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Policing and Crime Bill

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Session

2016-17

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Home Office

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House of Lords chamber
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee third report.
Wednesday, 6 July 2016
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee fourth report.
Friday, 9 September 2016
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Legislative scrutiny: (1) Children and Social Work Bill; (2) Policing and Crime Bill; (3) Cultural Property (Armed Conflicts) Bill. Human Rights Joint Committee third report.
Wednesday, 12 October 2016
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
House of Commons
Policing and Crime Bill 2015-16 to 2016-17. As amended in Committee.
Wednesday, 16 November 2016
Bills
House of Lords

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Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee eighth report.
Wednesday, 30 November 2016
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2016-0980
Tuesday, 20 December 2016
Deposited papers
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 c738 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen

120: Clause 84, page 109, line 33, leave out “or...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 c738 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Section 32 of the Police (Northern Ireland) Act 2000 limits police jurisdiction through...


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Lord Paddick | 777 cc738-740 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the Minister has just said, my noble friend Lady Hamwee and I have Amendment 122A in...

Lord Blair of Boughton | 777 c740 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is an unusual pleasure for me to agree completely with the noble Lord, Lord Paddick....

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 cc740-1 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Paddick, has again argued for the maritime enforcement powers in the Bill to...

Lord Paddick | 777 c741 (Link to this contribution)

Can the Minister explain what happens at the moment if a summary-only offence is committed, for e...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 c741 (Link to this contribution)

I think that I will have to get back to the noble Lord on that point.

Lord Blair of Boughton | 777 c741 (Link to this contribution)

This is about the difference between a bus, a train and a ship. The ability to stop a ship and pu...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 c741 (Link to this contribution)

The police are professionals and they must have operational discretion as to when to exercise the...

Viscount Slim | 777 c741 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am rather disappointed about the police in this situation. Certainly in my life, juni...

Lord Paddick | 777 c741 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am glad that I brought back this amendment, if only to hear the noble Lord, Lord Blai...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 c742 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen

121: Clause 84, page 110, line 5, leave out “or ...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 c742 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen

122: Clause 85, page 110, line 10, leave out “or...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 c742 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen

123: Clause 93, page 114, leave out lines 40 and...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 c742 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen

124: Clause 96, page 117, line 12, leave out “or...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 c743 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen

126: Clause 97, page 117, line 35, leave out “or...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 c743 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen

127: Clause 104, page 121, leave out lines 35 an...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 cc743-8 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen

128: After Clause 104, insert the following new ...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 c748 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen

137: Clause 105, page 123, line 29, leave out fr...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 c748 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Chapter 7 of Part 4 of the Bill closes a gap in cross-border powers by providing for ur...

Lord Rosser | 777 c748 (Link to this contribution)

I just raise one question on these amendments, although I readily accept that, perhaps if I had r...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 c748 (Link to this contribution)

No, this is just closing the gap that we realised was there earlier on. It is not new.

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 c749 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen

138: Clause 105, page 126, line 43, at end inser...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 cc749-750 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen

141: Schedule 16, page 344, line 30, at end inse...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 c750 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen

149: After Clause 106, insert the following new ...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 c750 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen

150: After Clause 107, insert the following new ...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 cc750-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, these amendments respond to an amendment tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Dear, in Commit...

Lord Dear | 777 c751 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment. I remind the House that I tabled much the same amendment in Co...

Lord Campbell of Pittenweem | 777 c751 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name was on the original amendment but I was unable to take part in Committee becaus...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 cc751-4 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Williams of Trafford

151: Schedule 17, page 350, line 42, leave out...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 cc754-5 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Williams of Trafford

156: After Clause 109, insert the following ne...

Lord Rosser | 777 c755 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Rosser

157: After Clause 110, insert the following new Clause—

“P...

Lord Rosser | 777 cc755-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the purpose of this amendment and its associated new clause is to establish the princip...

Viscount Hailsham | 777 cc757-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I regret to say that I cannot support this proposed new clause, although I have a great...

Lord Blair of Boughton | 777 c758 (Link to this contribution)

I support the noble Viscount, Lord Hailsham, on that point. However, given that this is Report, I...

Lord Dear | 777 c758 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I can be very brief and agree entirely with the last two speakers. The sentiment behind...

