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Lords committee stage first day. Clause 3 agreed to. Part 2 of 2.

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768 cc2064-2110 

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2015-16

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Trade Union Bill 2015-16. Brought from the Commons.
Wednesday, 11 November 2015
Bills
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee fifteenth report.
Wednesday, 2 December 2015
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Trade Union Bill
Monday, 8 February 2016
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Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee twentieth report.
Wednesday, 3 February 2016
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Proceeding contributions

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 768 c2064 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Wallace of Saltaire

2: Clause 3, page 2, line 3, leave out “the majorit...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 768 cc2064-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Amendments 2 and 9, in my name, have a simple aim: to bring into alignment the standard...


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Lord Dykes | 768 c2066 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will be brief. I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Wallace of Saltaire, on his speech...

Lord King of Bridgwater | 768 cc2066-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have great respect for the noble Lord, Lord Wallace, which is always a warning, in th...

Lord McAvoy | 768 c2067 (Link to this contribution)

Can the noble Lord give us the percentage of the people in the United Kingdom who voted Tory at t...

Lord King of Bridgwater | 768 cc2067-8 (Link to this contribution)

That is the great fallacy. I have heard the argument about 50%, but that is the point I am addres...

Lord King of Bridgwater | 768 c2068 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I could just finish the sentence. Are they saying, “We will ignore the interests of all t...

Lord Mendelsohn | 768 c2068 (Link to this contribution)

Does the noble Lord therefore favour the 50% threshold applying only to the public sector and not...

Lord King of Bridgwater | 768 c2068 (Link to this contribution)

The answer to the first question is no. The second I will need to think about, as it is far too c...

Lord Oates | 768 cc2068-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I speak in support of my noble friend Lord Wallace of Saltaire. I must say that I follo...

Lord Monks | 768 cc2069-2070 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the point I took from the speech made by the noble Lord, Lord Wallace, was less on the ...

Lord King of Bridgwater | 768 c2070 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps the doctors got a round of applause because the patients were so pleased to see that they...

Lord Balfe | 768 c2070 (Link to this contribution)

It is good occasionally to get up on this side of the House and remember why I am on the Conserva...

Lord Dykes | 768 c2070 (Link to this contribution)

Does the noble Lord agree that the aspiration for sensible governance of any country is for the n...

Lord Balfe | 768 c2071 (Link to this contribution)

I think we are straying a little, but I am happy to talk to the noble Lord afterwards about diffe...

Lord Sawyer | 768 cc2071-2 (Link to this contribution)

As a Member who has led many strikes, I have some experience of what it takes to make one success...

Lord Balfe | 768 c2072 (Link to this contribution)

Can I point out to the noble Lord that people always say nice things about you when you are dead?...

Lord Sawyer | 768 c2072 (Link to this contribution)

That is not a matter that can be proved. Clearly, those of us who know about employer relations i...

Baroness Burt of Solihull | 768 c2072 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall not detain the Committee for too long, but I want to talk about Clause 3 standi...

Lord Collins of Highbury | 768 cc2072-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the fact that there is a manifesto commitment to both 50% and 40% does not release the ...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 768 c2074 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the ability of union members to strike is an important part of our industrial relations...

Lord Collins of Highbury | 768 c2074 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister used the term “monopolies”. Is that true of London bus drivers? Do they have a monop...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 768 c2076 (Link to this contribution)

I think I used the phrase “effectively monopolies”. The point is that the degree of choice is ver...

Lord Mendelsohn | 768 c2076 (Link to this contribution)

There is a difference between “any” disruption and the situation the Minister talked about earlie...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 768 c2076 (Link to this contribution)

I do not entirely understand the question. I think the thresholds are clear. We are proposing the...

Lord Mendelsohn | 768 c2076 (Link to this contribution)

I am happy to clarify. The Minister made the point that where a particular service is a monopoly—...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 768 cc2076-7 (Link to this contribution)

I still do not really understand the point. I shall come on to give some examples that may be hel...

Lord Oates | 768 c2077 (Link to this contribution)

Can the Minister address a bit further the issue of the perverse impacts of an abstention being s...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 768 c2077 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord has answered his own question. Our reforms ensure that strike action does not take...

Lord Oates | 768 c2077 (Link to this contribution)

Does the Minister seriously think that it would be a sensible situation for the Government to get...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 768 cc2077-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is always possible to talk about individual examples. In a minute, I will explain so...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 768 c2079 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a very disappointing debate. First, I am struck that all references to st...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 768 c2079 (Link to this contribution)

I will listen to the noble Lord in a minute. My message is simply this. This is intended to make ...

