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Bus Services Bill [HL]

Lords committee stage third day. Clauses 9 to 26 agreed to, with clauses 9, 14, and 18 agreed to as amended. Schedule 4 agreed to as amended. Bill, as amended, ordered to be printed (HL Bill 58).

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2016-17

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Bus Services Bill (HL) 2016-17
Thursday, 19 May 2016
Bills
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee first report.
Wednesday, 15 June 2016
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee second report.
Wednesday, 6 July 2016
Parliamentary committees
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Deposited Paper DEP2016-0659
Monday, 25 July 2016
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Bus Services Bill (HL) 2016-17. As amended in Committee.
Wednesday, 20 July 2016
Bills
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2016-0670
Thursday, 4 August 2016
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Proceeding contributions

Baroness Brinton | 774 c654 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Brinton

83A: Clause 9, page 36, line 39, at end insert—

“(3A)...

Baroness Brinton | 774 cc654-6 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Baroness, Lady Campbell of Surbiton, sends her apologies but following the change of da...


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Lord Snape | 774 cc656-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Baroness raises an important point which should not be overlooked in the cour...

Baroness Brinton | 774 cc657-8 (Link to this contribution)

I talked about the bus conduct regulations of 1990, because they give the facility for the driver...

Lord Snape | 774 c658 (Link to this contribution)

I well understand that; I just wonder how we can resolve it by legislation. It is easy for us in ...

Lord Judd | 774 c658 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, these are helpful and constructive amendments but, as with all amendments of this kind,...

Baroness Randerson | 774 cc658-660 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendments in the names of the noble Baronesses, Lady Brinton and Lady Ca...

Lord Low of Dalston | 774 c660 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I take the point of the noble Lord, Lord Judd, that measures to benefit disabled people...

Lord Low of Dalston | 774 cc660-1 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful for that—we are in complete accord.

I put my name to Amendment 126 in th...

Lord Berkeley | 774 c661 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support most of the speeches made in support of this amendment. I am not sure that I ...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 774 cc661-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment tabled by the noble Baronesses, Lady Campbell and Lady Brinton....

Lord Judd | 774 c663 (Link to this contribution)

I would like to pick up something that my noble friend has said. I hope that in her concern to br...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 774 cc663-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have taken part in this extremely important debate on a par...

Lord Snape | 774 c664 (Link to this contribution)

Let me be the first to congratulate the noble Lord. Having invited him to come to see the buses i...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 774 cc664-5 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure there is a film about that—“Planes, Trains and Automobiles”—and I am sure we will have ...

Baroness Thomas of Winchester | 774 c665 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I may interrupt the noble Lord for one minute to ask whether disabled people th...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 774 cc665-7 (Link to this contribution)

I will come to that point in a moment and I thank the noble Baroness for her intervention. I agre...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 774 c667 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful for the response from the Minister and I am sure we would all appreciate ...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 774 c668 (Link to this contribution)

This is important, so I will put my words into a letter for all noble Lords’ consideration. Howev...

Baroness Brinton | 774 c668 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his considered response and for the progress that has been mad...

Lord Low of Dalston | 774 c668 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister write to us all and not just the noble Baroness, Lady Jones, about the applicat...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 774 c668 (Link to this contribution)

Of course. I am pleased to give that reassurance. Implicit in most of the discussions we have had...

Baroness Brinton | 774 c669 (Link to this contribution)

I also thank the Minister for his helpful letters and assistance with meetings over the past few ...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 774 c669 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Viscount Younger of Leckie

84: Clause 9, page 37, line 21, leave out “a rela...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 774 c669 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it falls to me to present myself as a change of driver at this point, and I will speak ...

Lord Berkeley | 774 c669 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Berkeley

84A: Clause 9, page 37, line 23, at end insert—

“(7A) An...

Lord Berkeley | 774 cc669-670 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 84A I shall speak also to Amendment 84B, which is also in my name. ...

Baroness Randerson | 774 c670 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall address Amendments 85 and 86 tabled in my name. Once again these amendments are...

