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European Union (Withdrawal) Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Wednesday, 21 February 2018, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Callanan.
Lords committee stage first day (part two of two). Clause 1 under discussion.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

789 cc219-258 

Session

2017-19

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Committee stage

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House of Lords chamber
European Union (Withdrawal) Bill 2017-19. Brought from the Commons.
Thursday, 18 January 2018
Bills
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European Union (Withdrawal) Bill. Constitution Committee (HL) ninth report.
Wednesday, 24 January 2018
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee twelfth report.
Wednesday, 31 January 2018
Parliamentary committees
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European Union (Withdrawal) Bill
Wednesday, 21 February 2018
Parliamentary proceedings
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 789 c219 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock

5: Clause 1, page 1, line 3, at end insert—

“(...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 789 c219 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a great pleasure to move Amendment 5. I pay particular credit to my good friend, ...


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Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 789 cc220-1 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, he is a good bit younger than me, Steve—sorry, I mean my noble friend. He may not remember t...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 789 c221 (Link to this contribution)

Could the noble Lord indicate whether he thinks that, if the House were to pass his amendment, th...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 789 c221 (Link to this contribution)

It would have no great effect either way, to be honest. I would like to think that it would have ...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 789 c221 (Link to this contribution)

As it happens, I have an amendment directed to Clause 11. I would have thought that there was an ...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 789 c222 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have great respect for the noble and learned Lord, Lord Hope, and he is right on this...

Lord Warner | 789 c222 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt the noble Lord in full flow, but I want to make an intervention that I ho...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 789 cc222-3 (Link to this contribution)

I was not in full flow; in fact, I was near the end, noble Lords will be pleased to hear. That is...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 789 cc223-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I well remember the debate on the latest Scotland Act. I think that it was Clause 2 tha...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 789 c224 (Link to this contribution)

May I ask the noble Lord to cast his mind back to 26 January 2012, when I moved a Motion that the...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 789 c224 (Link to this contribution)

I think I was behaving exactly like the noble Lord, Lord Foulkes. I was using the procedures of t...

Lord Hamilton of Epsom | 789 c224 (Link to this contribution)

Does my noble friend think that the noble Lord, Lord Foulkes, was briefed by the Scottish Nationa...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 789 c225 (Link to this contribution)

That is highly unlikely, although I am sure that it would welcome this amendment.

The key p...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 789 cc225-6 (Link to this contribution)

I wonder if I might add a Welsh dimension. The Joint Ministerial Committee did not meet from Febr...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 789 c226 (Link to this contribution)

I wonder whether the noble Lord could help me, and perhaps help the Government, and suggest what ...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 789 c226 (Link to this contribution)

I am not suggesting an amendment; I am suggesting that we take out Clause 11. The amendment being...

Lord Elystan-Morgan | 789 c226 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my understanding is that about a fortnight ago an undertaking was given in the House of...

Lord Wigley | 789 cc227-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Foulkes, for moving Amendment 5. I had intended t...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 789 cc228-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I note what the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth, said in response to my intervention. On the o...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 789 c229 (Link to this contribution)

The noble and learned Lord is very clever and experienced at negotiations with different politica...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 789 cc229-230 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if the noble Lord will allow me, there is certainly one attached to Clause 11 that has ...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 789 c230 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hope that an Englishman, albeit one with a Scottish name, may be allowed to add somet...

Lord Griffiths of Burry Port | 789 cc230-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a shorter debate than the previous one and I will try to honour the Minis...

Lord Callanan | 789 cc232-3 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord, Lord Griffiths, for his comments and I agree that this matter is totally ...

Lord Wallace of Tankerness | 789 c234 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister said there have been six meetings since the referendum. Given that at the first meet...

Lord Callanan | 789 c234 (Link to this contribution)

I do not have information about how many official meetings have taken place. I understand that of...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 789 c234 (Link to this contribution)

Given the difficulties, which are understood, of getting agreement to one legislative consent Mot...

Lord Callanan | 789 c234 (Link to this contribution)

I am not quite sure I understand that point. I do not think we can give that assurance at the mom...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 789 c234 (Link to this contribution)

What happens if there is no agreement tomorrow? Will the Government’s amendment, the one that the...

Lord Callanan | 789 c234 (Link to this contribution)

As I said, we will be bringing forward the amendment at the same time that Members of this House ...

Lord Elystan-Morgan | 789 c235 (Link to this contribution)

In order that the Joint Ministerial Committee should enjoy its full status, does the Minister acc...