Lord King of Bridgwater | 768 c2080 (Link to this contribution)

I did not realise that these were alternatives. When the noble Lord asks what we should do about ...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 768 c2080 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have not seen the poll so I shall go and discover what the situation is. We have give...

Lord Balfe | 768 c2080 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord is a very good example of a sinner who repents. I have happy memories of him stand...

Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 768 c2080 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment.

Lord Collins of Highbury | 768 c2080 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Collins of Highbury

3: Clause 3, page 2, line 5, after “engaged” insert...

Lord Collins of Highbury | 768 cc2080-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this debate is on what certain “important public services” mean in terms of not just th...

Lord Stoneham of Droxford | 768 cc2083-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a very serious issue when you diminish somebody’s right to withdraw their labour....

Lord Balfe | 768 c2084 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will ask the Minister a question. I believe we are going to have tremendous difficult...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 768 cc2084-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, as I have already explained, strike action in services that people rely on every day ca...

Lord Collins of Highbury | 768 c2086 (Link to this contribution)

Yet the argument is made that ticket offices are not needed any more; they are closing them and T...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 768 cc2086-7 (Link to this contribution)

I think we all feel that the plight and the needs of the disabled and elderly are important, but ...

Lord Oates | 768 c2087 (Link to this contribution)

The Minister said that the reason the rules were not being applied to private schools was because...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 768 c2087 (Link to this contribution)

I think the arrangements on nuclear decommissioning are still under consideration. I can certainl...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 768 c2087 (Link to this contribution)

But surely all the private schools—or as you call them in England, public schools—are even more i...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 768 cc2087-8 (Link to this contribution)

I am very sorry to disappoint the noble Lord but there is no evidence of strike action in those i...

Lord Oates | 768 c2088 (Link to this contribution)

I am sorry to intervene again but the Minister is simply wrong in this matter. As she mentioned, ...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 768 c2088 (Link to this contribution)

I am afraid that we will have to disagree on that point.

Lord King of Bridgwater | 768 c2088 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord, Lord Oates, ought to have listened more carefully to the noble Lord, Lord Pannick...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 768 cc2088-9 (Link to this contribution)

My noble friend has kindly made the point that I was about to make about the noble Lord, Lord Pan...

Lord Collins of Highbury | 768 c2089 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for her response. For the avoidance of doubt, I reassure the noble Lord, Lor...

Lord Mendelsohn | 768 c2089 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Mendelsohn

6: Clause 3, page 2, line 6, leave out from “services” to en...

Baroness Morgan of Ely | 768 c2089 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Morgan of Ely

16: Clause 3, page 2, line 21, at end insert—

“...

Baroness Morgan of Ely | 768 cc2089-2092 (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords for that lovely welcome. The amendments in this group explore the impacts of ...

Baroness Randerson | 768 cc2093-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak to all the amendments in this group, both those in my name and those in...

Lord Hain | 768 cc2094-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I refer to the register of interests. The amendments tabled by my noble friend Lady Mor...

Lord Wigley | 768 c2098 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have put my name to this amendment.

Lord Balfe | 768 c2098 (Link to this contribution)

We have not had a speaker from this side yet.

Earl of Courtown | 768 c2098 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, shall we hear from my noble friend Lord Balfe?

Lord Balfe | 768 cc2098-9 (Link to this contribution)

I shall be brief. I begin where the noble Lord, Lord Hain, ended, which is with the leaked letter...

Earl of Courtown | 768 c2099 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think that it is the turn of the noble Lord, Lord Wigley, whose name is added to the ...

Lord Wigley | 768 cc2099-2101 (Link to this contribution)

What about Scotland, indeed? I will not trouble the Committee by going down that avenue. First, I...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 768 cc2101-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we have heard four powerful and eloquent pleas from Wales. I hope it is now possible ju...

Lord McAvoy | 768 cc2103-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have some class acts to follow from this side of the Committee on the case that has b...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 768 cc2104-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords for the debate and note the passion that has been expressed. I am p...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 768 c2107 (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister closes the debate, she has not dealt with my suggestion, which comes from the...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 768 c2107 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in the tradition of this House, I do not want to close the debate without saying that w...

Baroness Morgan of Ely | 768 cc2107-8 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister and noble Lords who have contributed to this debate. I am sure the Minister ...

Lord Balfe | 768 cc2108-9 (Link to this contribution)

Tabled by

Lord Balfe

22: After Clause 3, insert the following new Clause—

“Ball...

Lord Balfe | 768 c2110 (Link to this contribution)

I am a bit lost, as I thought that we had gone past that section. Anyway, the amendment is not mo...

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