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Enterprise Bill [HL]

Debate on bills and Committee proceeding on Wednesday, 28 October 2015, in the House of Lords.
Lords committee stage second day. Clause 4, amendment considered. Clauses 5-13 and Schedule 2, agreed to. Clause 14 amendments under consideration.

About these Parliamentary proceedings

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765 cc195-252GC 

Session

2015-16

Legislative stage

Committee stage

Procedure

New clauses

Chamber / Committee

House of Lords Grand Committee
Enterprise Bill (HL) 2015-16
Wednesday, 16 September 2015
Bills
House of Lords
Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee ninth report.
Wednesday, 21 October 2015
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2015-0881
Monday, 16 November 2015
Deposited papers
House of Lords

Proceeding contributions

Lord Mendelsohn | 765 c195GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Mendelsohn

16: Clause 4, page 4, line 27, at end insert—

“( ) A c...

Lord Mendelsohn | 765 cc195-6GC (Link to this contribution)

In moving this amendment, I will also speak to Amendment 33. I will also express support for Amen...


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Lord Stoneham of Droxford | 765 c196GC (Link to this contribution)

I do not think there is much more to say than was said by the noble Lord, Lord Mendelsohn, in int...

Viscount Eccles | 765 c197GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, if there are very few complaints, I suppose that everything is operating well in market...

Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 765 c197GC (Link to this contribution)

Will the Minister also take account of the fact that one of the big problem areas in relation to ...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 765 cc197-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords for their amendments and welcome my noble friend Lord Eccles to our...

Lord Mendelsohn | 765 cc198-9GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for those comments and will just make a few points in reply. It is a limited...

Lord Mendelsohn | 765 c199GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Mendelsohn

20: Clause 5, page 5, line 35, at end insert—

“( ) Whe...

Lord Mendelsohn | 765 cc199-201GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, in moving Amendment 20, I will speak to Amendments 21 and 22 and address some of the is...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 765 cc200-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I have some sympathy with this amendment. It offers the possibility of speeding up the ...

Lord Stoneham of Droxford | 765 c202GC (Link to this contribution)

I, too, lend my support to this series of amendments. I have a particular interest in Amendments ...

Viscount Eccles | 765 cc202-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, briefly, Amendment 31 seems to introduce a new dimension to the responsibilities of the...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 765 cc203-4GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords for their comments. I emphasise that the Government consider that a punitive ...

Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 765 cc204-5GC (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister sits down, could she perhaps explain something to me? I understand that the c...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 765 c205GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to the noble Lord for his intervention and the opportunity to say that the commissi...

Lord Mendelsohn | 765 cc205-6GC (Link to this contribution)

I was disappointed by some of the Minister’s comments at the very end, because arguments were set...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 765 c206GC (Link to this contribution)

I will certainly look at the point that the noble Lord makes about avoidance contracts, as it wer...

Lord Mendelsohn | 765 c207GC (Link to this contribution)

The point that you can include things is the point that comes before, and the point that where yo...

Lord Stoneham of Droxford | 765 c207GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stoneham of Droxford

25: Clause 6, page 6, line 12, leave out “may” and...

Lord Stoneham of Droxford | 765 cc207-8GC (Link to this contribution)

I shall also speak to Amendment 26. Amendment 25 is another amendment on the same theme that we h...

Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 765 c208GC (Link to this contribution)

This group of amendments is significant, in so far as it is another indication of the change of m...

Lord Mendelsohn | 765 cc208-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I add our support for the first of the measures. I thank the noble Lord, Lord Stoneham,...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 765 c209GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I just want to say a word about Amendment 30, to which the noble Lord, Lord Mendelsohn,...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 765 cc209-210GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords for their comments and the noble Lord, Lord O’Neill, for his hu...

Lord Stoneham of Droxford | 765 c210GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lords, Lord Mendelsohn and Lord O’Neill, for their support. The noble Lord, Lor...

Lord Aberdare | 765 cc211-2GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Aberdare (CB)

39: After Clause 12, insert the following new Clause—

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Lord Aberdare | 765 cc212-4GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I listened with great interest to the debates in Committee on Monday and was very struc...

Viscount Eccles | 765 c214GC (Link to this contribution)

Is the noble Lord’s definition of retention monies any monies that are retained after a completio...

Lord Aberdare | 765 c214GC (Link to this contribution)

That is indeed the most objectionable part: on practical completion of the project, a substantial...

Viscount Eccles | 765 c214GC (Link to this contribution)

There could be an interesting distinction between practical completion and the issue of a complet...

Lord Aberdare | 765 c214GC (Link to this contribution)

Another issue, beyond what the noble Viscount has said, is that very often there needs to be some...

Lord O'Neill of Clackmannan | 765 cc214-6GC (Link to this contribution)

I support the noble Lord, Lord Aberdare. As I mentioned at Second Reading, I have an interest in ...

Lord Cope of Berkeley | 765 cc216-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too am sympathetic to the idea of a review of this subject. I do not go along entirel...

Earl of Kinnoull | 765 cc217-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I too support the amendment in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Aberdare. I should decl...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 765 c218GC (Link to this contribution)

I have a lot of sympathy with the amendment but, unlike my noble friend Lord Cope or the noble Lo...

Lord Stoneham of Droxford | 765 cc218-9GC (Link to this contribution)

I need to declare my interest as chair of Housing & Care 21. We built 1,000 homes last year. We h...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 765 cc219-220GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I should declare an interest as my wife is a partner in a firm of solicitors and her ex...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 765 c220GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am extremely grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Aberdare, for his Amendment 39 and for ...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 765 cc220-1GC (Link to this contribution)

I was delighted that the noble Earl, Lord Kinnoull, could bring his own practical experience of t...

