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Wales Bill

Debate on bills on Tuesday, 10 January 2017, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth.
Lords report stage second day. Part 1 of 2.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

777 cc1864-1921 

Session

2016-17

Department

Wales Office

Legislative stage

Report stage

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber
Wales Bill 2016-17. Brought from the Commons.
Tuesday, 13 September 2016
Bills
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee fifth report.
Wednesday, 19 October 2016
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee tenth report.
Wednesday, 14 December 2016
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Wales Bill
Tuesday, 10 January 2017
Parliamentary proceedings
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 777 c1864 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in the absence of my noble friend Lord Bourne, I propose that the House do adjourn for ...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 777 c1864 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth

72A: After Clause 17, insert the following new Cl...


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Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 777 cc1864-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, first, I apologise humbly and unreservedly to the whole House for not being here when t...

Baroness Morgan of Ely | 777 cc1866-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wish the Minister a happy new year. It is extremely good news that the Welsh Governme...

Lord Wigley | 777 cc1869-1872 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am glad to follow the noble Baroness in addressing these questions. First, let me say...

Lord Hain | 777 cc1873-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will address Amendment 143A standing in my name and that of my noble friends Lord Kin...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 777 cc1875-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to speak briefly to Amendment 80 in the group to which I have added my name. The...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 777 cc1876-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I apologise for the absence of the noble Baroness, Lady Randerson, who is heavily engag...

Lord Crickhowell | 777 c1877 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I had not intended to intervene but I am prompted to do so by one or two things that ha...

Lord Rowlands | 777 cc1877-9 (Link to this contribution)

I shall speak to Amendment 74, proposed by the noble Lord, Lord Wigley, to continue to clarify th...

Lord Kinnock | 777 cc1879-1881 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall follow on from my noble friend Lord Rowlands on the issue of the apprenticeship...

Lord Murphy of Torfaen | 777 cc1881-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as a co-signatory to my noble friend Lord Hain’s amendment, I support everything that m...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 777 cc1882-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords who have participated in the debate on the amendments in this group...

Lord Rowlands | 777 c1883 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise for interrupting the Minister but can he publish exactly which public bodies, which l...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 777 cc1883-4 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure I can and I will make endeavours to do so. Clearly, this is related to the way in which...

Lord Murphy of Torfaen | 777 c1884 (Link to this contribution)

Is it not the case, though, that the state aid argument would apply equally in Scotland and North...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 777 c1884 (Link to this contribution)

The rules certainly apply equally throughout the EU but you have to establish that there is a com...

Lord Kinnock | 777 c1884 (Link to this contribution)

I say to the Minister as a matter of record that I would gladly continue with the situation of th...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 777 c1885 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hear what the noble Lord says. I think he would accept that it is a case of defining ...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 777 c1885 (Link to this contribution)

It sounds as if the Minister, in winding up on the airport aspect, is dismissing the arguments we...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 777 cc1885-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if I may say so, that is a somewhat unfair caricature of what I am saying. I am saying ...

Baroness Morgan of Ely | 777 c1886 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Morgan of Ely

75: Clause 3, page 2, line 31, after “7A)” insert “an...

Baroness Morgan of Ely | 777 cc1886-1890 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there are a number of huge and very different amendments to be considered in this group...

Lord Wigley | 777 cc1890-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we are again dealing with a very disparate group of amendments. Amendments 76 and 77, w...

Lord Elystan-Morgan | 777 cc1892-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendment 78. However, before so doing, I want to say first how deli...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 777 cc1894-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is always a great pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Elystan-Morgan. As I have ...

Lord Hain | 777 cc1895-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, how to follow that? I shall speak to Amendment 90 in my name and in those of my noble f...

Lord Morris of Aberavon | 777 c1899 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will confine myself to Amendment 78 in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Elystan-Morga...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 777 cc1899-1900 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have Amendment 82 in this group. It is a question, as my noble friend Lord Elystan-Mo...

Lord Balfe | 777 c1900 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to say a few words about Amendment 90. I will not stray into the internal ...