Lord Callanan | 789 c235 (Link to this contribution)

I understand the noble Lord’s question. I am not a member of the committee; it is handled not by ...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 789 cc235-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a valuable debate—up until the reply. I have been in this House now for 1...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 789 c236 (Link to this contribution)

Does the noble Lord not realise how absurd he looks, arguing that if these powers remained in Bru...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 789 c236 (Link to this contribution)

If they are going to be transferred back to the UK, then I am; that is obviously the case. But it...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 789 c236 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath

8: Clause 1, page 1, line 3, at end insert—

“...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 789 cc236-9 (Link to this contribution)

Follow that, my Lords. If the theme of my noble friend’s previous debate was frustration, the wor...

Lord Broers | 789 c239 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will be very brief. I did not speak at Second Reading because I thought that the deci...

Lord Warner | 789 cc239-240 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise as a co-signatory of Amendment 8, moved by the noble Lord, Lord Hunt. I do not w...

Viscount Trenchard | 789 cc240-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this issue is not quite as simple as the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, claimed. I too was pres...

Lord Warner | 789 c241 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to interrupt the noble Viscount’s flow, but does he remember that the Government voted...

Viscount Trenchard | 789 c242 (Link to this contribution)

I am not familiar with the amendment which was voted down in the Commons. I believe it is perfect...

Lord Teverson | 789 cc242-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am also a signatory to this amendment, and I thank the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, for hav...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 789 cc243-6 (Link to this contribution)

I agree entirely with what has been said already by the noble Lords, Lord Hunt, Lord Warner and L...

Lord Adonis | 789 c246 (Link to this contribution)

Could the noble Lord address the issue raised by the noble Lord, Lord Teverson, about the notice ...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 789 c246 (Link to this contribution)

If I could be allowed an ad majorem argument, I would recommend to noble Lords an article written...

Lord Whitty | 789 cc246-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have two amendments which are grouped with Amendment 8. I am afraid that they probabl...

Earl of Selborne | 789 c247 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think it is important on these Benches to put in a word of support for the amendment ...

Lord Liddle | 789 cc247-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support what the noble Earl, Lord Selborne, said, and the other speakers who called f...

Baroness Altmann | 789 c249 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support these amendments and echo the words of the noble Lords, Lord Hunt, Lord Warne...

Lord Judd | 789 cc249-250 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, like my noble friend Lord Liddle I live in Cumbria and these issues are central for the...

Lord Adonis | 789 c250 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there are 101 reasons why people voted for or against leaving the European Union. As th...

Viscount Trenchard | 789 c250 (Link to this contribution)

I certainly said that Euratom was not the marvellous organisation that it is made out to be. I ac...

Lord Adonis | 789 c251 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is not part of the human condition to think that institutions are marvellous. They c...

Lord Callanan | 789 c251 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, once again I thank noble Lords for an excellent debate on this important issue. I will ...

Lord Liddle | 789 c251 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister mentioned that it was a parallel European institution. Before we gave that notice, d...

Lord Callanan | 789 c251 (Link to this contribution)

It is not a matter of getting a political opinion on this. It is the legal position, as I have se...

Lord Liddle | 789 c252 (Link to this contribution)

When you say it is the legal position, what is the evidence for that? Can we have a look at that ...

Lord Elton | 789 c252 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hope the noble Lord will remember that we address the House and not individuals. It a...

Lord Warner | 789 c252 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister resumes, can I pursue this issue? The industry is very clear in its legal vie...

Lord Callanan | 789 cc252-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there has been extensive discussion and liaison between ourselves and industry. I will ...

Lord Carlile of Berriew | 789 c255 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for the explanation that he has given on the issue of medical isoto...

Lord Callanan | 789 c255 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid I do not have those figures to hand. I cannot tell him how many meetings there have b...

Lord Callanan | 789 c255 (Link to this contribution)

I can say that there has been extensive dialogue and discussion with both our EU partners and int...

Lord Warner | 789 c255 (Link to this contribution)

Could the Minister respond to a question before he moves on to the important amendment by the nob...

Lord Callanan | 789 c256 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry that the noble Lord no longer believes in Father Christmas. I think there will be a wa...

Lord Adonis | 789 c256 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, with respect, the Minister has not answered either of the two questions I put to him. H...

Lord Callanan | 789 c256 (Link to this contribution)

I can tell him that we are not going to withdraw our notification.

Lord Adonis | 789 c256 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, with respect, that is not the question I asked him. I asked him what is the Government’...

Lord Callanan | 789 c256 (Link to this contribution)

I have given the noble Lord the answer he is going to get on that subject.

Lord Adonis | 789 c256 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, with respect, that is not a good enough answer. When we return to this at Report, I fea...

Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 789 cc256-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, even at this late hour, we have had a good go at the issue. Seeing so many noble Lords ...

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