Lord Aberdare | 765 c221GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am extremely grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken in this debate. I have been ...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 765 c221GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

44: After Clause 12, insert the following new Cl...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 765 cc221-3GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, we seem to have reached the point at the end of the first part of the Bill where many o...

Lord Deben | 765 c223GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I hope that my noble friend the Minister will take this point seriously. First, the fig...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 765 cc223-4GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords for this amendment and, indeed, for the whole series of amendments on the Sma...

Lord Mendelsohn | 765 c224GC (Link to this contribution)

Before the Minister sits down, can I clarify that the amendment addresses none of the points that...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 765 c225GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord. Indeed, you are looking at the overall millions owing rather than the ind...

Lord Mendelsohn | 765 c225GC (Link to this contribution)

Yes, certainly. For late payments, fines can be attendant to it. They tend not to be incurred, la...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 765 c225GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, there might be merit in further discussion on the finer points of this. The point I wan...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 765 c225GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Lord, Lord Deben, for intervening in this debate. For his information, the figu...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 765 c225GC (Link to this contribution)

Just to clarify, the payment regulations we are bringing in are statutory requirements to share i...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 765 cc225-6GC (Link to this contribution)

I was not trying to be antagonistic at all on this—I was simply trying to clarify this point. The...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 765 c226GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

48A: Clause 13, page 10, line 32, at end insert—...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 765 cc226-9GC (Link to this contribution)

We now move to the next stage in the Bill—regulatory measures—which is progress of sorts. We had ...

Earl of Kinnoull | 765 cc229-230GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak to Amendment 49CA. I declare my interests as set out in the register, e...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 765 cc230-2GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords for their amendments in this group. I am grateful for the noble Lord, Lord St...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 765 c232GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords for their contributions. On the point raised by the noble Earl, Lord Kinnoull...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 765 c233GC (Link to this contribution)

There is an excellent report by the Regulatory Policy Committee with which the noble Lord may be ...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 765 c233GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, that is the point: £1.6 billion is excluded from the Government’s target because it rel...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 765 c233GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

48C: Clause 13, page 10, line 40, after “State” ...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 765 cc233-5GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I am having a busy day. Again, this is a rewind in glorious technicolour, because we sp...

Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 765 cc235-6GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, having been given the lead-in, I will rise to speak at this point, and I do so very muc...

Lord Low of Dalston | 765 c236GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I will speak very briefly to support the exclusion of the Equality and Human Rights Com...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 765 cc236-8GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords for their amendments and their constructive contribution to the Bil...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 765 c238GC (Link to this contribution)

The Minister might like to look at the statutory objectives laid down in the Charities Act on the...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 765 cc238-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My noble friend, as always, makes a good point. We will certainly look at what is already happeni...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 765 c239GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the Minister for that full and comprehensive response, but I am afraid the answer to her ...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 765 c239GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

48D: Clause 13, page 11, line 20, at end insert—...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 765 cc239-240GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this group of amendments focuses on strengthening the work and role of the Regulatory P...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 765 cc240-2GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I thank noble Lords for their amendments. I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Stevens...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 765 c241GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank the noble Baroness for that very full response. These were of course probing amendments, ...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 765 c241GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara

48G: Clause 14, page 11, line 42, at end insert—...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 765 c243GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I do not think that these amendments will take up too much time. In moving Amendment 48...

Earl of Kinnoull | 765 c243GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I rise to speak to my Amendment 49ZA. Earlier today we heard a lot of the arguments exp...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 765 cc244-5GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank noble Lords for these amendments and agree with the noble Earl, Lord Kinnoull, about the ...

Lord Curry of Kirkharle | 765 c245GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I just add one comment on this, prompted by the comments of the noble Earl, Lord Kinnou...

Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 765 c245GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I think that this session has been one of conciliation and support. I do not think ther...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 765 c245GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts

49: Clause 14, page 12, line 3, at end insert...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 765 cc245-7GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, this is a probing amendment directed at the same clause as Amendments 48H and 48G from ...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 765 c247GC (Link to this contribution)

I thank my noble friend for tabling this amendment, which seeks to include in the Bill a specific...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 765 c247GC (Link to this contribution)

I am grateful to my noble friend for that full response. One of the questions is, of course, that...

Lord Mendelsohn | 765 cc247-8GC (Link to this contribution)

Moved by

Lord Mendelsohn

49B: After Clause 14, insert the following new Clause—

Lord Mendelsohn | 765 cc248-9GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I should declare at the start of these amendments that I am regulated by the FCA, so th...

Lord Hodgson of Astley Abbotts | 765 c249GC (Link to this contribution)

I cannot resist, although I know that the Committee is like a horse heading for the stable, there...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 765 cc249-250GC (Link to this contribution)

My Lords, I share the sentiment behind Amendment 49B to ensure that regulators have regard to the...

Lord Mendelsohn | 765 c250GC (Link to this contribution)

I did not quote the noble Baroness on this one, I am saving that for later and some significant q...

Baroness Neville-Rolfe | 765 cc250-1GC (Link to this contribution)

The review is obviously very open. I was trying to explain that if you do a review that engages o...

Lord Mendelsohn | 765 c251GC (Link to this contribution)

I do not want to labour the point, but especially in relation to estate agents, the difference is...

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