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Financial Guidance and Claims Bill [HL]

Debate on bills on Tuesday, 24 October 2017, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Sharkey. The answering members were Baroness Buscombe and Lord McKenzie of Luton.
Lords report stage first day. Clause 2 discussed. Amendments 3, 5 to 7 of Clause 2 agreed to. Amendment 1 to Clause 2 agreed to on division (263 to 208). Amendment 2 to Clause 2 agreed to on division (253 to 205). Amendment 12 to Clause 2 disagreed on division (80 to 167). Consideration of report adjourned. Part 1 of 2.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

785 cc849-903 

Session

2017-19

Legislative stage

Report stage

Procedure

Government defeats

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber
Financial Guidance and Claims Bill (HL) 2017-19
Thursday, 22 June 2017
Bills
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord Sharkey | 785 c849 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Sharkey

1: Clause 2, page 2, line 12, at end insert—

“( ) the con...

Lord Sharkey | 785 cc849-852 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 1 I will also speak—eventually—to Amendments 2 and 7. They form a l...


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Earl of Kinnoull | 785 cc851-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name was added to the three amendments. I declare my interests as set out in the reg...

Viscount Brookeborough | 785 c853 (Link to this contribution)

I was on the Financial Exclusion Committee. When we talk about targeting the vulnerable, it is no...

Lord Faulks | 785 c853 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I join this debate relatively late and I hope the House will forgive my intervention. I...

Viscount Trenchard | 785 cc853-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I understand the motives of the noble Lord, Lord Sharkey, and other noble Lords in seek...

Baroness Kramer | 785 cc854-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I can be helpful on a couple of the points just raised by the noble Viscount, L...

Lord Faulks | 785 c855 (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Baroness sits down, will she clarify one thing? She was critical of my suggestio...

Baroness Kramer | 785 c855 (Link to this contribution)

I thought that we could only speak once on Report, but I hope that the House will excuse me if I ...

Lord Elystan-Morgan | 785 cc855-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am full of respect for and sympathy with the amendments and the spirit in which they ...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 785 c857 (Link to this contribution)

I would like to ask whether the “direct approaches” referred to in proposed subsection (3E) need ...

Lord Sharkey | 785 c857 (Link to this contribution)

That would fall within the ambit of the consumer protection function of the SFGB.

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Lord Kirkwood of Kirkhope | 785 c857 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will be quick, as the House obviously wants to make progress on this. As a former bus...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 785 cc857-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I start by thanking the noble Lord, Lord Sharkey, for his comprehensive introduction of...

Baroness Buscombe | 785 cc858-861 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in this important debate with which we begi...

Lord Rooker | 785 c862 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am sorry to interrupt, and I have listened to the whole debate, but how can a Governm...

Baroness Buscombe | 785 c862 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I beg to differ. Despite the noble Lord’s extensive experience in another place, it is ...

Baroness Kramer | 785 c862 (Link to this contribution)

I think the Minister distinctly said that she was considering a ban being introduced in the Commo...

Baroness Buscombe | 785 cc862-3 (Link to this contribution)

I have already made it clear, as we did in Committee, that we intend to bring forward a ban on pe...

Baroness Kramer | 785 c863 (Link to this contribution)

This amendment is in scope. It allows the banning not only of cold calling, but of a broader rang...

Baroness Buscombe | 785 c863 (Link to this contribution)

That is why I am making it clear that banning pensions cold calling is out of scope of this Bill,...

Lord Skelmersdale | 785 c863 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before my noble friend sits down, she has given a commitment to legislate, or move an a...

Baroness Buscombe | 785 c864 (Link to this contribution)

I am very grateful to my noble friend for clarifying that point.

Lord Sharkey | 785 c864 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken in this debate. I am particularly grat...

Lord Sharkey | 785 c864 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Sharkey

2: Clause 2, page 2, line 18, at end insert—

“(3A) In exe...

Lord Sharkey | 785 c864 (Link to this contribution)

I wish to test the opinion of the House.

Baroness Buscombe | 785 c864 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Buscombe

3: Clause 2, page 2, line 19, after “public,” insert “free...

Baroness Buscombe | 785 c872 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before turning to Amendment 3, it may be helpful to the House if I were to say now that...

Baroness Drake | 785 cc872-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support and very much welcome these government amendments. I thank the Minister for t...

Baroness Kramer | 785 c873 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I join in thanking the Minister for bringing these amendments forward. I think she reco...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 785 c873 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness for making the statement she did at the Dispatch Box at the ...

Baroness Drake | 785 c873 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Drake

4: Clause 2, page 2, line 21, at end insert “including by mea...