Lord Hunt of Chesterton | 777 c758 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment tabled by my noble friend. I speak as a scientist. I tabled a Q...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 777 cc758-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, many years ago the “Marchioness” inquiry had to have a second coroner’s inquest. The pa...

Lord Paddick | 777 cc759-760 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment proposed by the noble Lord, Lord Rosser, taking into account th...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 777 c760 (Link to this contribution)

I think that if the Government agree that the matter can be reconsidered at Third Reading, it doe...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 cc760-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not doubt the sincerity of the intentions behind this amendment. The new clause co...

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard | 777 c761 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister sits down, I would like to be quite clear. Is she rejecting the wise advice f...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 c761 (Link to this contribution)

I am not disagreeing with anything that noble Lords have said. I have said that, in the light of ...

Lord Rosser | 777 cc761-2 (Link to this contribution)

I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in this debate and will just make one or two comments on ...

Lord Mackay of Clashfern | 777 c762 (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Lord sits down, I draw attention to the fact that if in due course this amendmen...

Lord Rosser | 777 c762 (Link to this contribution)

I can only invite the Minister to say whether the Government will indicate that they accept that ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 c763 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Williams of Trafford

159: Clause 111, page 132, line 22, leave out ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 cc763-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the government amendments in this group seek to improve the provisions in Part 6 of the...

Earl Attlee | 777 c767 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support these amendments, and I am particularly grateful for Amendments 166 to 169 an...

Baroness Mallalieu | 777 c767 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too thank the Minister for introducing Amendment 169A on the lending of a firearm by ...

Lord Rosser | 777 cc769-770 (Link to this contribution)

Before speaking to my Amendment 169B, I would like further clarification of government Amendment ...

Viscount Hailsham | 777 cc770-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to make a declaration of interest, in that I hold a shotgun certificate an...

Lord Paddick | 777 c771 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 169B in the names of the noble Lords, Lord Rosser and Lord Kennedy ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 cc771-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I may first deal with some of the questions that have arisen out of Amendment 1...

Viscount Hailsham | 777 c774 (Link to this contribution)

My noble friend was good enough to say she would write to me and I am grateful. Would she include...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 c774 (Link to this contribution)

I certainly will. I would be very careful before going to my noble friend’s house, given the guns...

Lord Rosser | 777 c774 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure the Minister’s response was clear but I did not hear it properly: did she say that the ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 c774 (Link to this contribution)

I just pointed out that we are both frustrated about this matter and that the Policing Minister w...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 c774 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Williams of Trafford

160: Clause 111, page 132, line 26, at end ins...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 c774 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Williams of Trafford

163: Clause 112, page 133, line 25, leave out ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 c775 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Williams of Trafford

166: Clause 114, page 135, leave out line 35 a...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 cc775-6 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Williams of Trafford

169A: After Clause 115, insert the following n...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 c776 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Williams of Trafford

170: Clause 119, page 139, line 16, leave out ...

Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe | 777 c777 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe

171A: Clause 120, page 140, line 6, at end insert...

Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe | 777 cc777-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in Committee I endeavoured to remove the Government’s redefinition of “alcohol” in the ...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 777 c778 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it might help the House if I explain why the noble Lord, Lord Brooke, and I view this a...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 777 cc778-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as this is the first time I have spoken on Report, I should quickly declare that I am a...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 cc779-780 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I remind the House that Clause 120 amends the definition of alcohol in Section 191 of t...

Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 777 c780 (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Baroness sits down, will she undertake to ask the ACMD to put this issue on its ...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 c780 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness for that question. Home Office officials have discussed powdered alcoh...

Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe | 777 c780 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay, for her support and expertise, and to my noble ...

Lord Clement-Jones | 777 c780 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Clement-Jones

172: After Clause 126, insert the following new Clause—

Lord Clement-Jones | 777 cc780-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 172 would create a fifth licensing objective that licensing authorities must ...

Earl of Clancarty | 777 cc782-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 172, which has been excellently introduced by the noble Lord, Lord ...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 777 c783 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we debated this issue in Committee. Many years ago, I was a member of the licensing com...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 cc783-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 172 seeks to add,

“the provision of social or cultural activities”

<...
Lord Clement-Jones | 777 cc784-5 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for her response and the noble Earl, Lord Clancarty, for his contribution. O...

Baroness Deech | 777 c785 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Deech

173: After Clause 126, insert the following new Clause—

Baroness Deech | 777 cc785-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am sorry to say that the noble Baroness, Lady Campbell, whose name is also on this am...

