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Welfare Reform and Work Bill

Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bills on Monday, 7 December 2015, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Freud.
Lords committee stage first day. Clause 11 under consideration. Part 1 of 3.

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2015-16

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Welfare Reform and Work Bill 2015-16. Brought from the Commons.
Wednesday, 28 October 2015
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Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee thirteenth report.
Wednesday, 18 November 2015
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Welfare Reform and Work Bill
Monday, 7 December 2015
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Tuesday, 22 December 2015
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Proceeding contributions

Bishop of Portsmouth | 767 c1317 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

The Lord Bishop of Portsmouth

1: Clause 11, page 13, line 11, after “person,...

Bishop of Portsmouth | 767 cc1317-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my concerns about this measure, along with those of other faith groups and organisation...


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Baroness Sherlock | 767 cc1318-1321 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendments 16 and 17 in my name and that of my noble friend Lord McK...

Baroness Manzoor | 767 c1321 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we on these Benches also agree with kinship care as an adoption exemption. According to...

Earl of Listowel | 767 cc1321-2 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name is attached to Amendments 1 and 16 in this group. First, can I make an apology ...

Baroness Armstrong of Hill Top | 767 c1322 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I, too, support these amendments, although as I have a debate tomorrow in the dinner br...

Baroness Drake | 767 cc1323-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I support the amendments in this group, because Clause 11 removes eligibility for the c...

Lord Kirkwood of Kirkhope | 767 cc1325-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Drake. The House owes her a debt be...

Baroness Massey of Darwen | 767 cc1326-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will say a few words about kinship care. I remember the Minister speaking twice on th...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 767 c1327 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if I were the Minister, I would grasp with alacrity the olive branch—or is it fig leaf?...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 767 cc1327-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I want to speak extremely briefly because the speech I might have made has already been...

Lord Freud | 767 c1328 (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords for some very good speeches. To pick up the point made by the noble Lord, Lor...

Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 767 c1328 (Link to this contribution)

Does that mean that the Minister will give satisfaction to us before Report?

Lord Freud | 767 c1328 (Link to this contribution)

No, it means that I am not in a position to provide any satisfaction and, by definition, that pos...

Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 767 c1328 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am sorry to interrupt the Minister, but may I ask him about the difference between th...

Lord Freud | 767 cc1329-1330 (Link to this contribution)

That is the point of these amendments, which I am in the process of dealing with, so I will provi...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 767 c1330 (Link to this contribution)

At Second Reading, when the Minister talked about the exemptions that the Government have made cl...

Lord Freud | 767 c1330 (Link to this contribution)

If I misspoke at Second Reading, I apologise to the House. I was saying that they were a similarl...

Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 767 c1330 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, the Minister made much of the financial probity argument and said that tax credit expen...

Lord Freud | 767 c1330 (Link to this contribution)

I think the facts that the noble Baroness is comparing are somewhat spurious. Working age IS was ...

Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 767 c1330 (Link to this contribution)

Would the Minister like also to give us the figures for the number of self-employed people who ha...

Lord Freud | 767 c1331 (Link to this contribution)

Of course, one of the most interesting things about the way tax credit has moved is that people w...

Baroness Sherlock | 767 c1331 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I wonder whether the Minister can help me. When I asked what assessment the Government ...

Lord Freud | 767 c1331 (Link to this contribution)

It is actually extraordinarily hard to draw up a system. Those choices are different for differen...

Baroness Sherlock | 767 c1331 (Link to this contribution)

Has the Minister responded to the question about the impact assessment? I am sorry, which page is...

Lord Freud | 767 c1331 (Link to this contribution)

Again, all I can say is that the impact assessment looks at all the impacts. The costs and saving...

Baroness Drake | 767 c1331 (Link to this contribution)

Perhaps I may say this to the Minister. That is why I was looking back at the reasoning for this ...

Lord Freud | 767 c1332 (Link to this contribution)

Clearly there is a difference between the voluntary and involuntary taking on of children, whethe...

Earl of Listowel | 767 cc1332-3 (Link to this contribution)

First, I thank the Minister for his response, in which he said clearly that he is listening to th...

Lord Freud | 767 c1333 (Link to this contribution)

I know that the noble Earl is very concerned in this area of the care leaver and I understand exa...

Baroness Armstrong of Hill Top | 767 c1333 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I understand where the noble Earl, Lord Listowel, is coming from and, indeed, I talked ...

Lord Freud | 767 c1333 (Link to this contribution)

My understanding is that when we do these assessments we look at all of these aspects. But I have...

Bishop of Portsmouth | 767 cc1333-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am sure we are grateful for the very thoughtful contributions made in Committee and f...

Baroness Manzoor | 767 c1334 (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Baroness Manzoor

2: Clause 11, page 13, line 12, at end insert “, or

“...

Baroness Manzoor | 767 cc1334-6 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 2, I shall speak to Amendments 4, 7 and 12 in my name. As we have h...

Earl of Listowel | 767 cc1336-7 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, my name is attached to Amendments 4 and 12. It is a privilege to follow the eloquent no...

Bishop of Portsmouth | 767 cc1337-8 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I highlight two particularly vulnerable groups in my Amendments 5, 6, 13 and 14, groups...

Baroness Sherlock | 767 cc1338-1342 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments 15, 18 and 20, which are in my name and that of my noble fr...

Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 767 cc1342-4 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think the Minister must by now be feeling pretty miserable at the wretched nature of ...

Lord Lawson of Blaby | 767 c1344 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I had not intended to take part in this debate but it seems to me, listening to the nob...

Baroness Lister of Burtersett | 767 cc1344-5 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hate to intervene, but I point out that the evidence to which my noble friend referre...

Baroness Stroud | 767 c1345 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thought the House might just like an issue to be clarified. I have the document with ...

Baroness Hollis of Heigham | 767 c1345 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hesitate to challenge the noble Baroness, but if she looks on pages 19 and following ...

Baroness Stroud | 767 c1345 (Link to this contribution)

I can clarify that again but it is here, quite clearly. Perhaps we can discuss this later.

Earl of Listowel | 767 c1345 (Link to this contribution)

Can the noble Baroness say which page she is referring to?

Lord Freud | 767 cc1346-8 (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords again for another interesting debate, to which I have listened very attentive...

Baroness Sherlock | 767 c1348 (Link to this contribution)

Just to clarify, I was talking in this case about the exemption for multiple births, although it ...

Lord Freud | 767 c1348 (Link to this contribution)

I am trying to think of another example because, as the noble Baroness knows, we are trying to in...

Earl of Listowel | 767 c1348 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for his responses. I am reminded by what he said of the i...

Lord Lawson of Blaby | 767 c1349 (Link to this contribution)

Is the noble Earl, whom I greatly respect, aware that Professor Deaton received earlier this year...

Earl of Listowel | 767 c1349 (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord for drawing that to my attention and I shall make it my business to read t...

Lord Freud | 767 c1349 (Link to this contribution)

Taking the noble Earl’s points in order, we need to have good strategies for care leavers. Clearl...

Baroness Sherlock | 767 cc1349-1350 (Link to this contribution)

When the Minister does that, will he look at the study circulated to most noble Lords which speci...

Lord Freud | 767 c1350 (Link to this contribution)

We can cut through debating this by getting the facts, which I shall get to noble Lords.

Baroness Manzoor | 767 c1350 (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this has been a fascinating and passionate debate and I thank noble Lords who have take...

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