Baroness Drake | 785 cc874-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the intent of Amendment 4 is to require that the introduction of a pensions dashboard s...

Baroness Kramer | 785 c875 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I congratulate the noble Baroness, Lady Drake, on such an extraordinarily comprehensive...

Baroness Altmann | 785 cc875-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too congratulate the Government on their decision to host the pensions dashboard and ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 785 c877 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too thank the Government for the announcement that the dashboard is to be taken forwa...

Baroness Buscombe | 785 cc877-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment, tabled by the noble Baroness, Lady Drake, is identical to the one table...

Baroness Drake | 785 c879 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for her reply. I tabled my amendment for two reasons: the...

Baroness Buscombe | 785 c879 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Buscombe

5: Clause 2, page 2, line 22, after “England,” insert “fre...

Baroness Buscombe | 785 cc879-880 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Sharkey

7: Clause 2, page 2, line 27, at end insert—

“( ) The con...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 785 c880 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord McKenzie of Luton

8: Clause 2, page 2, line 28, after “support” insert ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 785 cc880-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will also speak to Amendment 17. Together, these amendments revisit the issue that we...

Baroness Kramer | 785 cc881-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I was glad to add my name to Amendment 8, moved by the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie of Lut...

Viscount Trenchard | 785 c882 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, nobody in this House would disagree with the idea that we must do as much as possible t...

Baroness Tyler of Enfield | 785 cc882-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise briefly to add my strong support for the amendments. In so doing, I apologise to...

Lord Young of Cookham | 785 cc883-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the co-pilot is in charge for this leg of the journey. I take this opportunity to addre...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 785 cc885-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his reply which does not surprise me in great detail. May I st...

Lord Young of Cookham | 785 c886 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I can reassure the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie. Of course, the SFGB is going to work closel...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 785 c886 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord for that clarification. The amendment does not suggest that the single bod...

Lord Young of Cookham | 785 c886 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord may be tempting me to say something beyond my pay grade about what is in order at ...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 785 c887 (Link to this contribution)

Clearly, the Minister is a safe pair of hands in the cockpit. I thank him for that. I am grateful...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 785 c887 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

9: Clause 2, page 2, line 32, after “children” i...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 785 cc887-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak also to Amendment 10 in this group. We may repeat some of the ground that ...

Baroness Kramer | 785 c889 (Link to this contribution)

Obviously, we support these amendments. The Government’s argument has always been that this issue...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 785 c889 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson, for his very important comments in introducing ...

Lord Young of Cookham | 785 cc889-891 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in response to the comments of the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson, about the propulsion ava...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 785 c890 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful to the noble Lord for his comments and for dealing with such speed w...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 785 c890 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff

11: Clause 2, page 2, line 32, at end insert—

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 785 cc890-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to those who have put their names to Amendment 11: my noble friends Lady ...

Baroness Coussins | 785 cc892-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have added my name to Amendment 11. I remind noble Lords of my interest as president ...

Baroness Hollins | 785 cc893-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am pleased to add my support for this amendment. My own particular interest relates t...

Baroness Kramer | 785 c894 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we on these Benches would gladly have added our names to this amendment but the list wa...

Baroness Altmann | 785 cc894-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I add my support for the amendment and congratulate the Cross Benches and the noble Lor...

Lord Kirkwood of Kirkhope | 785 c895 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, following that speech from the noble Baroness, Lady Altmann, I support these amendments...

Viscount Brookeborough | 785 cc895-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, could I just look at one other aspect of vulnerability? It is looked on as being a disa...

Baroness Drake | 785 cc896-7 (Link to this contribution)

I will carry on the spirit of the contribution of the noble Lord, Lord Kirkwood. In Committee, se...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 785 c897 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a good debate. I emphasise that we support the amendment, which is no sur...

Baroness Buscombe | 785 cc897-900 (Link to this contribution)

I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in this extremely helpful debate. A number of issues ...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 785 c900 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to the Minister, particularly for those final phrases in her speech, and to al...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 785 c900 (Link to this contribution)

I just want to press the point made by the noble Baroness about Third Reading. If we could come b...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 785 c900 (Link to this contribution)

Through being able to come back at Third Reading, we have the assurance that we can tailor the Bi...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 785 c901 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord McKenzie of Luton

12: Clause 2, page 2, line 32, at end insert—

“...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 785 c901 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the amendment revisits the now familiar theme of creating awareness of scams and fraud ...

Baroness Buscombe | 785 cc902-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie, for tabling the amendment. I think we can all ag...

Lord McKenzie of Luton | 785 c903 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for the very full explanation that the Minister has given to the point th...

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