Lord Shinkwin | 777 cc787-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 173. I will not rehearse the arguments about the details of the ame...

Baroness Thomas of Winchester | 777 c788 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the powerful speech of the noble Lord, Lord Shinkwin. As the...

Baroness Hamwee | 777 cc788-9 (Link to this contribution)

We support the amendment from these Benches. I congratulate those who tabled it on their persiste...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 777 c789 (Link to this contribution)

I support the amendment not because I am disabled but because like most of our population I am ge...

Lord Foster of Bishop Auckland | 777 cc789-790 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment. I was a member of the ad hoc Select Committee so ably chaired ...

Lord Low of Dalston | 777 c790 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to deal briefly with the argument that the amendment is not necessary because it...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 777 cc790-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 173, moved by the noble Baroness, Lady Deech, adds to the general duties of l...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 cc791-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Baronesses, Lady Deech and Lady Thomas of Winchester, not only for th...

Baroness Deech | 777 c792 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I know that the Minister is sympathetic, but I still find the arguments unpersuasive. T...

Lord Beecham | 777 c793 (Link to this contribution)

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Lord Beecham

173B: After Clause 126, insert the following new Clause—

...

Lord Beecham | 777 cc793-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I refer to my interests as a Newcastle City councillor and vice-president of the Local ...

Bishop of Bristol | 777 cc796-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 173C, 196A and 200A in my name and I support Amendment 173B,...

Baroness Howe of Idlicote | 777 cc799-800 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very pleased to speak in support of Amendments 173B and 173C in the names of the n...

Lord Rosser | 777 cc800-1 (Link to this contribution)

We certainly support the objectives of these amendments. As there was in Committee, there have be...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 cc801-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the noble Lord, Lord Beecham, has explained, these amendments would have the effect ...

Lord Beecham | 777 c803 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for her reply. At one stage I thought about asking her ho...

Baroness Berridge | 777 c803 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Berridge

174: After Clause 127, insert the following new Clause—

Baroness Berridge | 777 cc803-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendment 175. Amendments 174 and 175, in outline, seek to reduce...

Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb | 777 c804 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support both Amendments 174 and 175. I rise slightly wearily because I do not know, a...

Baroness Hollins | 777 cc804-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak briefly to the evidence. An analysis was done in Switzerland comparing bot...

Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe | 777 cc807-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am pleased to add my support to the two amendments of the noble Baroness, Lady Berrid...

Earl Attlee | 777 cc808-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I oppose these amendments. I attended the meeting yesterday with my noble friend Lady B...

Lord Paddick | 777 c809 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in response to similar amendments in Committee, the Minister pointed out that reduced d...

Viscount Simon | 777 c809 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will mention just a couple of things. First, in the Serious Organised Crime and Polic...

Lord Rosser | 777 c809 (Link to this contribution)

Unfortunately, I was not able to get to the meeting that was organised yesterday but, bearing in ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 777 cc810-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lady Berridge for explaining the reasoning behind these amendme...

Baroness Berridge | 777 cc811-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to noble Lords who supported this amendment and particularly to the noble...

Lord Moynihan | 777 cc812-4 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Moynihan

176: After Clause 127, insert the following new Clause—

...

Lord Moynihan | 777 cc814-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, when athletes choose to cross the doping line, they enter a dark and amoral underworld ...

Lord Kerr of Kinlochard | 777 c815 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord speaks with passion and from great knowledge of this matter. I defer to that. I am...

Lord Addington | 777 cc815-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too support the noble Lord’s intention. I have a less subtle criticism of the wording...

Lord Campbell of Pittenweem | 777 cc819-820 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall not endeavour to emulate the comprehensive approach of the noble Lord, Lord Moy...

Lord Rosser | 777 cc820-2 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Moynihan, referred to Her Majesty’s Opposition. I make it clear to him that ...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 cc822-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a great honour to be in the presence of two such world-renowned athletes. Their L...

Lord Moynihan | 777 cc823-4 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to all noble Lords who took part in this debate. I hope it is not too mischievous t...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 c824 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen

177: Clause 132, page 152, line 8, at end insert...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 c825 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, financial sanctions are an important foreign policy and national security tool. Their e...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 777 cc825-6 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen

178: Clause 141, page 158, line 29, leave out “a...

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