Lord Shipley | 774 cc670-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendment tabled by my noble friend Lady Randerson. It may to appear to b...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 774 c671 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as this is the first time I have spoken in Committee today I draw the Committee’s atten...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 774 cc671-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords for their contributions during this short debate. When we discu...

Lord Berkeley | 774 c673 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for that short answer, which was useful clarification. I shall stud...

Earl Attlee | 774 c673 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Earl Attlee

87: Clause 9, page 39, line 31, at end insert—

“(6A) The r...

Earl Attlee | 774 cc673-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment would add an additional subsection to the list of requirements for an en...

Baroness Randerson | 774 cc674-5 (Link to this contribution)

Before I speak to the amendments in my name, I will contribute to the debate on the amendment of ...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 774 c675 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the first amendment in this group was moved by the noble Earl, Lord Attlee. It is not a...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 774 cc675-7 (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords who have spoken on this group of amendments. An enhanced partnership scheme i...

Earl Attlee | 774 c677 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend for the response and to all noble Lords who have spoke...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 774 c677 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon

90: Clause 9, page 40, line 39, leave out “enhanced ...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 774 c677 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Kennedy of Southwark

91: Clause 9, page 42, line 29, at end insert—

...
Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 774 cc677-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 91 is in my name and that of my noble friend Lady Jones of Whitchurch. It see...

Baroness Randerson | 774 cc678-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 93, which is in my name, states:

“Once consulted, the Competition and M...

Lord Berkeley | 774 cc679-680 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I would like to discuss Amendment 93. The noble Baroness has done the Committee a servi...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 774 cc680-2 (Link to this contribution)

I assure the noble Lord, Lord Berkeley, that I am in comforting mode, and I hope that I have refl...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 774 c681 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in this short debate. I will reflect on the Min...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 774 c681 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon

100: Clause 9, page 46, line 8, leave out “made by” ...

Lord Berkeley | 774 c681 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Berkeley

111A: Clause 11, page 60, line 10, at end insert—

“(3A) ...

Lord Berkeley | 774 c683 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before I move Amendment 111A, I would like to put on record that I do not understand pa...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 774 c683 (Link to this contribution)

I support my noble friend Lord Berkeley in these two amendments. I look forward to the Minister’s...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 774 cc683-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall take Amendment 111A first. It would require the traffic commissioner to take ac...

Lord Berkeley | 774 c684 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the Minister for that explanation. It takes two to tango, and I suspect that the...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 774 c684 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Viscount Younger of Leckie

112: Clause 14, page 63, line 21, leave out from ...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 774 cc684-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 112, 113, 114, 115, 116, 117, 118, 119, 120 and 127. I will ...

Baroness Garden of Frognal | 774 c685 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have to inform the Committee that if Amendment 112A is agreed to, I cannot call Amend...

Lord Berkeley | 774 c685 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very grateful for the Minister’s explanation. This is another occasion when I am s...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 774 cc685-6 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Viscount Younger of Leckie

113: Clause 14, page 63, line 28, leave out from ...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 774 c686 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch

121: Clause 14, page 66, line 5, at end insert—...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 774 c687 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment builds on the concept of a community asset, as identified in the Localis...

Baroness Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville | 774 cc687-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support Amendment 121 in the names of the noble Lord, Lord Kennedy, and the noble Bar...

Lord Snape | 774 cc689-690 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have every sympathy with this amendment, although I doubt its practicality. I do not ...

Earl Attlee | 774 c690 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I completely concur with everything that the noble Lord, Lord Snape, has said, apart fr...

Lord Snape | 774 c690 (Link to this contribution)

Of course there is not a bottomless pit of public money. It is for the Government to decide the p...

Lord Berkeley | 774 cc690-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is difficult to agree with everyone on this point. In response to my noble friend Lo...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 774 cc691-2 (Link to this contribution)

I know that, as has been said, local bus services are very important to our local communities. As...

Baroness Jones of Whitchurch | 774 cc692-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his response and those noble Lords who have supported my amend...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 774 c693 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Viscount Younger of Leckie

123: Schedule 4, page 81, line 17, at end insert—...

