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Scotland Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Tuesday, 8 December 2015, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage first day. Clauses 3, 5 to 7, 9 to 12 agreed to. Clauses 4 and 8 agreed to as amended. Part 2 of 2.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

Reference

767 cc1524-1556 

Session

2015-16

Department

Scotland Office

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords chamber
Scotland Bill 2015-16. Brought from the Commons.
Tuesday, 10 November 2015
Bills
House of Lords
Scotland Bill. Constitution Committee (HL) sixth report.
Friday, 20 November 2015
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee fifteenth report.
Wednesday, 2 December 2015
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Scotland Bill
Tuesday, 8 December 2015
Parliamentary proceedings
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 767 cc1524-5 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock

21: After Clause 2, insert the following new Clause—...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 767 cc1525-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if I may plagiarise Monty Python:

“And now for something completely different”.


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Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 767 c1526 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord twice mentioned cost but has not told us how much this would cost.

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 767 cc1526-8 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord knows the price of everything but the value of nothing. The value of this is that ...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 767 c1528 (Link to this contribution)

This is the moving of an amendment in Committee. We have Report and later stages coming up, and b...

Earl of Kinnoull | 767 cc1528-9 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to make a few brief comments on a very thought-provoking summary from the noble ...

Lord Lyell | 767 cc1529-1530 (Link to this contribution)

I am fascinated by the marvellous remarks of the noble Lord, Lord Foulkes. I was interested that ...

Lord Maxton | 767 c1530 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I remember that “Monty Python” always finished with the words, “And now for something c...

Baroness Adams of Craigielea | 767 c1531 (Link to this contribution)

On the point about the Scottish Parliament: if there were to be a senate, does my noble friend en...

Lord Maxton | 767 c1531 (Link to this contribution)

That is a very good point. I look forward to my noble friend Lady Adams tabling an amendment to m...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 767 c1531 (Link to this contribution)

I have to say I am astonished that the noble Lord, Lord Foulkes, should move this amendment at th...

Lord Maxton | 767 c1531 (Link to this contribution)

I have to ask the Lord whether he actually believed in being a politician, democratically elected...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 767 cc1531-2 (Link to this contribution)

To deal with the point about politicians, after I left the House of Commons in 1997—or was asked ...

Lord McCluskey | 767 cc1532-3 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I may be brief. I made points in my Second Reading speech which the noble Lord, Lord Ly...

Lord Purvis of Tweed | 767 cc1533-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it was fairly dispiriting to come back into the Chamber and to see our archaic language...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 767 c1534 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not want to take up any more time on this issue. However, I remind the noble Lord,...

Lord Norton of Louth | 767 cc1534-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, for similar reasons, I will keep my comments brief, not least since I see that the targ...

Lord McAvoy | 767 cc1536-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lord Foulkes of Cumnock for bringing this forward. I cannot hel...

Lord Keen of Elie | 767 c1537 (Link to this contribution)

As the noble Lord, Lord Foulkes, might appreciate, I am increasingly conscious that the robust sc...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 767 c1538 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I start with an apology to the noble and learned Lord, Lord Keen, for my irritation ear...

767 c1538 (Link to this contribution)

Lord Selkirk of Douglas.

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 767 cc1538-9 (Link to this contribution)

Thank you. The noble Lord, Lord Selkirk of Douglas, was also a Member of the Scottish Parliament....

Earl of Dundee | 767 cc1539-1540 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

The Earl of Dundee

22: After Clause 2, insert the following new Clause—

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Earl of Dundee | 767 cc1540-1 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this amendment, if adopted, would enable the Secretary of State to prepare a report wit...

Earl of Kinnoull | 767 cc1541-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am attracted by the thinking behind this amendment. I remind your Lordships of a few ...

Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 767 c1542 (Link to this contribution)

I will just intervene, rather than make a speech. I agree absolutely with the noble Earl and with...

Earl of Kinnoull | 767 c1542 (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Lord: I had heard that. It is an endemic issue. With the squirrel acco...

Earl of Lindsay | 767 c1543 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, strongly support this amendment. If I have a quarrel with it, it is that I do n...

Lord Lang of Monkton | 767 cc1543-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I congratulate my noble friend Lord Dundee on the very attractive sentiments that he ex...

Lord Sanderson of Bowden | 767 c1544 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, support the noble Earl’s amendment but I agree that it does not go nearly far e...

Lord McAvoy | 767 cc1544-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, thank the noble Earl and congratulate him on his amendment. I will be relativel...

Lord Keen of Elie | 767 c1545 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am obliged to the noble Earl for putting forward this amendment. As your Lordships ar...

