789 c1213 (Link to this contribution)

Although Amendment 244, in the name of my noble friend Lord Bassam, asks for,

“a certificat...

Lord Callanan | 789 c1213 (Link to this contribution)

No. As I have made clear throughout the Bill, our minds are not closed on many of these matters. ...

Baroness McIntosh of Pickering | 789 c1213 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am most grateful to the Minister and to all who have contributed to this little group...

Lord Fowler | 789 c1214 (Link to this contribution)

Amendment 82A, which is an amendment to Amendment 82, therefore falls.

Amendment 83

Lord Newby | 789 c1214 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Newby

83: Clause 7, page 6, line 11, leave out paragraph (b)

Lord Newby | 789 cc1214-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment simply asserts a long-established principle of British practice and law,...

Lord Adonis | 789 cc1216-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the difficulty with having been in this House for a number of years is that all these d...

Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 789 c1217 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to take the place of my noble friend Lord O’Donnell, who unfortunately cannot be...

Lord Whitty | 789 cc1217-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the noble Lord, Lord Newby, was kind enough to refer to my amendment, which was prob...

Lord Beith | 789 c1218 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support my noble friend Lord Newby on one specific reason why it is primary legislati...

Baroness Altmann | 789 c1218 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have added my name to these amendments. I believe that public bodies should be establ...

Baroness Whitaker | 789 c1219 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it must be inherently undemocratic for bodies that have significant obligations, for in...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 789 cc1219-1220 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think the good news is that we heard a hint earlier that this might be one of the are...

Lord Callanan | 789 cc1220-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I welcome the opportunity to respond to the debate, if only to confound all the prejudi...

Lord Newby | 789 c1222 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am most grateful to everybody who has spoken in this debate and to the Minister for h...

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