Viscount Younger of Leckie | 774 c693 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, an enhanced partnership will enable the local authority to examine bus services in its ...

Lord Berkeley | 774 c694 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Berkeley

123A: After Clause 16, insert the following new Clause—

...

Lord Berkeley | 774 c694 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I beg to move Amendment 123A It would insert a new clause, “Passenger representation”, ...

Lord Whitty | 774 cc694-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to support the principle of the amendment that my noble friend Lord Berkeley has...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 774 c695 (Link to this contribution)

Amendment 123A, moved by my noble friend Lord Berkeley, is one that I am delighted to support. As...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 774 cc695-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as has been said by those noble Lords who have contributed to this short debate, this i...

Lord Berkeley | 774 c696 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to all noble Lords who have taken part in this short debate and the Minister for hi...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 774 c696 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Kennedy of Southwark

124: Clause 17, page 67, line 43, at end insert—

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 774 cc696-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 124 in my name and that of my noble friend Lady Jones of Whitchurch would inc...

Baroness Randerson | 774 c697 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak to Amendment 125 in my name, which as the noble Lord, Lord Kennedy, has ju...

Lord Snape | 774 cc697-8 (Link to this contribution)

I support my noble friend on Amendment 124. I asked the Minister previously to come to Birmingham...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 774 cc698-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, an important element of the Bill is the availability of journey planning and informatio...

Lord Berkeley | 774 c699 (Link to this contribution)

When the noble Lord responded to my amendment about punctuality and so on, he said that those mat...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 774 cc699-700 (Link to this contribution)

Certainly the discussions that we have had to date reflect exactly what the noble Lord has articu...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 774 c700 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord for his response. The debate has covered a wide variety of issue...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 774 c700 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon

127: Clause 18, page 69, line 24, after “commissione...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 774 cc700-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Clause 21 has been mentioned a few times during the passage of the Bill and it certainl...

Baroness Randerson | 774 cc701-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name is attached to this amendment and I strongly support the purpose behind it. As ...

Lord Whitty | 774 c702 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, most has already been said by my colleagues on the Front Bench. This clause sticks out ...

Earl Attlee | 774 cc702-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I very much support the inclusion of Clause 21 in the Bill, so I cannot support the nob...

Lord Shipley | 774 c703 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I could not agree less with the noble Earl, Lord Attlee, on this matter. The grounds th...

Lord Berkeley | 774 cc703-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my reading of this clause is that even those authorities that are running bus services ...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 774 c704 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it was all going so well. I am of course deeply hurt that the noble Baroness suggested ...

Baroness Randerson | 774 c704 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure the Minister accepts that I applied those adjectives to the clause, not to him.

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 774 cc704-5 (Link to this contribution)

Of course—I was only teasing. I understand and appreciate that. During the course of Committee th...

Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 774 c705 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord very much for his response. As I said, he has been very courteous and help...

Baroness Randerson | 774 c705 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Randerson

127A: After Clause 21, insert the following new Clause—

Baroness Randerson | 774 cc705-7 (Link to this contribution)

Amendment 127A in my name would insert a new clause after Clause 21 that would cover essentially ...

Earl Attlee | 774 c707 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have always had concerns about the fuel efficiency argument that the noble Baroness s...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 774 cc707-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as a Minister, one gets used to looking in front of one and not behind. I apologise to ...

Baroness Randerson | 774 c708 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for his comments. I say to the noble Earl, Lord Attlee, that I acknowledge t...

Lord Whitty | 774 c708 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Whitty

128: Before Clause 22, insert the following new Clause—

“N...

Lord Whitty | 774 c709 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendment 128 calls for a strategy for the bus sector to be part of the Bill. It is fai...

Lord Berkeley | 774 c709 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support my noble friend’s Amendment 128 and will speak very briefly to my two amendme...

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon | 774 cc709-710 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am not sure you can have a Clause 0, can you? I bow to the wide expertise around the ...

Lord Whitty | 774 cc710-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am a bit disappointed by the Minister’s response. Yes, the Bill is about providing ne...

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