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Policing and Crime Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Wednesday, 2 November 2016, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage (third day, part two). Clauses 82, 93-94, 104-105, as amended, agreed to. Clauses 83-92, 95-103, 106-111, agreed to.

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Reference

776 cc722-760 

Session

2016-17

Department

Home Office

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber
Policing and Crime Bill 2015-16 to 2016-17
Tuesday, 14 June 2016
Bills
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2016-0855
Tuesday, 22 November 2016
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2016-0862
Wednesday, 23 November 2016
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2016-0888
Thursday, 1 December 2016
Deposited papers
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 776 c722 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen

196: Clause 82, page 106, line 4, leave out para...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 776 c723 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, government Amendments 196, 199, 200 and 201 are essentially consequential on the provis...


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Lord Rosser | 776 c723 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Rosser

196A: Clause 82, page 106, line 8, at end insert—

“( ) The...

Lord Rosser | 776 cc723-4 (Link to this contribution)

We have two amendments in this group to which I wish to speak. Clause 82 relates to the applicati...

Baroness Hamwee | 776 cc724-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my noble friend and I have four amendments in the group. With regard to Amendment 196A,...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 776 c725 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise notionally to support my noble friend Lord Rosser and his amendment, but first I...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 776 c725 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord already has the answer apparently.

Lord Paddick | 776 c726 (Link to this contribution)

Section 66 of the Metropolitan Police Act was repealed on the basis of the powers to stop and sea...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 776 c726 (Link to this contribution)

Well, my Lords, it just shows how marvellous this House is. We have experts who can always answer...

Lord Rosser | 776 c726 (Link to this contribution)

My concern was that “or elsewhere” might be used in cases involving foreign ships which are disco...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 776 cc726-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, inspiration has appeared from over my left shoulder. The maritime provisions of the Bil...

Lord Rosser | 776 c728 (Link to this contribution)

I certainly will withdraw the amendment. Unless I was not paying as much attention as I should ha...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 776 c728 (Link to this contribution)

On the noble Lord’s first point, these powers are necessary to enable the categories of law enfor...

Lord Rosser | 776 c728 (Link to this contribution)

Is there any clarification—or perhaps the Minister could write to me subsequently—of what was sai...

Lord Rosser | 776 c729 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister very much indeed. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Lord Paddick | 776 c729 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Paddick

196B: After Clause 88, insert the following new Clause—

“...

Lord Paddick | 776 c729 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 196B is in my name and that of my noble friend Lady Hamwee. As we have just b...

Baroness Chisholm of Owlpen | 776 cc729-730 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as the noble Lord, Lord Paddick, has explained, Amendment 196B seeks to limit the exerc...

Lord Paddick | 776 c730 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister. The reason why this should apply in the case of these maritime pow...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 776 c730 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Williams of Trafford

199: Clause 93, page 111, line 29, at end inse...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 776 c731 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Williams of Trafford

200: Clause 94, page 113, line 26, leave out p...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 776 c731 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Williams of Trafford

201: Clause 104, page 118, line 23, at end ins...

Earl Attlee | 776 c731 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Earl Attlee

201A: After Clause 104, insert the following new Clause—

“...

Earl Attlee | 776 cc731-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Committee will recognise that there are legal limits regarding the size and weight ...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 776 c734 (Link to this contribution)

I think the noble Earl raises an interesting point—I feel that I have learned something. I am not...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 776 cc734-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I begin by declaring that I am not the owner of a tank-carrying vehicle and I therefore...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 776 c735 (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Baroness sits down—and I should say that I am not the owner of a tank either—I d...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 776 c735 (Link to this contribution)

What I have said is that the order specifies that the notice must be in a form that is acceptable...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 776 c735 (Link to this contribution)

Are we saying that it would be acceptable if they insisted on receiving only a letter? That seems...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 776 c735 (Link to this contribution)

No, an online application may be acceptable, an email may be acceptable, pigeon post may be accep...

Earl Attlee | 776 c735 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my first question for my noble friend the Minister is, why is an email not acceptable?<...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 776 c735 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it has to be acceptable to the recipient—an email may not be acceptable to the recipien...

Earl Attlee | 776 c736 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it rather seems as if my noble friend cannot explain to the Committee why it is accepta...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 776 c736 (Link to this contribution)

I think what is coming from my left is probably what I was going to say anyway, which is that it ...

Earl Attlee | 776 c736 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for that reply but she seems to be struggling on the point of why a police f...

Baroness Hamwee | 776 c736 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I cannot say that I have followed every detail of this, but the noble Earl seems to be ...

Earl Attlee | 776 c736 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness is absolutely right: the underlying problem that I tried to explain in my poor...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 776 c737 (Link to this contribution)

I apologise to my noble friend. I was attempting to be self-deprecating rather than teasing him. ...

Earl Attlee | 776 c737 (Link to this contribution)

I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 776 cc737-9 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Williams of Trafford

201B: Clause 105, page 121, line 14, leave out...

Lord Dear | 776 c739 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Dear

201SA: After Clause 107, insert the following new Clause—

“P...

Lord Dear | 776 cc739-740 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is with some trepidation that I drag your Lordships’ attention from the interesting ...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 776 cc740-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Dear, has raised a potentially important issue, and I think he is ...

Lord Dear | 776 c741 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, can I just put on the record what Section 60AA(2) of the 1994 Act says? To the best of ...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 776 c741 (Link to this contribution)

Briefly, I agree with my noble friend Lord Harris of Haringey, that the noble Lord, Lord Dear, ha...

Lord Paddick | 776 c741 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I did not intend to speak on this matter but the issues the noble Lord, Lord Harris of ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 776 c742 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Paddick, is right that the permission in writing can be given after the even...

Lord Dear | 776 c742 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, at this late hour I am grateful for the contributions that have been made. I am encoura...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 776 cc742-752 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Williams of Trafford

201T: Before Schedule 15, insert the following...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 776 cc752-3 (Link to this contribution)

I do not intend to hold things up, nor am I necessarily expecting that the Minister will be able ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 776 c753 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it seems like ages ago but I remember the debate and I remember what I thought at the t...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 776 c753 (Link to this contribution)

Will there be a response on that point?

Lord Rosser | 776 cc753-4 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Rosser

202: After Clause 110, insert the following new Clause—

“P...

Lord Rosser | 776 cc754-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment and its associated new clause seek to establish the principle of parity ...

Lord Paddick | 776 c755 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise briefly to support the amendment to which I have added my name. I declare an int...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 776 cc755-7 (Link to this contribution)

I speak to my amendment in this group, which is similar except in terms of who ends up paying. I ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 776 cc757-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I believe that we all sympathise with the intention of the amendment. These new clauses...

Lord Harris of Haringey | 776 cc758-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before my noble friend responds, could we first have clarity as to the scope and terms ...

Baroness Williams of Trafford | 776 c759 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Government will see and respond to Bishop Jones’s review in due course. He is consi...

Lord Rosser | 776 cc759-760 (Link to this contribution)

I thank all noble Lords who have participated in this debate and the Minister for her response. I...

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