Lord Hain | 777 c1900 (Link to this contribution)

I acknowledge that the noble Lord represents Conservative trade unionists, which must be a noble ...

Lord Balfe | 777 c1900 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord for his intervention, but I am sure that there would be plenty of room for...

Baroness Morgan of Ely | 777 c1901 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the point is that under the conferred powers model of governance at the moment, we alre...

Lord Balfe | 777 c1901 (Link to this contribution)

Well, some see it as that. I see it as a clarification that was needed—something that became quit...

Lord Elis-Thomas | 777 cc1901-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will make clear my strong support for Amendment 90, for the reasons that have been ma...

Lord Elystan-Morgan | 777 c1902 (Link to this contribution)

Does my friend, the noble Lord, Lord Elis-Thomas, accept that whatever might be said about the pu...

Lord Elis-Thomas | 777 c1902 (Link to this contribution)

I appreciate being given the authority of Professor Dicey but the real situation is that these is...

Baroness Finn | 777 c1903 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak against Amendment 90 in the names of the noble Lord, Lord Hain, the noble Baron...

Lord Kinnock | 777 c1904 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there are many issues on which I find myself in agreement with the noble Lord, Lord Bal...

Lord Balfe | 777 c1904 (Link to this contribution)

I wonder if the noble Lord recalls our jointly campaigning on the Welsh referendum in the 1970s. ...

Lord Kinnock | 777 cc1904-5 (Link to this contribution)

No, it is the definition of the fact that when confronted with reality, I try to make it work. Co...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 777 c1905 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who participated in the discussion on these amendments. I will ...

Lord Wigley | 777 c1905 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister. He will see that my amendment in fact applies to subsection (2)(c)...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 777 cc1905-1910 (Link to this contribution)

I appreciate that, but I think the noble Lord made a broader point about “ancillary to” not being...

Baroness Morgan of Ely | 777 c1910 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not wish to detain the House for too long. We have spent a lot of time on this gro...

Lord Elystan-Morgan | 777 c1910 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Elystan-Morgan

78: After Clause 3, insert the following new Clause—

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Lord Elystan-Morgan | 777 c1910 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall beg leave to withdraw the amendment, but at the same time I want to—

Lord Brougham and Vaux | 777 c1910 (Link to this contribution)

Are you withdrawing the amendment, or do you want to speak to it?

Lord Elystan-Morgan | 777 c1910 (Link to this contribution)

With the leave of the House, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 777 c1910 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth

78A: Schedule 1, page 52, line 30, at end insert—...

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 777 c1910 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Thomas of Gresford

81: Schedule 1, page 59, leave out lines 11 to 15

Lord Thomas of Gresford | 777 c1912 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have already spoken to this amendment and do not intend to say anything further excep...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 777 c1912 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth

81A: Schedule 1, page 59, line 13, after “to” ins...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 777 c1912 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth

83: Schedule 1, page 61, line 3, at end insert—

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 777 c1915 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth

85A: Schedule 1, page 67, line 11, after “licensi...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 777 c1915 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth

87A: Schedule 1, page 70, line 34, at end insert—...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 777 c1915 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth

89A: Schedule 1, page 72, line 25, at end insert—...

Lord Hain | 777 c1915 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Hain

90: Schedule 1, page 76, line 3, at end insert—

“Terms and c...

Lord Hain | 777 c1915 (Link to this contribution)

I beg to test the opinion of the House.

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 777 c1916 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth

90A: Schedule 1, page 81, line 25, at beginning i...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 777 c1916 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth

91A: Schedule 1, page 82, line 25, after “railway...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 777 c1916 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth

92A: Schedule 1, page 82, leave out line 29 and i...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 777 c1920 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth

93A: Schedule 1, page 82, line 34, at end insert—...

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth | 777 cc1920-1 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth

104C: Schedule 2, page 88, line 23, at end insert...

Lord Brougham and Vaux | 777 c1916 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there being an equality of votes, in accordance with Standing Order 56, which provides ...

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