Earl of Dundee | 767 cc1545-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all of your Lordships for your kind support for this amendment, starting with t...

Lord Keen of Elie | 767 c1546 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Keen of Elie

24: Clause 4, page 4, leave out lines 18 to 20

Lord Keen of Elie | 767 cc1546-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Clauses 3 to 10 devolve full powers to the Scottish Parliament in respect of the regist...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 767 c1547 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean

26: After Clause 5, insert the following new Clause...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 767 c1547 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am conscious of the late hour but I would like to move Amendment 26. As we have alrea...

Lord Keen of Elie | 767 c1547 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I note the reasoning behind the amendment proposed by the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth. At ...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 767 cc1547-8 (Link to this contribution)

I have to say to my noble and learned friend that I do not think that that is a very satisfactory...

Lord McAvoy | 767 c1548 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, on this occasion we cannot support the proposal in the amendment of the noble Lord, Lor...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 767 c1548 (Link to this contribution)

Is the noble Lord really saying that it could possibly be acceptable for a devolved legislature, ...

Lord McAvoy | 767 c1548 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, when you have devolution, you have devolution. The noble Lord poses a potential situati...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 767 c1548 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord will recall that we already extended the life of the Scottish Parliament from four...

Lord McAvoy | 767 c1548 (Link to this contribution)

I really do not think that is a fair comparison.

Lord Keen of Elie | 767 c1549 (Link to this contribution)

I first apologise to the noble Lord, Lord McAvoy. I had not appreciated that he intended to speak...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 767 c1549 (Link to this contribution)

On my noble and learned friend’s reference to the European convention, what constitutes a reasona...

Lord Keen of Elie | 767 c1549 (Link to this contribution)

That would be a matter for the Scottish Parliament to determine, and is subject to review. If it ...

Lord Keen of Elie | 767 c1549 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Keen of Elie

27: Clause 8, page 10, line 33, leave out “In paragraphs 3...

Lord McCluskey | 767 c1550 (Link to this contribution)

Tabled by

Lord McCluskey

29: Clause 11, page 12, line 5, leave out from “heading” to ...

Lord McCluskey | 767 c1550 (Link to this contribution)

This is a technical matter, and it is not worth taking up time on it at this time of night. Accor...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 767 c1550 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Hope of Craighead

30: Clause 11, page 12, line 9, leave out “decision w...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 767 cc1550-1 (Link to this contribution)

This is one of a group of amendments running through to Amendment 40. Although Amendments 31 and ...

Lord Stephen | 767 cc1551-2 (Link to this contribution)

I rise to speak to Amendments 31 and 34, which are in my name and that of my noble and learned fr...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 767 c1552 (Link to this contribution)

Before the noble Lord sits down, could he deal with the reasons why he is not content to rest on ...

Lord Stephen | 767 c1552 (Link to this contribution)

I was as interested as the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth, to hear that that was the justification for ...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 767 c1552 (Link to this contribution)

Again, before he sits down, could the noble Lord confirm that it is not because he has always bee...

Lord Stephen | 767 c1552 (Link to this contribution)

At this late hour, I am happy to confirm almost anything to the noble Lord.

Lord McCluskey | 767 c1552 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in view of the terms of Amendment 33, I shall not be moving Amendment 32.

Lord Davidson of Glen Clova | 767 c1552 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a brief and helpful debate about the question of the supermajority. We do...

Lord Keen of Elie | 767 cc1553-4 (Link to this contribution)

I am obliged to noble Lords. Clearly I cannot comment on any dialogue that the noble and learned ...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 767 c1554 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment in view of the points that have been made by the ...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 767 c1554 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean

36: Clause 11, page 12, line 29, leave out from “un...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 767 c1554 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the hour is late, but I will say just a few words in respect of this amendment, which, ...

Lord Keen of Elie | 767 cc1554-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, Clause 11 requires certain types of electoral legislation to be passed by a two-thirds ...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 767 c1555 (Link to this contribution)

My noble and learned friend’s only argument has been, once again, to rest on the Smith commission...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 767 c1555 (Link to this contribution)

The noble Lord said that he is not to be taken as approving the precise terms of the Bill as a la...

Lord Forsyth of Drumlean | 767 c1555 (Link to this contribution)

I am most grateful to the noble and learned Lord for making that clarification. It is important t...

Lord Hope of Craighead | 767 c1556 (Link to this contribution)

Tabled by

Lord Hope of Craighead

41: Clause 12, page 14, line 6, at end insert—

Lord Hope of Craighead | 767 c1556 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not propose to develop this amendment. Without going into the reasons for it, it a...

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