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Lords committee stage fourth day. Clause 14 agreed to. Part 1 of 2.

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2015-16

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Baroness Wheeler | 769 cc400-1 (Link to this contribution)

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Baroness Wheeler

92: Clause 14, page 11, line 8, leave out from beginning to...

Baroness Wheeler | 769 cc401-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak to the seven amendments in the group and the clause stand part Motion from the ...


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Lord Balfe | 769 cc405-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak in particular to Amendment 93, which is in my name, but will also make a g...

Lord Kerslake | 769 cc409-411 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendments in this group, particularly those in the name of the noble Lor...

Baroness Burt of Solihull | 769 cc410-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I concur completely with the comments made by the noble Lords, Lord Kerslake and Lord B...

Lord Lea of Crondall | 769 cc412-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, before I come to the specifics of Amendment 94, it is fair to say that these Benches ec...

Lord Tebbit | 769 c413 (Link to this contribution)

Where does the noble Lord get his 20% figure from? What surveys has he done? Why does he think th...

Lord Lea of Crondall | 769 c414 (Link to this contribution)

I have talked to many unions in the public sector, and that is the sort of feedback I get. It is ...

Lord Brooke of Alverthorpe | 769 c414 (Link to this contribution)

I might be able to help the noble Lord, Lord Tebbit. If he checks with the Prison Officers’ Assoc...

Lord Lea of Crondall | 769 cc414-5 (Link to this contribution)

The Government imply, without ever spelling out anybody specifically, that they have support for ...

Lord Cormack | 769 c416 (Link to this contribution)

Does the noble Lord realise that he has now spoken for 18 minutes and we are still waiting for hi...

Lord Lea of Crondall | 769 c416 (Link to this contribution)

With great respect to the noble Lord, Lord Cormack, I think that many of my colleagues will think...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 769 cc416-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, perhaps I could be allowed a brief intervention—I was not making a particular point abo...

Lord Deben | 769 c417 (Link to this contribution)

I am sure my noble friend will agree that I could not be characterised in quite the way in which ...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 769 cc417-8 (Link to this contribution)

There we are: we have the entire spectrum of the Conservative Party in agreement on this matter. ...

Lord Beecham | 769 cc418-420 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is quite an exceptional pleasure to follow the speeches of two distinguished Members...

Lord Cormack | 769 cc420-1 (Link to this contribution)

It is certainly no cherry orchard, is it, my Lords? I am delighted to support my noble friend Lor...

Baroness Donaghy | 769 cc421-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have three amendments in this group and I give my full support to the amendment of my...

Lord Stoneham of Droxford | 769 cc422-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am fearful of keeping noble Lords from their lunch, but I have several points that ha...

Lord Balfe | 769 c423 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I point out that Baroness Williams, who has just departed from us, continued to pay due...

Lord Stoneham of Droxford | 769 c423 (Link to this contribution)

I think it needs such sources of money at the moment.

Another issue that has not been raise...

Lord Monks | 769 cc423-4 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I can help the Minister to join the consensus on how awful the clause is by stressing one...

Lord Campbell-Savours | 769 c424 (Link to this contribution)

I put to the Minister a question that she might consider before she comes to the Box. She will ha...

Lord Sawyer | 769 cc424-5 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lords, Lord Balfe and Lord Kerslake, for their contributions and particularly w...

Lord Leigh of Hurley | 769 c425 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I approach this from a slightly different angle. I looked at the Bill for the first tim...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 769 c425 (Link to this contribution)

Does my noble friend appreciate that some people on some very low incomes may not have bank accou...

Lord Leigh of Hurley | 769 c426 (Link to this contribution)

I would be very interested to know the number of those people. Clearly, the numbers have changed ...

Lord Cormack | 769 c426 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, but we are concerned about every individual. Even if it is only a few hundred people, surely...

Lord Leigh of Hurley | 769 c426 (Link to this contribution)

Of course, exceptions can be made for a few hundred, if it is a few hundred, as with others. But ...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 769 c426 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to my noble friend. I have no idea what the numbers are, but it will be more t...

Lord Leigh of Hurley | 769 c426 (Link to this contribution)

I am not sure the noble Lord knows my particular social circle, but I took the figure of a few hu...

Lord Cormack | 769 c426 (Link to this contribution)

The point I was making was that even if it is only a tiny number, why are we doing this?

Lord Leigh of Hurley | 769 c426 (Link to this contribution)

Yes, I thank the noble Lord—I have taken the point. The point that I was making was that the dire...

Lord Judd | 769 c426 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a fascinating debate, and I have begun to feel a bit sorry for the Minist...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 769 c427 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Wheeler, for her clear, comprehensive and relatively s...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 769 c427 (Link to this contribution)

I suspect that if it was starting now, rather than 100 years ago, things would be different becau...

Baroness Wheeler | 769 c427 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister said she would be clear and objective. Will she state what evidence she has been giv...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 769 c427 (Link to this contribution)

I think we have set out clearly in our impact assessment and elsewhere the way things are going. ...

Lord Collins of Highbury | 769 c427 (Link to this contribution)

I shall give the Minister a simple fact. She talked about Tesco. She was part of a partnership ar...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 769 c427 (Link to this contribution)

I think check-off existed for a number of years at Tesco, long before I arrived. We had the partn...

Lord Mendelsohn | 769 c427 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister has been very clear about the notion that there is evidence of the direction of trav...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 769 c428 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord is right in saying that the direction of travel is driven by digital change—I am n...

Lord Monks | 769 c428 (Link to this contribution)

I remind the Minister about workplace pensions. They are a very recent auto-enrolment initiative....

Earl of Courtown | 769 c428 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not wish to be discourteous to the Committee in any way, but there have been five ...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 769 cc428-9 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my noble friend. We are debating check-off in relation to Clause 4. The Public a...

Lord Mendelsohn | 769 c430 (Link to this contribution)

I am finding difficult the suggestion that there is now some prescription that direct debit is th...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 769 c430 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the noble Lord makes a fair point. Having said that, the growth of direct debit in lots...

Lord Beecham | 769 c430 (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister explain why it is deemed necessary to impose a new arrangement on two parties, ...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 769 c430 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the difference is that the cost falls on the public sector.

Lord Beecham | 769 c430 (Link to this contribution)

But the premise—the burden of the amendments that we are discussing—is there would be no cost to ...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 769 cc430-1 (Link to this contribution)

The answer is that I think the impact assessment says there is a cost of £7.2 million. I was seek...

Lord Cormack | 769 c431 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am very sorry to interrupt, as we have had a long debate. I make an appeal to the Min...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 769 c431 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble friend for his intervention. I have said from the very beginning that we are li...

Lord Campbell-Savours | 769 c431 (Link to this contribution)

Could the Minister answer this question, which I have great difficulty in understanding? Why is i...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 769 c431 (Link to this contribution)

I have already sought to answer this question. Deductions for things like pensions, childcare vou...

Lord Collins of Highbury | 769 c431 (Link to this contribution)

It is a long time ago for me but I remember that part, if not all, of the subscription for craft ...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 769 c432 (Link to this contribution)

I am not sure I entirely understand the point. If I may, I will reflect on it.

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 769 c432 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry—I am irritating my noble friend by intervening. I am just worried about this principle...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 769 c432 (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend. I am not making any commitments about government policy in any of these ...

Baroness Wheeler | 769 cc432-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank the Minister for her response. This has been a powerful, detailed and consensua...

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